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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

With the embarrassment on National TV last night, it's obvious that this organization needs to do a lot of changes, it is very obvious that we don't have a starting QB, we don't have a good GM, we don't have a good OC, and we don't have a HC that knows how to do the job. Now I know with the history that this organization has had with Woody Johnson as the owner of the JETS that we have never had a veteran HC and gone the route of rookie HC's (Edwards, Mangini and Ryan) it is time for Woody Johnson to stop the cycle and change the direction of this organization.

First things first, fire Tannenbaum, there shouldn't be a second wasted on thinking otherwise
Second, fire Rex, his schtick has run thin, and he was too overwhelmed to be the HC of the NYJ, so we need to bring in a veteran HC, I'll get to that in a few.
Third, eat the $17 mil cap hit and release Sanchez, we can't keep him here in NY, he deserves to just go to Siberia or somewhere that noone has ever seen him play football
Fourth, get rid of that glorified FB, he was a failed PR stunt, so just go ahead and get him the hell out NY
Fifth, we need to send a message to the NYJ by boycotting the game on Sunday.

Ok so the second point I made was to Fire Rex, there are plenty of options out there for the JETS to go out and get guys that know what they are doing as a HC of an NFL team,
1) Cowher has always been out there, will he leave his comfy CBS gig to come back to an NFL sideline, that is yet to be determined, and he should be given full control if he is brought on board in order to make this team work, so we would get rid of the GM position all together...
2) Gruden, who would actually hold players accountable and wouldn't be afraid to get into someones face when they don't do their job, will he leave the MNF booth,that is yet to be determined, if he is brought in, consider Bill Polian as the GM, in order to rebuild this organization, like he did in Indy.
3) Holmgren, he has proven to do well in the NFL, he helped right the ship in Cleveland, so he has had recent experience with how to fix a franchise that is in the dumps, has proven he can't be a GM/HC at the same time so he needs a GM like Polian or someone similar to take that responsibility.
4) Arians, yes he was a stop gap in Indy as their HC was recovering from Cancer, but he has helped turn the Colts into a playoff contender, so he wouldn't be a rookie HC but he'd be my 4th option if the other 3 didn't decide to take the job if Rex gets the axe, has familiarity with Polian, so he would work well if we brought him in with Polian.

This team is at a crossroads, what they do this offseason will dictate the direction this organization heads for the next few years...something needs to happen...and it needs to happen as soon as this season ends in 2 weeks...

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:53 PM

View Postganggreen2003, on 18 December 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

[b]First things first, fire Tannenbaum, there shouldn't be a second wasted on thinking otherwise
Second, fire Rex, his schtick has run thin, and he was too overwhelmed to be the HC of the NYJ, so we need to bring in a veteran HC, I'll get to that in a few.
Third, eat the $17 mil cap hit and release Sanchez, we can't keep him here in NY, he deserves to just go to Siberia or somewhere that noone has ever seen him play football
Fourth, get rid of that glorified FB, he was a failed PR stunt, so just go ahead and get him the hell out NY
Fifth, we need to send a message to the NYJ by boycotting the game on Sunday.


1. Tanny will be gone. Needs to happen. Has to happen.
2. Rex isn't going anywhere. He's going to get a pass this season because he got the team to the playoffs his first 2 years. He has an injury excuse. I just don't see Woody eating his contract.
3. Nope. No team is going to do that. Jets are not going to eat $26,753,125 over the course of the next 4 years. Yes, the math is right. That is $26 MILLION over 4 years to cut him. Jets have themselves a crappy starter or an expensive back up next season. [ http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html ]
4. Agreed. He needs to be out.
5. Would love to see that happen. Or at least boo the hell out of them if you do attend.

Rex and Sanchez have an extra year. Sanchez doesn't deserve it. Fans are split on Rex. But I seriously doubt that those two won't be wearing green and white next season.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

View PostChaos, on 18 December 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

1. Tanny will be gone. Needs to happen. Has to happen.
2. Rex isn't going anywhere. He's going to get a pass this season because he got the team to the playoffs his first 2 years. He has an injury excuse. I just don't see Woody eating his contract.
3. Nope. No team is going to do that. Jets are not going to eat $26,753,125 over the course of the next 4 years. Yes, the math is right. That is $26 MILLION over 4 years to cut him. Jets have themselves a crappy starter or an expensive back up next season. [ http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html ]
4. Agreed. He needs to be out.
5. Would love to see that happen. Or at least boo the hell out of them if you do attend.

Rex and Sanchez have an extra year. Sanchez doesn't deserve it. Fans are split on Rex. But I seriously doubt that those two won't be wearing green and white next season.

Anyone who reads my posts knows I have been down on Sanchez forever. I think he is a classy professional and a good person but a terrible terrible QB. I don't hate him I just don't want him playing. Having said that, we can't unload him to any other team unless the other team is ceritifiable. So we will most likely keep him as a backup in order to take less of a cap hit. If McElroy can prove to be a decent QB (I think he can), then we really don't lose anything salary wise - just reverse the order of the depth chart and pray McElroy doesn't get hurt.

I agree Tanny has to be reassigned. let him handle the salary cap and business stuff but get a GM in. Once we get a GM leave it to him to decide whether to keep Ryan or not. I think Ryan has lots of faults and personally don't think he is rational where Sanchez was concerned. But I can also hear when people say he has had to deal with injuries, inept drafting, poor talent and still has them at 6-8 with the worst QB in the league. The new GM should be better at making that decision.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:58 PM

I have a feeling that rex is on a leash. Seems like tanny has more control over this team then anyone else even with coaching staff decisions. Tanny needs to be sent back to cap manager or let go.
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