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azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) jets and giants players hang out all the time
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) i'm sure they dont care lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:24 AM) well bills won, we need a win this week to stay inn 2nd
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) at least miami is pretty much done but we have to compete with NE and buffalo still
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) as santana said, it's probably all in fun. most of these guys in the NFL are friends with players form other teams. I'm sure some jets/giants players are friends with each other
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:31 PM) Vick = $$
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Landry - No Hometown Discount

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:24 PM


LaRon Landry says NY Jets won’t be getting a hometown discount when hard-hitting safety hits open market

LaRon Landry has breathed life into the Jets defense this season one teeth-rattling hit at a time, but the team's enforcer may not be a part of their future. The hard-hitting safety told the Daily News that he won't give the Jets a hometown discount when he hits the open market after the season.

"What do you mean (by) a discount?" Landry said. "Take less over what? From where?… If that (were) the case, I would have taken a hometown discount and stayed with the Redskins.… I love the game. I love this organization. I love them for giving me an opportunity. But at the end of the day, I'm going to sit down with my agent and my family and make the best business decision."

"I get along (with the coaches)," Landry added. "But at the end of the day, man, I got to think about my future and longevity too."

Translation: The Jets are going to have to pony up some serious cash in free agency after they inked Landry to a team-friendly one-year contract with built-in injury protections last offseason.

Half of Landry's 1-year, $3.5 million max value contract was tied up in weekly roster payouts to protect the team in case he suffered an injury. Landry played in only 17 games in the previous two seasons due to a heel/Achilles injury.

However, Landry now has the leverage due to his elevated play and a clause in his contract that prevents the Jets from applying the franchise or transition tag in 2013. The Jets almost certainly would have franchised Landry, who has been one of the team's most indispensable players.

It's likely that the Jets will have to pay Landry, who provided a marked upgrade at the position this season, anywhere from $7-10 million per season based on the range for the league's five highest paid safeties.

Do the Jets need the 28-year-old Landry back in 2013?

"It would be nice," Rex Ryan told the News, breaking into a laugh. "There will be plenty of time to look at that. But obviously he's a guy that has had a huge impact for us."

Landry's resurgence as a versatile defensive piece has bolstered the defense in myriad ways. He's the Jets' second-leading tackler (102) and has a team-high four forced fumbles. He's been an effective blitzer. "We use him as a missile," linebacker Bart Scott said.

Landry's coverage skills have helped the Jets remain a Top 5 pass defense.

"I went home a couple times, talking to my family and said, 'Bro, I feel like I'm in my rookie year again. Fast as sh--,'" Landry said. "It's been that way building this season."

Thanks to a manic rehab schedule that includes an additional two hours of treatments with personal trainers five days a week at home or at the team hotel on gameday mornings, Landry says his health is no longer an issue. "Healthwise," he said, "I'm back."

Landry's most invaluable intangible, of course, is intimidation. He doesn't talk trash to opponents. He talks to himself. A lot.

"I might say something to myself… and they hear me," Landry said. "When I clap, and they say I'm clapping because I hurt somebody, that's really to myself. That's just positive thinking to myself. It's nothing like, 'Okay I'm hurting this guy.' It's, 'I hit this motherf----r, man.'"

Safety Yeremiah Bell has seen Landry's penchant for mumbling to himself up close.

"I've played with trash talkers, but nobody that's that intense," Bell said. "I love playing with him because he makes it so easy. He always makes it fun. It's almost like when he gets in a zone, he's in his zone. Sometimes he's the only one in there and he's going crazy. Everybody knows. He'll talk to himself and then come back and be like, 'What's the play?'"

It didn't take long for Landry's teammates to realize that his bone-crunching hits had a tangible cause and effect. Antonio Cromartie first noticed it in the second preseason game when Landry buried his shoulder into Victor Cruz's chest on a 21-yard reception.

"Victor Cruz didn't want to come back across the middle anymore," Antonio Cromartie said with a smile. "When you get hit that damn hard, it hurts. It makes you think twice about going across the middle. That's the presence he brings."

Bell has seen countless similar examples through the first 13 games.

"If he hits somebody and that guy's got to come over the middle the next time, believe me, he's thinking about LaRon," Bell said. "He's thinking, 'Where is this guy?' He can't locate him, but in the back of his head, he's thinking, 'I know he's coming.'"

Despite some of the medical risks, Ryan admitted that he realized "almost immediately" that the Jets made the right move to bring him aboard.

"Some of his hits in that Buffalo game (in the season opener), it's like, 'Wow! Oh my goodness!'" Ryan said. "I think it was obvious then that this is really going to work out."

Landry's passion has been contagious.

"The easiest thing in this league is to get paid and just sit on the sideline," Bell said. "Guys do it a lot. It always goes back to what kind of person are you? Are you a guy who really wants to play the game? Or are you a guy who really wants to get paid? With LaRon, you can tell that he loves playing."

The Jets knew in March that Landry might be too pricey to keep beyond the 2012 season if he returned to form. It's a reality that they'll have to confront as they try to re-stock the roster with more difference makers.

Landry isn't overly concerned. His believes that his future remains bright… no matter where it is.

"I'm looking forward to the next best thing," Landry said. "When it's all said and done, I just want to drop down to my knees, thank God for protecting me this whole season and everything else will handle itself."


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:12 PM

Both safeties have been consistently solid performers and consistently good tacklers on defence this season, which makes it doubly concerning that neither is locked down beyond this season. Obviously given his age Landry should be prioritised over Bell, but he won't come cheap and we've got a lot of areas where dollars need to be spent.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

I would like to bring Landry back, but it depends on the price. Hes fast and a big hitter, but he has flaws to his game and isn't elite.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

I'm sorry to say but Landry will not be on the team next year. Not with wanting 7-10 million per year with so much money being tied up in Sanchez, needing to re-sign Mangold, Keller & of course Revis is going to want his deal redone as well. We also need to find another backup QB to be the 3rd stringer if we dont make a mistake by allowing McElroy to be traded away.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:31 PM

View PostChaos, on 14 December 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

One of the few bright spots this year and we probably can't keep him because of the irresponsible way the jets have handled the salary cap of late. How in hell did Sanchez deserve a contract extension and pay raise after last year? Way too much bad money invested in Holmes, Scott, and others.

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