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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (Today, 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:36 AM

http://bleacherrepor...e-new-york-jets

I know this is a Bleacher Report article but here are the names that were mentioned (including re-signings):

Quarterback: Matt Moore
Running Back: Chris Ivory
Wide Receiver: Braylon Edwards
Tight End: Ed Dickson
Offensive Tackle: Austin Howard
Offensive Guard: Brandon Moore
Defensive Tackle: Mike DeVito
Outside Linebacker: Connor Barwin
Outside Linebacker: Manny Lawson
Safety: Yeremiah Bell
Kicker: Nick Folk
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:07 AM

I like the Matt Moore idea...great guy to hold the fort while the Jets hopefully find a long term solution
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 08 January 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

I like the Matt Moore idea...great guy to hold the fort while the Jets hopefully find a long term solution


No thanks on moore. h's terible. i'd rather save money and go with mcelroy.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 08 January 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

No thanks on moore. h's terible. i'd rather save money and go with mcelroy.


Considering McElroy looked like a deer in headlights against Chargers, I'd take Moore every day of the week over him. I'd much prefer a solid, experienced veteran who has shown he can do well when called upon than somebody who has yet to do that even if he perhaps hasn't had the opportunities to do so.

Moore's record as a starter with the Fins in 2011 was 6-6 (they had started the season 0-4); he may have started slowly but was pretty impressive down the stretch, finishing with 16 TDs to 9 INTs, four of those nine coming in games against the Jets. His previous starting experience with Carolina was decent too - 4-1 record from 5 starts in '09 taking them from 4-7 to 8-8 and he threw 8 TDs to 2 INTs, and it wasn't as if the Panthers were run heavy as he averaged 25 attempts a game.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 08 January 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

Considering McElroy looked like a deer in headlights against Chargers, I'd take Moore every day of the week over him. I'd much prefer a solid, experienced veteran who has shown he can do well when called upon than somebody who has yet to do that even if he perhaps hasn't had the opportunities to do so yet.

Moore's record as a starter with the Fins in 2011 was 6-6 (they had started the season 0-4); he may have started slowly but was pretty impressive down the stretch, finishing with 16 TDs to 9 INTs, four of those nine coming in games against the Jets. His previous starting experience with Carolina was decent too - 4-1 record from 5 starts in '09 taking them from 4-7 to 8-8 and he threw 8 TDs to 2 INTs, and it wasn't as if the Panthers were run heavy as he averaged 25 attempts a game.

Wow - I can't imagine why a kid who has virtually never played in the NFL should look like a veteran against a team that sacked him 11 times!!! If they don't give McElroy a shot then what is so bad about Moore? Do you think Sanchez can do the job? Do you want another season with him as the starter in our new attack offense where the QB puts the team on his shoulders. That thought makes me nauceous.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

I would love to get Connor Barwin, coming off of a 3 sack season but has 10+ sack ability.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

View Postchocomag, on 08 January 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Wow - I can't imagine why a kid who has virtually never played in the NFL should look like a veteran against a team that sacked him 11 times!!! If they don't give McElroy a shot then what is so bad about Moore? Do you think Sanchez can do the job? Do you want another season with him as the starter in our new attack offense where the QB puts the team on his shoulders. That thought makes me nauceous.


I'd be happy to bring in Matt Moore and let him have the chance to earn the starting job, that was my point. Obviously McElroy's inexperience didn't help him against San Diego; he probably should have been given his far shot far earlier in the season than the second half of the Arizona game. Chances in the NFL, especially for backup QBs, are few and far between though with just a 16 game regular season, and it's bad luck for McElroy that his time on the field has been so limited.
With Sanchez, it's likely he'll be on the team next season due to his contract, but as backup given this year showed explicitly that he hasn't panned out to be the QB we wanted him to be.
One thing's clear, I don't envisage our starting QB for next season to be a player currently on the roster.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:50 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 08 January 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

I would love to get Connor Barwin, coming off of a 3 sack season but has 10+ sack ability.


We drafted Wilk and Coples back to back. We're not signing a DE.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 08 January 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

We drafted Wilk and Coples back to back. We're not signing a DE.



Connor Barwin plays OLB/DE...
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:55 AM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 08 January 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

I'd be happy to bring in Matt Moore and let him have the chance to earn the starting job, that was my point. Obviously McElroy's inexperience didn't help him against San Diego; he probably should have been given his far shot far earlier in the season than the second half of the Arizona game. Chances in the NFL, especially for backup QBs, are few and far between though with just a 16 game regular season, and it's bad luck for McElroy that his time on the field has been so limited.
With Sanchez, it's likely he'll be on the team next season due to his contract, but as backup given this year showed explicitly that he hasn't panned out to be the QB we wanted him to be.
One thing's clear, I don't envisage our starting QB for next season to be a player currently on the roster.

Not as convinced as you are that McElroy isn't either the answer or a stopgap until we can rid ourselves of this cap problem and draft a QB that has some semblance of an offense to work with. But not convinced the other way either.

The only thing I am convinced about is that Sanchez is not the man now and the odds of him becoming the man do not warrant wasting another season in the vain hope of him getting there. So we either draft a QB in the third round, buy a cheap free agent or use McElroy. I think if we bolster the O-line McElroy might work out well. Remember - he is mobile, smart and doesn't throw picks. That wouldn't be a bad thing to at least start out with.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:10 PM

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:27 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 08 January 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

We drafted Wilk and Coples back to back. We're not signing a DE.


lolllll He's a 3-4 rush backer.

Barwin, Ed Dickson, Matt Moore all 3 are great ideas, IMO.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

View PostChaos, on 08 January 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

http://bleacherrepor...e-new-york-jets

I know this is a Bleacher Report article but here are the names that were mentioned (including re-signings):

Quarterback: Matt Moore
Running Back: Chris Ivory
Wide Receiver: Braylon Edwards
Tight End: Ed Dickson
Offensive Tackle: Austin Howard
Offensive Guard: Brandon Moore
Defensive Tackle: Mike DeVito
Outside Linebacker: Connor Barwin
Outside Linebacker: Manny Lawson
Safety: Yeremiah Bell
Kicker: Nick Folk


I think the ones that we should consider including the re-signings are
1) Braylon
2) Howard
3) DeVito
4) Bell
5) Mendenhall
6) Landry
7) Barwin
8) Cook

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

1)tom brady qb.
2)calvin johnson wr.
3)von miller olb.
oh you guys were talking seriously?
in that case, don't expect too much thru FA.
much more thru the draft which is heavy at lb. and rb.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

View Postjet-man, on 09 January 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

1)tom brady qb.
2)calvin johnson wr.
3)von miller olb.
oh you guys were talking seriously?
in that case, don't expect too much thru FA.
much more thru the draft which is heavy at lb. and rb.


Actually with a new GM there will probably be lots of activity in free agency...as the new guy clears the old players and brings in some of his type of players. It doesn't mean they will be flashy signings, but there likely will be a heavy roster turnover this offseason.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

View Postganggreen2003, on 09 January 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

I think the ones that we should consider including the re-signings are
1) Braylon
2) Howard
3) DeVito
4) Bell
5) Mendenhall
6) Landry
7) Barwin
8) Cook

I think resigning Landry would be a mistake. He made the Pro Bowl so he will demand significant dollars. he is still injury prone and he can't cover the tight ends we have to deal with. he is a better strong safety than free safety. We can't afford the dollars v. the potential for injury and the lack of coverage.

I like the thought of resigning DeVito, Moore, Folk, Bell, Braylon and Howard. Greene, Scott, Pace, Thomas, E and J Smith, Ducasse and Keller should go. I love the idea of trying to sign Ivory to replace Greene (although I like Powell also). Barwin would also be a great addition. And we would still need to draft a guard.

But where are we getting this money? We can knock $31 million of our cal but we are over by a lot going in so maybe we have $5 million other than the rookie money to play with (not sure of this so please chime in if you know better). We would have to see if players would rework contracts.
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