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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Triple Poll Thread

Poll: Triple Poll Thread (10 member(s) have cast votes)

Sanchez: mishandled or just bad?

  1. mishandled (6 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

  2. justbad (4 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

Tebow: underused or useless?

  1. underused (4 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  2. useless (6 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

Ryan:

  1. Top 16 coach (6 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

  2. Bottom 16 coach (4 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:19 AM

I would have added "which OC was worse?" to the poll and "is it more the OCs or the players?" too, but you can only put in three questions max.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


Bottomfeeder Tracker: 6-17 vs teams with a winning record.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:34 AM

1-Sanchez is garbage, the Jets failed him with not providing him with good weapons but it doesn't matter at this point because he just plain sucks. Makes way too many mistakes.

2-Tim Tebow is misused, but he is also a bad QB. The Jets could have used him in better ways but Sparano has no creativity on offense.

3-I think Ryan is closer to a top 16 coach than a bottom 16 coach. I do not blame him for the team having no talent and injuries. Give him a decent offense with a QB who doesn't make the same dumb mistakes constantly and he will get this team to the playoffs. I feel like we might be the least talented team in football, we have outperformed teams with more talent.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:40 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 24 December 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

3-I think Ryan is closer to a top 16 coach than a bottom 16 coach. I do not blame him for the team having no talent and injuries. Give him a decent offense with a QB who doesn't make the same dumb mistakes constantly and he will get this team to the playoffs. I feel like we might be the least talented team in football, we have outperformed teams with more talent.


Who did we outperform?
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:13 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 24 December 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

Who did we outperform?


The Lions are 4-11 and have much more talent than we have. The Chiefs are 2-13 and have more talent than we have. The Eagles are 4-11 with more talent than we have. The Panthers are 6-9 with more talent. The Cardinals at 5-10 have more talent than us, though they have a worse OL and QB. we are pretty much at the bottom in terms of team talent, especially with the injuries to some of our best players.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:37 PM

Mark has showed increasing signs of indecision/just plain bad decisions (esp. in the redzone) in his career. He got away with it in his first 2 seasons (recall that we had 4 miracle comebacks in his first season which could just as easily gone the other way) but it has caught up with him lately. The Revis holdout, lockout and key injuries this year plus lack of coach/receiver continuity did not help him but he could not overcome the adversity and 'rise above' as a good leader should do. After the first 2 promising years of Ryan's tenure the last 2 have been bizzare to put it mildly. I don't know where you begin to rectify the shortcomings of this team. For better or worse, you have to give Ryan and Sanchez one more year- if only b/c the other options seem non existent right about now.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

Sanchez has been more mishandled than bad in my eyes. The lack of continuity at receiver has done him no favour, but this year he's also had to deal with the poor quality at running back. His play has warranted the benching, while he also has the David Carr 'deer in headlights' syndrome about him now from having had any semblance of confidence drained from his body.
I'm with 0099 on Tebow - he's a bad QB, but at the same time an offensive threat who can make things happen with his legs. The fact his first complete series did not come until the Titans game says a lot, and I'd have prefered if he had the odd series, as opposed to the odd snap in games, because when we have gone to the Tebow package it has invariably led to confusion and sometimes a wasted timeout.
Regarding Rex, I voted bottom 16 as he's been clueless when it comes to getting this team out of the rut it finds itself in. It's acceptable to lose to good teams who have more talent, but the way we crashed against New England (at home), San Francisco, Seattle and Miami was unacceptable. The only real chance we had of knocking off a better team was away in New England, and even then the team shot themselves in the foot (for instance that night our STs let up a kickoff return TD). Houston were made to work for victory that Monday night game, but then it was more a case of the Jets keeping in touch than threatening to go ahead.

Thankfully there's only one more week of this sorry season to go. Then it will be interesting to find out which direction the owner decides to take the team in, and to see the personnel decisions that are made by whoever will be in charge of making them.
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