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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:34 PM

With the embarrassment on National TV last night, it's obvious that this organization needs to do a lot of changes, it is very obvious that we don't have a starting QB, we don't have a good GM, we don't have a good OC, and we don't have a HC that knows how to do the job. Now I know with the history that this organization has had with Woody Johnson as the owner of the JETS that we have never had a veteran HC and gone the route of rookie HC's (Edwards, Mangini and Ryan) it is time for Woody Johnson to stop the cycle and change the direction of this organization.

First things first, fire Tannenbaum, there shouldn't be a second wasted on thinking otherwise
Second, fire Rex, his schtick has run thin, and he was too overwhelmed to be the HC of the NYJ, so we need to bring in a veteran HC, I'll get to that in a few.
Third, eat the $17 mil cap hit and release Sanchez, we can't keep him here in NY, he deserves to just go to Siberia or somewhere that noone has ever seen him play football
Fourth, get rid of that glorified FB, he was a failed PR stunt, so just go ahead and get him the hell out NY
Fifth, we need to send a message to the NYJ by boycotting the game on Sunday.

Ok so the second point I made was to Fire Rex, there are plenty of options out there for the JETS to go out and get guys that know what they are doing as a HC of an NFL team,
1) Cowher has always been out there, will he leave his comfy CBS gig to come back to an NFL sideline, that is yet to be determined, and he should be given full control if he is brought on board in order to make this team work, so we would get rid of the GM position all together...
2) Gruden, who would actually hold players accountable and wouldn't be afraid to get into someones face when they don't do their job, will he leave the MNF booth,that is yet to be determined, if he is brought in, consider Bill Polian as the GM, in order to rebuild this organization, like he did in Indy.
3) Holmgren, he has proven to do well in the NFL, he helped right the ship in Cleveland, so he has had recent experience with how to fix a franchise that is in the dumps, has proven he can't be a GM/HC at the same time so he needs a GM like Polian or someone similar to take that responsibility.
4) Arians, yes he was a stop gap in Indy as their HC was recovering from Cancer, but he has helped turn the Colts into a playoff contender, so he wouldn't be a rookie HC but he'd be my 4th option if the other 3 didn't decide to take the job if Rex gets the axe, has familiarity with Polian, so he would work well if we brought him in with Polian.

This team is at a crossroads, what they do this offseason will dictate the direction this organization heads for the next few years...something needs to happen...and it needs to happen as soon as this season ends in 2 weeks...

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:53 PM

View Postganggreen2003, on 18 December 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

[b]First things first, fire Tannenbaum, there shouldn't be a second wasted on thinking otherwise
Second, fire Rex, his schtick has run thin, and he was too overwhelmed to be the HC of the NYJ, so we need to bring in a veteran HC, I'll get to that in a few.
Third, eat the $17 mil cap hit and release Sanchez, we can't keep him here in NY, he deserves to just go to Siberia or somewhere that noone has ever seen him play football
Fourth, get rid of that glorified FB, he was a failed PR stunt, so just go ahead and get him the hell out NY
Fifth, we need to send a message to the NYJ by boycotting the game on Sunday.


1. Tanny will be gone. Needs to happen. Has to happen.
2. Rex isn't going anywhere. He's going to get a pass this season because he got the team to the playoffs his first 2 years. He has an injury excuse. I just don't see Woody eating his contract.
3. Nope. No team is going to do that. Jets are not going to eat $26,753,125 over the course of the next 4 years. Yes, the math is right. That is $26 MILLION over 4 years to cut him. Jets have themselves a crappy starter or an expensive back up next season. [ http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html ]
4. Agreed. He needs to be out.
5. Would love to see that happen. Or at least boo the hell out of them if you do attend.

Rex and Sanchez have an extra year. Sanchez doesn't deserve it. Fans are split on Rex. But I seriously doubt that those two won't be wearing green and white next season.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

View PostChaos, on 18 December 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

1. Tanny will be gone. Needs to happen. Has to happen.
2. Rex isn't going anywhere. He's going to get a pass this season because he got the team to the playoffs his first 2 years. He has an injury excuse. I just don't see Woody eating his contract.
3. Nope. No team is going to do that. Jets are not going to eat $26,753,125 over the course of the next 4 years. Yes, the math is right. That is $26 MILLION over 4 years to cut him. Jets have themselves a crappy starter or an expensive back up next season. [ http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html ]
4. Agreed. He needs to be out.
5. Would love to see that happen. Or at least boo the hell out of them if you do attend.

Rex and Sanchez have an extra year. Sanchez doesn't deserve it. Fans are split on Rex. But I seriously doubt that those two won't be wearing green and white next season.

Anyone who reads my posts knows I have been down on Sanchez forever. I think he is a classy professional and a good person but a terrible terrible QB. I don't hate him I just don't want him playing. Having said that, we can't unload him to any other team unless the other team is ceritifiable. So we will most likely keep him as a backup in order to take less of a cap hit. If McElroy can prove to be a decent QB (I think he can), then we really don't lose anything salary wise - just reverse the order of the depth chart and pray McElroy doesn't get hurt.

I agree Tanny has to be reassigned. let him handle the salary cap and business stuff but get a GM in. Once we get a GM leave it to him to decide whether to keep Ryan or not. I think Ryan has lots of faults and personally don't think he is rational where Sanchez was concerned. But I can also hear when people say he has had to deal with injuries, inept drafting, poor talent and still has them at 6-8 with the worst QB in the league. The new GM should be better at making that decision.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:58 PM

I have a feeling that rex is on a leash. Seems like tanny has more control over this team then anyone else even with coaching staff decisions. Tanny needs to be sent back to cap manager or let go.
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