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SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:13 AM

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Mike Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan were so cute together in the early hours of their administration, huddled in an office on the night before the 2009 draft as they schemed and conned their way into Mark Sanchez's life.

They were already working Tannenbaum's ex-friend Eric Mangini, coach of the Browns, persuading him to give up the fifth pick and the right to select the New York Jets' franchise player-to-be, the latest golden boy out of Southern Cal. Mangini wanted a restricted free agent named Abe Elam in the deal, right after the Jets had matched the Browns' $1.5 million offer to the safety, and an obscure league rule required Elam to sign a waiver before he could be shipped to Cleveland.

"Why would he ever sign this piece of paper?" Tannenbaum thought to himself before he put Elam on the phone with the best used-car salesman on the lot.

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As Ryan somehow sold this lemon to Elam, Tannenbaum looked on in wonderment. He'd hired the right coach after all, the right guy to replace the duped Mangini, and a day later they would hire the right quarterback, too.

The same quarterback they're stuck with now.

Nearly four years later, Tannenbaum and Ryan don't look so smart, and Sanchez doesn't look like anyone's idea of a top-five pick. When Ryan announced Wednesday that Sanchez had regained the job he'd surrendered to Greg McElroy in the third quarter of the Arizona game, the coach neglected to mention the Jets really had no choice.

In March, as a means of apologizing for their rebuffed courtship of Peyton Manning, the team turned Sanchez's nonguaranteed $6 million wage in 2013 into a guaranteed $8.25 million wage as part of a three-year contract extension. Although Ryan swore that money had "absolutely zero" effect on the decision to return Sanchez to the first string, his is no longer a credible voice.

Why? Here's a quick review on how the Tannenbaum/Ryan Jets have mismanaged the most important position in the sport:

Sanchez finishes a poor 2011 season marked by a feud with Santonio Holmes, inspiring his bosses to (sort of) recruit Manning, who wants absolutely no part of them. The Jets throw cash at the wounded Sanchez, and just when the quarterback is in the final stages of recovery, they throw Tim Tebow at him, too.

The Tannenbaum/Ryan Jets hand off Sanchez and Tebow to a new offensive coordinator, Tony Sparano, who has no idea what to do with them. With Sanchez on the verge of fumbling and bumbling his way to the bench, Ryan suits up Tebow as his only alternative Thanksgiving night despite the fact the backup has two fractured ribs. Ten days later, with Tebow inactive and Ryan almost ready to admit his egregious error in dressing him against the Patriots, Ryan pulls Sanchez for a seventh-round pick, McElroy, who small-balls the Jets to an unsightly 7-6 victory over Arizona that smells very much like a defeat.

And on the rocky road from two consecutive AFC title games to Wednesday's low drama in Florham Park, a multiple-choice test at quarterback with three wrong answers, the Tannenbaum/Ryan Jets rotate so many receivers in and out of Sanchez's life that the starter can't keep track. They leave him with no playmakers in a playmakers league and leave him to answer a question about the lack of skill-position talent on the Tannenbaum/Ryan Jets this way:

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"I can't go back and change anything or do anything about any of that."

That would be Sanchez's way of saying he wishes he could.

He's relieved to get his job back, even if Jets fans weren't exactly calling for four more years. He's also relieved the next two games are on the road, away from a crowd that wasn't chanting for McElroy (or for Tebow before him) as much as it was chanting for anyone not wearing jersey No. 6.

Sanchez actually called Sunday's temporary firing "probably the worst and best experience of my life" before explaining he meant "it could be" a valuable experience if it makes him a better, more accountable quarterback, or one who stops giving the other team the ball.

Just as Ryan spent Monday and Tuesday soliciting a wide range of opinions on Sanchez versus McElroy versus an injured Tebow, Sanchez sought the counsel of his former backup, the nonthreat that was Mark Brunell, who told him the story of his young kids once joining in a crowd chant for Dad's replacement. Funny stuff, at least until Sanchez walked into the quarterbacks' room and nervously waited for Rex's official verdict.

Predictably enough, Ryan stayed with his guy. The money guy. "And now it's my job to go make him right," Sanchez said.

He's lucky McElroy -- not Tebow -- beat the Cardinals, because a choice between a healthy, fire-breathing, 1-0 Tebow gearing up for his Jacksonville homecoming and a 4-7 Sanchez and his loserville body language would have given Rex a no-ring circus to end them all.

Only the coach caught a break as clear as the fractures in Tebow's ribs. McElroy did a fine job in relief, but he lacks size and presence and difference-making athleticism. In the end, he was a disposable part that stood no chance against Sanchez's salary in 2013.

"I wanted to be thorough with the decision," Ryan said. "I wanted to make sure that it wasn't just a flying-off-the-handle move or just like something you would do haphazardly."

Not that anyone could imagine Ryan ever making a flying-off-the-handle, haphazard move.

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Once practice was complete, McElroy said he accepted his return to the third-string bin (Ryan disclosed Tebow would be No. 2 if his ribs allowed), and Tebow said his health was improving, and that he was inspired by his phone call to an upstate high school student, Matt Hardy, injured in a two-car crash that took the lives of his friend and girlfriend.

Hardy had asked Tebow to pray during the call, an experience the quarterback called "better than every touchdown I'll ever score."

Yes, Tebow is good people. That's why time around his locker is usually spent wishing he could throw a football a lot better than he can.

Truth is, the Jets don't have any quarterbacks who frighten defensive coordinators, other than Mike Pettine. Larry Fitzgerald (God bless him) said as much as he left the ballpark Sunday, undoubtedly still mesmerized by Ryan Lindley's impersonation of a pro. In a scene described by Arizona Republic columnist Dan Bickley, a MetLife Stadium employee shouted at the Arizona receiver that he should play for the Jets.

"Who's going to throw the ball to me here?" Fitzgerald asked the man, a question that left both of them laughing.

But the joke is on the Jets, for the sake of old times. Mike Tannenbaum hired the wrong quarterbacks, and Rex Ryan failed to develop them.

So they're stuck with a regressing Sanchez and his guaranteed cash, a deal they never bargained for on the eve of the 2009 draft.

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