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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:41 PM

So this season I've been gambling on games with my cousin who moved out to Vegas. He usually hits the casinos on Fridays so I give him my picks. I just compiled this email, I figure that some of you guys may have some thought or could just use a break from the Jets talk:

"I'm really trying to think my way through this week so I'm doing my research early. I'll probably end up sending you a couple of emails, but here's what I'm thinking so far:

12/22 8:30 ETAtlanta-3.5At Detroit50.5: Is this a f***ing joke? ATL just blew out the Giants and Detroit just got blown out by THE CARDINALS! Is this a typo? Did they mean to make it -13.5? Atlanta wins homefield advantage if they beat the Lions so they have something to play for, unless someone is hurt I really don't understand this line at all. ATL all the way.


12/23 1:00 ETAt Green Bay-13 Tennessee 46: Tennessee sucks but this line is a little scary. The Packers have to beat the Titans by 2 TDs to cover. They already clinched the North and would need to win out + have SF lose out to clinch the 2nd bye in the NFC. I just don't like the line.

12/23 1:00 ETAt Carolina-8.5Oakland 46: I was hoping this line would be lower, but Oakland is absolutely horrible while Carolina won 3 of it's last games. Oakland flying across the country is enough for me to bet the Carolina even if they need 2 scores to cover.

12/23 1:00 ETAt Miami-4.5Buffalo 42: I'm a big CJ Spiller fan and I absolutely hate Miami. I'm staying away from this game.

12/23 1:00 ETAt Pittsburgh-4Cincinnati 43: The Steelers need this to get into the playoffs. The Bengals need this to get into the playoffs. Division game. I can see it being decided by a late FG. I'm leaning towards the Bengals. This is one of those games that the line might shift come Friday night. So Bengals for now. I do think the overall is a little high. I can't see both teams scoring 3 tds on those defenses. Something to think about.

12/23 1:00 ET New England-14.5 At Jacksonville49 Jacksonville is terrible. NE just lost. NE coming off a loss against Chad Henne? I'm taking NE and I honestly think that they will hit 40. Can the Jaguars score 10? If so, that over looks pretty good.

12/23 1:00 ETIndianapolis-6.5At Kansas City 41.5 This looks too easy. I'm going to check to make sure Reggie Wayne isn't injured or something. Colts are feeling good and have a legit shot at getting the #6 spot. KC just got shut out by Oakland. OAKLAND. I'll take the Colts.


12/23 1:00 ETAt Dallas-3New Orleans 51.5 I already know how this is going to go. Cowboys have a shot at the division. They get pumped up after a big win against the Steelers and promptly shit the bed. Brees absolutely destroyed Tampa Bay. I'm going to google Dallas pass defense rankings but unless they're in the Top 5, which they aren't, I'm taking Brees. Dez Bryant looked like shit against the Steelers (that TD was fluff) so I don't know about the over although I can see this being a 35-27 game easily.

12/23 1:00 ETWashington-5.5At Philadelphia 44.5 It kinda feels like a wierd week where both the Redskins and the Cowboys might loose because Eli Manning is a lucky f***. That line looks a little too inviting. I'm staying away until I see RG3 doing some throwing in practice.

12/23 1:00 ETAt Tampa Bay-3St. Louis 43.51: Both these teams are disgusting in the sense that they can score 40 and give up 40 any week without much reason. I think that since neither has anything to play for, the Bucs will win because they have more weapons. That line basically means that it's a pick 'em so I'm going to go with the Bucs after i check where the Rams rank in run defense (because Doug Martin is about to win me my FF league).

2/23 4:25 ETNY Giants-2.5At Baltimore 47.5 Flacco sucks. Ravens defense is a shell. Torry Smith is concussed and will most likely not play. Bradshaw is supposedly coming back. The Ravens don't have any deep threats to expose the Giants f*****y *beep* CBs so I think that Eli will win this.

12/23 1:00 ETAt Houston-7.5Minnesota44 I really like Minny. Maybe too much. I think that the Texans are wayyyyyy overrated. To me, they only won one quality game-against the Bears, and the Bears are about to fire their HC if they miss the playoffs. I don't think Houston can keep AD under 150 but the problem is, Ponder can't throw for over 150. I really like Minny so I'm going to pass on this.

12/23 4:05 ETAt Denver-13.5 Cleveland 44.5 This is the same think as the Pats game. They could've made the spread 4 points higher. Denver can shut the run down and Peyton is going to pick this defense apart.

12/23 4:25 ETChicago-5.5At Arizona 36.5 This is a scary ass game. AZ all of a sudden scored 35 points. Urlacher is fighting with fans and Lovie Smith is on the hot seat. Jay Cutler is still Jay Cutler. With that said, I can't put $$$ on AZ. Although this game does have 2 defenses that can score, so I think that overall is a little low. We're basically winning if its a 20-17 or 24-13 game, right? Definitely a possibility.

12/23 8:30 ETSan Francisco-1At Seattle39 Seattle went for a fake punt up 35 points. Horrible karma. I'm going to go with the 9ers.

12/23 1:00 ETAt NY Jets-2.5San Diego 40.5 Man I hate to bet on the Jets but I feel good about this game. Since no one wants to watch either of these games, this got flexed to 1PM in NY. Which means that SD will have to fly cross country and play the early game. Very tough even when you're not being coached by Norv Turner. Jets defense has really been locking down against the pass (5th best) and the Chargers just lost Matthews for the year. The Jets got a couple of guys (Greene, Keller, McElroy, DeVito, Scott, Landry & Bell) who are basically auditioning for contracts. I can see the Jets winning this by 5 points and Rex Ryan declaring that the Jets are world championship contenders in 2013. "
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:52 AM

As far as the Jets game basically if you feel the Jets will win I say go with your gut. Im not going into the other games because you are the one gambling so you have probably done enough research to make logical choices.

I myself am 50/50 on this game because of how Rivers and Gates have lit teams up in the past when Rivers wasn't pressured. If the Jets can run on the Chargers and Mcelroy is at least as competent as a solid game manager as I think he is the only issue I see as a problem is the lack of Jets front 7 pressure on opposing o-lines....even bad ones.We just aren't consistent with the pass rush and pressure. I think we should blitz a lot.

So yes I think the Jets have a great shot at winning this game as long as Rivers is pressured. If not he might lite the Jets up even with a crappy receiving core that he has....other than Gates. Gates is getting old and slowing down though.

Ive seen a lot of the Chargers since I usually keep the 8 games at once screen up on Sunday Ticket and the Chargers are have as many problems as the Jets do with the exception of rivers. I dont think he is done yet....just a bad cast around him.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:23 PM

4 Team Parlay # 1 ($20):
ATL (-3.5) over DET
NYG (-2.5) over BALT
DENVER (-13) over CLE
INDY (-7) over KC

4 Team Parlay # 2 ($20):
NYG (-2.5) over BALT
DENVER (-13) over CLE
CHI (-5.5) over AZ
NE (-14.5) over JAX

4 Team Parlay # 3 ($15):

WASH (-6.5) over PHILLY
CAR (-8.5) over OAK
NE (-14.5) over JAX
NYJ (-2.5) over SD

6 Team Parlay #3 ($10):

ATL (-3.5) over DET
NYG (-2.5) over BALT
INDY (-7) over KC
HOU (-8) over MINN
CHI (-5.5) over AZ
NYJ vs SD UNDER 38.5

10 Team Parlay ($5):
WASH (-6.5) over PHILLY
NE (-14.5) over JAX
NYJ (-2.5) over SD
NYJ vs SD UNDER 38.5
HOU (-8) over MINN
CHI (-5.5) over AZ
DENVER (-13) over CLE
CINCY (+3.5) over PIT
9ers (-1) over SEA
SAINTS (+3) over DAL


Total $70
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