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S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:18 AM) what up home dawgs?
S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:22 AM) long time no chat, Ya boy has returned from the depths. Good to see everyone alive and well. Another season down the drain... what else is new? Fitz coming back next yr means we wont be going to the superbowl. We seriously need to land a QB. I hope Petty is the future and Im still quietly waiting for Geno to show up. IF they retain him it would speak volumes
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 January 2016 - 11:23 AM) I'm done with Geno. Never really expected much from him from the beginning. So I'm also looking for Petty to be the future.
vjdbbq Icon : (29 January 2016 - 04:33 PM) GENO SUCKS MONKEY DICK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:16 PM) S-Dubb??.Who's that guy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:17 PM) FIRE S-DUBB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Dubb and Amen? Did I take a wrong turn and land back in 2007?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Haha good to see both of you
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:28 PM) I don't care if Cro comes back, I think Marcus Williams can start opposite Revis. Hes a ball hawk and has performed well everytime hes called on.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) I want Fitz back as starter, he lacks arm talent but he is scrappy
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) The team loves him as a leader and he is a good bridge QB as we groom a QB of the future.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He also has top notch pocket awareness.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He allows our playmakers to make plays. After years of terrible QB play, I'll take 31 TD 15 INTs almost 4,000 yards
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 February 2016 - 12:41 AM) I can't stop thinking about the off season...... what the hell are we gonna do!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Maccagnan is going to have to show his worth
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) They can't have Wilkerson on that franchise tag, they have to sign him long term with a small cap hit or trade him. Otherwise we are in trouble with other FAs.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) We need Harrison back, you can't run a effective 3-4 without a stud NT.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:01 AM) I hope we get Harrison back on a 4 yr contract.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:55 PM) I really think we are going to have to tag and trade Wilkerson
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) If we keep wilk we lose Harrison or Fitzpatrick maybe both
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) And ivory
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM) We can't keep Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams. A move has to be made
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) If the Jets want to go cheaper, they can try to trade Wilkerson and have Richardson/Williams for cheap
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Kaepernick apparently wants out of SF and wants to join the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Guess he sees the Jets as a team with a great WR tandem and a quality OC who builds a offense around the players
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) No thanks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) Unless he's dirt cheap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) Marshall said no to Kaepnerick, he wants FItzpatrick as his QB
vjdbbq Icon : (04 February 2016 - 12:07 PM) Where's Rob ? I need some ass shots !!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its crazy how dead this site is
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:16 PM) its super bowl Sunday!!
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 04:47 PM) Everybody is at Rob's house ; checking out the asses !!!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (07 February 2016 - 05:17 PM) Hope Cotchery gets a ring tonight
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:04 PM) Yeah I would rather see a panther win
santana Icon : (07 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Zzzz
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (07 February 2016 - 09:03 PM) I want to see Manning go out on top
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 06:42 AM) Denver has two future HOF edge rushers with Miller and Ware.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (08 February 2016 - 08:01 PM) NO to kapergimmick
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How About This Trade?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:32 PM

Alright, last retarded hypothetical trade that will never ever happen in real life. I promise.

Revis & Sanchez to the Chargers for Rivers?

Why the Chargers would do it: New management is not tied to Rivers. Rivers is on the last year of his contract and has obviously regressed the last 2 years. SD is not winning anything in the AFC West until Peyton retires, so they probably will work on a 3 year plan. Revis automatically becomes the face of the franchise and is the best player in the NFL at the biggest hole on the Chargers: pass defense (and when you play Peyton twice a year, you need better than average pass defense). Sanchez can be sold to the fans as a reclamation project that got shafted by bad management in NYC and now has the opportunity to flourish with a big WR core and back in South Cal.

Why the Jets would do it: we're treading water as far as the cap goes and Revis will want a new max deal in a year. We simply cannot afford him. Considering that we finished 5th in pass defense without him, it's safe to assume that he's a luxury. The money earmarked for him can be better spent by locking up Landry and looking to maybe get a cheaper FA ball hawking safety as well as just having some money so we don't have guys off the street at key position come November. Getting rid of Sanchez and his contract is self explanatory. Getting Rivers is a gamble, but at this point, what's better? Going all in with Rivers or drafting and developing a QB that may or may not work out? Rivers, at his best, is the best QB in the history of the franchise. Rivers at his worst is basically Brett Favre when he hurt his arm but refused to stop throwing into triple coverage. Either way, he's better than anything we can get in 2013.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:28 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 17 January 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

Alright, last retarded hypothetical trade that will never ever happen in real life. I promise.

Revis & Sanchez to the Chargers for Rivers?

Why the Chargers would do it: New management is not tied to Rivers. Rivers is on the last year of his contract and has obviously regressed the last 2 years. SD is not winning anything in the AFC West until Peyton retires, so they probably will work on a 3 year plan. Revis automatically becomes the face of the franchise and is the best player in the NFL at the biggest hole on the Chargers: pass defense (and when you play Peyton twice a year, you need better than average pass defense). Sanchez can be sold to the fans as a reclamation project that got shafted by bad management in NYC and now has the opportunity to flourish with a big WR core and back in South Cal.

Why the Jets would do it: we're treading water as far as the cap goes and Revis will want a new max deal in a year. We simply cannot afford him. Considering that we finished 5th in pass defense without him, it's safe to assume that he's a luxury. The money earmarked for him can be better spent by locking up Landry and looking to maybe get a cheaper FA ball hawking safety as well as just having some money so we don't have guys off the street at key position come November. Getting rid of Sanchez and his contract is self explanatory. Getting Rivers is a gamble, but at this point, what's better? Going all in with Rivers or drafting and developing a QB that may or may not work out? Rivers, at his best, is the best QB in the history of the franchise. Rivers at his worst is basically Brett Favre when he hurt his arm but refused to stop throwing into triple coverage. Either way, he's better than anything we can get in 2013.

I wouldn't make that trade even if it was possible. To begin with, a team doesn't lose money against the cap because they trade someone. So Revis and Sanchez would still count heavily. Secondly, I am not a Rivers fan at all. Yes - he is better than Sanchez (everyone is) but I don't think you realize how important Revis is. This year we didn't blitz, and were much more susceptible to the run because we couldn't isolate the other teams best receiver and take him out of the game. That used to leave us with an extra man to blitz, play an 8 man front or whatever.

In the last season before this one (2011) Revis graded out to 24.5 in a rating system of all players. Don't ask me how they get these numbers or what they mean other than to show effectiveness. The second highest rated cornerback graded out at 17.5! Normally there are tenths of a point difference between players. This difference is unheard of. He is by far the best CB in the league and if his injury doesn't destroy him, he will eventually go down as maybe the best of all time.

And we're going to consider giving him up for Rivers?
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:59 PM

Rivers is a hugely overrated QB. No way. He is a better Cutler. A physically talented player who isn't much of a leader.

And I think a big part our pass defense being highly ranked was how bad our run defense was. When you can't stop the run teams don't need to throw.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

View Postchocomag, on 17 January 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

To begin with, a team doesn't lose money against the cap because they trade someone.


How can that be? If Player A is owed $4M and he's traded, that $4M is traded with him. No?
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 12:57 AM

1. Why are we wanting to trade Revis????

2. I would rather have mark then have rivers :saythat:
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

I think that trade would be terrible idea. Revis is one of the all time elite at his position.

We know nothing about Rivers now. He had a bad 2012. Could it be the quality of teammates?? Yes it could but it could also be that Rivers is starting to go down hill.If Rivers was at the top of his game the trade might make some sense but not at this point.

Its to much of a risk even though an aging Rivers would still be a big upgrade over Sanchez.

If Revis is involved in a trade it had better be for the first draft pick for and almost sure bet or an equally elite player in return.


With all that said I do think the chances of Revis retiring as a Jet are very slim unless he ends his career over an injury. As long as he is at the peak of his game and playing levels above the rest of the cb`s in the league and the money he costs he will always be trade bait.

In this day and age almost no one stays their whole career with one only team. After qb`s the chances of a player in any other position staying with one team their whole career is very very slim. I'm pretty sure most hof`rs played with more than one team and its a definite for most current and recent players that are future Hof`rs.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:53 PM

Regardless, with the newest hires, if the Jets are getting a new QB, the most likely ones are Flynn and Vick.
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