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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:01 PM

Went to the optometrist today...still can't find any glasses that are Revis colored
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:21 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 20 February 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

Went to the optometrist today...still can't find any glasses that are Revis colored



I think they sell them at Wal-Mart between the invisible guns and the internet muscle barbells.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

Yall just mad Revis is stylin on you -realtalk-
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:09 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 20 February 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

Little risk he will come back 100%? What data can you provide to back this statement? Considering Revis couldn't even return from his own holdout at 100%, I'm very interested to know what facts you bring to the table.

I've said time & time again that he does hold trade value, so we should get something for him rather than lose him to the highest bidder because we all know the word loyalty is completely foreign to him when it comes to the Jets. He's asked for more money 4 times in 6 years.

I'd rather trade him to get something for him while he's worth it rather than throwing 16-20 mill at a question mark only to win 6 or 7 games each season before he cries for a new contract again in the 2014 off season.


I am not sure what you mean by data. Medical science is not physical info. It's not like if you throw a brick through a window and you can see it physicaly break. At some point in our lives we have to use our common sense. Some people still believe that smoking does not cause health problems because they can't see the actual burning chemicals and drugs doing damage but common sense and historical data would show it does.

When you look at athletes who have gone through this in the past 10years or so just about all of them came back to 100%. Of course there is always the exception but we have no reason to believe that is the case here. From a quick google search here are some players who experts say have come back to 100%

NBA
Al Harrington
Al Jefferson
Baron Davis
Davis West
Jason Smith
Jamal Crawford
Cory Brewer
Bonzi Wells
Kendrick Perkins
Kyle Lowry

NFL
Wes Welker
Adrian Peterson
Jamal Charles
Tom Brady
Willis Mcgahee
John Elway

I guess I could go on but the point is most of these guys get the best care from the best people. Revis will be fine.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:48 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 20 February 2013 - 11:09 PM, said:

I am not sure what you mean by data. Medical science is not physical info. It's not like if you throw a brick through a window and you can see it physicaly break. At some point in our lives we have to use our common sense. Some people still believe that smoking does not cause health problems because they can't see the actual burning chemicals and drugs doing damage but common sense and historical data would show it does.

When you look at athletes who have gone through this in the past 10years or so just about all of them came back to 100%. Of course there is always the exception but we have no reason to believe that is the case here. From a quick google search here are some players who experts say have come back to 100%

NBA
Al Harrington
Al Jefferson
Baron Davis
Davis West
Jason Smith
Jamal Crawford
Cory Brewer
Bonzi Wells
Kendrick Perkins
Kyle Lowry

NFL
Wes Welker
Adrian Peterson
Jamal Charles
Tom Brady
Willis Mcgahee
John Elway

I guess I could go on but the point is most of these guys get the best care from the best people. Revis will be fine.



We can throw out every name you listed for the NBA because its a different game & they don't take the beating NFL players take. Mcgahee, elway, brady all have NOT returned 100%. Brady plays scared & is still off on his throws regardless of what you think. A.P. is just a freak. Jamal Charles was simply dedicated & is another anomaly. Same with Welker. So 3 out of how many hundreds if not thousands made it back. And they didn't have the predisposition to hurt themselves returning from time away. Revis does. His own people said it and past experience proves it. Is there a chance that he can return to the same guy who takes away almost half the field? Yes there is & if he stays a Jet, then I pray he does, but is the risk worth the reward? I don't think so & MANY people including those same "experts" excluding some racist Walker agree with me. You know as well as I do that unless we overpay him to extend him, he's GONE after the season & the ONLY thing that will matter to him is the figure that would hit his bank account. Nothing more. Hell.....we may as well make him part owner of the team according to some of you since in your minds, it's Revis & then everyone below him is substandard. He already acts like he's the entire team. So why not do it?

Rather than working out in Arizona with the same trainer that couldn't keep him ready during his holdout, maybe he should be working with the Andrews institute to rehab like Peterson & Charles did in order to come back ready. Instead, he's doing the same old thing & is going to wind up with the same old results. If he's ready for the season opener, I'm willing to bet he's pulling up lame by the end of game 2.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 February 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

We can throw out every name you listed for the NBA because its a different game & they don't take the beating NFL players take. Mcgahee, elway, brady all have NOT returned 100%. Brady plays scared & is still off on his throws regardless of what you think. A.P. is just a freak. Jamal Charles was simply dedicated & is another anomaly. Same with Welker. So 3 out of how many hundreds if not thousands made it back. And they didn't have the predisposition to hurt themselves returning from time away. Revis does. His own people said it and past experience proves it. Is there a chance that he can return to the same guy who takes away almost half the field? Yes there is & if he stays a Jet, then I pray he does, but is the risk worth the reward? I don't think so & MANY people including those same "experts" excluding some racist Walker agree with me. You know as well as I do that unless we overpay him to extend him, he's GONE after the season & the ONLY thing that will matter to him is the figure that would hit his bank account. Nothing more. Hell.....we may as well make him part owner of the team according to some of you since in your minds, it's Revis & then everyone below him is substandard. He already acts like he's the entire team. So why not do it?

Rather than working out in Arizona with the same trainer that couldn't keep him ready during his holdout, maybe he should be working with the Andrews institute to rehab like Peterson & Charles did in order to come back ready. Instead, he's doing the same old thing & is going to wind up with the same old results. If he's ready for the season opener, I'm willing to bet he's pulling up lame by the end of game 2.

LMFAO, did you just write off HALF of azjetsfan's NFL list as "anomalies?' How about Marcus Lattimore? He made it back the first time. Mcgahee didn't make it back? He hasn't had a successful career in the NFL with multiple 1,000 yard seasons? Brady? Are you serious? Check this out. Since Brady's injury, he has never had a single season with a quarterback rating lower than 96.2. Ok, now guess how many times he had a quarterback rating of 96.2 or higher in the EIGHT seasons before his injury................I'll wait while you guess..............ONE. The answer is ONE. Brady hasn't thrown for less than 28 touchdowns in a season since his injury, now guess how many times he threw for more than 28 touchdowns before his injury, i'll wait.................ONE!!! The answer is ONE again! He's also won the same amount of NFL MVPs in the 4 seasons since the injury and he did in the 8 seasons before it,........ONE! The argument could be made that Brady returned to OVER 100%, almost bionic if you will. You make my fuckin head hurt with the dumb shit you say sometimes man...
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:53 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 February 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

We can throw out every name you listed for the NBA because its a different game & they don't take the beating NFL players take.

I am not by any means a NBA expert but I believe they play just about everynight for most of the year. Also thaey are running up and down the court all game versus every 40 seconds running for 5 seconds. Google soccer and ACL and see all the players that have come back. You are incorrect saying that that is not a good assesment. I could go on and on with names but I felt enough was there. And by the way Elway had his ACL removed and played at a high level and yes I understand QB is a less athletic position.

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Mcgahee, elway, brady all have NOT returned 100%. Brady plays scared & is still off on his throws regardless of what you think. A.P. is just a freak. Jamal Charles was simply dedicated & is another anomaly. Same with Welker. So 3 out of how many hundreds if not thousands made it back.


I would like to see this magical list of 1000s of pro athlets who have not returned. Brady plays scared? Really? Come on man. The other three are just freaks? Now your making excuses. The fact is Revis will return and be fine. The real question is can we resign him or not. If not we must trade him before he hits the open market and lands with Brady and ruins our life for the next 6 years.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:20 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 21 February 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

LMFAO, did you just write off HALF of azjetsfan's NFL list as "anomalies?' How about Marcus Lattimore? He made it back the first time. Mcgahee didn't make it back? He hasn't had a successful career in the NFL with multiple 1,000 yard seasons? Brady? Are you serious? Check this out. Since Brady's injury, he has never had a single season with a quarterback rating lower than 96.2. Ok, now guess how many times he had a quarterback rating of 96.2 or higher in the EIGHT seasons before his injury................I'll wait while you guess..............ONE. The answer is ONE. Brady hasn't thrown for less than 28 touchdowns in a season since his injury, now guess how many times he threw for more than 28 touchdowns before his injury, i'll wait.................ONE!!! The answer is ONE again! He's also won the same amount of NFL MVPs in the 4 seasons since the injury and he did in the 8 seasons before it,........ONE! The argument could be made that Brady returned to OVER 100%, almost bionic if you will. You make my fuckin head hurt with the dumb shit you say sometimes man...


Dude....you're a fvcking moron if you think Brady's ability to throw means that his knee is 100%. And I have news for you....maybe you should pay attention during games considering even the commentators on the games were saying how Brady doesn't step into his throws like he used to. Marcus who? He's a fvcking nobody that isn't even in the fvcking league yet. McGahee came back 100%? Really? Why? Because he had 3 seasons where he got 1000 yards in fvcking DENVER? Your grandmother could run behind that Denver line at that point & get 1000 yards. What's he done since? Between 300 & 700 yards. Yeah......that's 100% alright. Come back to me when you gain a little knowledge. You want names, here's some for you. Talk to these guys about knee problems:

Barry Foster
Brian Westbrook
Mark Bavaro
Robert Edwards
Ickey Woods
LeCharles Bentley
Keith Millard
Bob Sanders
William Andrews
Daunte Culpepper
Billy simms
Cadillac Williams
Steve Emtman
Gayle Sayers
Terrell Davis

Want more? Get the fvck out of here with that bvllshit that the odds are so great for everyone to return from knee injuries.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 20 February 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

It's time for a lot of people to wake up & realize that Revis is NOT bound for the Hall of Fame. He's honestly no better than Ty Law. Or do you think Law is going to the Hall too considering during his first 6 years in the league, he had MORE INT's, MORE tackles, & same amount of Defensive TD's as Revis? Take a look at both of their first 6 years in the league & compare numbers.

I know everybody HOPES he comes back fine but its not going to happen with his people already making excuses for him. But yet people here will still say to look at AP & Jamal Charles. My point was Revis is no AP or Charles. Both of them were able to come back sooner than Revis without their people making excuses for them. They kept their mouth shut rather than crying that the owner doesn't want to pay them. Like I said......he's no superman or some God like people seem to think he is. If so, then he'd be ready in the same time as AP & have better numbers than a pedestrian Ty Law. But......he couldn't do either.

Man, can you two guys argue. Do either of you expect the other to suddenly write that he was wrong and the other one of you was right? That's what makes sports sports. I will admit, I am a bit amazed that you lump Revis in with Aaron Glenn and even Ty Law. His past play ranks more with Deion Sanders.

It is true when you state that he is returning from an injury and you never know. But, medicine today is pretty good and there is no reason to expect him not to return at or near 100%.

I do happen to believe that Revis is pre-occupied with his salary and that isn't necesarily a bad thing. But it sure makes it a business. And in keeping with the business aspect of things, I think trading him is in the best interest of the Jets. I don;t say this loosely as he is by far my favorite player.

But the position doesn't win Super Bowls. Check out the past 10 winners and you might find 1 elite shut down corner (Woodsen. Giants didn't have one, Ravens this year didn't have one. Patriots didn't have one.Steelers didn't have one. Saints didn't have one.

What does win Super Bowls is an elite QB or one that is red hot at the time. A strong pass rush and a superior O-line are also crucial. We don't have any of those at this time and need to build them. Spending $28 million on our defensive backfield just makes no sense. Spending $14 million on a CB is also whacked - just ask the Eagles.

Let's try and get a first and second or at worst a first and third for him and then trade down our number 9 in the first for a lower first round pick maybe picking up a second or third. That would give us 2 first round picks, 2 or 3 second round picks and 2 or 3 third round picks. Then trade one of our third rounders or maybe even a fourth rounder to Seattle for Flynn. Use those high draft choices to build our OLB, O-Line, CB (replacing Revis), TE (assuming we let Keller walk).

That makes more sense to me than keeping Revis at the price he will demand.

But either way guys, you will never convince the other.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 February 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

Dude....you're a fvcking moron if you think Brady's ability to throw means that his knee is 100%. And I have news for you....maybe you should pay attention during games considering even the commentators on the games were saying how Brady doesn't step into his throws like he used to. Marcus who? He's a fvcking nobody that isn't even in the fvcking league yet. McGahee came back 100%? Really? Why? Because he had 3 seasons where he got 1000 yards in fvcking DENVER? Your grandmother could run behind that Denver line at that point & get 1000 yards. What's he done since? Between 300 & 700 yards. Yeah......that's 100% alright. Come back to me when you gain a little knowledge. You want names, here's some for you. Talk to these guys about knee problems:

Barry Foster
Brian Westbrook
Mark Bavaro
Robert Edwards
Ickey Woods
LeCharles Bentley
Keith Millard
Bob Sanders
William Andrews
Daunte Culpepper
Billy simms
Cadillac Williams
Steve Emtman
Gayle Sayers
Terrell Davis

Want more? Get the fvck out of here with that bvllshit that the odds are so great for everyone to return from knee injuries.

Please see my other post regarding the advances in sports and medical science. That might help explain your list of ancient names, lol.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 21 February 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Please see my other post regarding the advances in sports and medical science. That might help explain your list of ancient names, lol.


Bob Sanders, Brian Westbrook, Daunte Culpepper, LeCharles Bentley, Cadillac Williams are all ancient? WOW. I wasn't aware that 2011 was that long ago. I could've sworn Mark Bavaro was playing in the same era as John Elway who is listed as one of your so-called success stories. ROFLMAO. Did you even bother to read the list? Somehow I doubt it.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 February 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

Bob Sanders, Brian Westbrook, Daunte Culpepper, LeCharles Bentley, Cadillac Williams are all ancient? WOW. I wasn't aware that 2011 was that long ago. I could've sworn Mark Bavaro was playing in the same era as John Elway who is listed as one of your so-called success stories. ROFLMAO. Did you even bother to read the list? Somehow I doubt it.



2011? Do you just guess and hope that non of us will look to see if that is factual? All those guys are pre 2008. Try again. If you want to remove Elway from the list thats fine. There are still plenty of pros that prove your wrong.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:28 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 21 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

2011? Do you just guess and hope that non of us will look to see if that is factual? All those guys are pre 2008. Try again. If you want to remove Elway from the list thats fine. There are still plenty of pros that prove your wrong.


Stop hating already. You didn't specify when the injury was fvckface. You said when they stopped playing. Get over yourself. You're looking REALLY fvcking stupid. 2011 yes.

Name 5 football pros that have come back ONE HUNDRED PERCENT in the last 5 years. So far you guys have names Adrian Peterson & Jamal Charles. Where's the rest since they apparently outnumber the ones that haven't in your mind. Can't say Brady because I alreadey shot that to hell.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 February 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

Stop hating already. You didn't specify when the injury was fvckface. You said when they stopped playing. Get over yourself. You're looking REALLY fvcking stupid.


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View Postazjetfan, on 21 February 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Normally when people resort to cursing it is because they do not have the intelligence to express there feeling in a constructive manner.


What's wrong? The way I speak isn't up to your politcally correct standards? Fvck being politically correct. Political correctness is for pu$$ies.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:59 PM

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2011? Do you just guess and hope that non of us will look to see if that is factual? All those guys are pre 2008.


Since you wanted 5 that are more recent than 2008.....How's 11 sound? Every last one of these guys had an ACL injury in 2011. Who came back at 100%?

Chris Cooley
Tim Hightower
Earnest Graham
Jeff Otah
Bradley Fletcher
Bob Sanders
Kenny Britt - pre injury 17 avg ypc. After = 13
Tony Moeaki
Thomas Davis
Nate Kaeding
Eric Berry
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:21 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 February 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

Since you wanted 5 that are more recent than 2008.....How's 11 sound? Every last one of these guys had an ACL injury in 2011. Who came back at 100%?

Chris Cooley
Tim Hightower
Earnest Graham
Jeff Otah
Bradley Fletcher
Bob Sanders
Kenny Britt - pre injury 17 avg ypc. After = 13
Tony Moeaki
Thomas Davis
Nate Kaeding
Eric Berry


I guess I'll be the one to wreck your list:

Cooley - was playing through knee troubles but was placed on IR after breaking his finger....soooooooo no ACL injury here......
Hightower - never got a chance after the injury, so how would YOU know if he's 100% if no one else does?
Graham - tore his ACHILLES, you don't know your ass from your elbow sometimes
Otah - Googled "Jeff Otah ACL," searched through 4 pages of results and found nothing. Articles only say "knee problems" or "flare ups," none of them say ACL
Fletcher - these articles would seem to indicate that Fletcher was playing well, but got buried on the depth chart by the coaches Comeback Complete Buried
Sanders - all articles say "knee injury," regardless, Sanders was on a severe decline due to a multiplicity of injuries of the years. And since he hasn't played since the injury, again, how do you know if he's 100% or not?
Britt - Britt was hampered by an additional ankle injury this season which must be taken into consideration. Also, when evaluating his YPC, consider the variable of switching from a veteran quarterback to a young gun. There are other factors at play
Moeaki - pre-injury stats are VERY similar to post-injury stats, so what is your point? ESPN Stats
Davis - recorded the 2nd highest combined tackles of his career this season at 103, to go along with 2 FF and 1 INT, after tearing his ACL FOR THE 3RD TIME!
Kaeding - I'm gonna give you this one, but seeing as how his entire position is dedicated to his legs, his case is not analogous to Revis'
Berry - His stats were down slightly from 2010, and I would agree that he did not appear to be at 100% this season. But I would say it was a solid 90%

Most of your examples here were really shitty, some just downright wrong (Graham and Davis in particular). I urge you to do more research before spewing your volatile garbage, it'll save you the embarrassment next time.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:30 AM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 21 February 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

I guess I'll be the one to wreck your list:

Cooley - was playing through knee troubles but was placed on IR after breaking his finger....soooooooo no ACL injury here......
Hightower - never got a chance after the injury, so how would YOU know if he's 100% if no one else does?
Graham - tore his ACHILLES, you don't know your ass from your elbow sometimes
Otah - Googled "Jeff Otah ACL," searched through 4 pages of results and found nothing. Articles only say "knee problems" or "flare ups," none of them say ACL
Fletcher - these articles would seem to indicate that Fletcher was playing well, but got buried on the depth chart by the coaches Comeback Complete Buried
Sanders - all articles say "knee injury," regardless, Sanders was on a severe decline due to a multiplicity of injuries of the years. And since he hasn't played since the injury, again, how do you know if he's 100% or not?
Britt - Britt was hampered by an additional ankle injury this season which must be taken into consideration. Also, when evaluating his YPC, consider the variable of switching from a veteran quarterback to a young gun. There are other factors at play
Moeaki - pre-injury stats are VERY similar to post-injury stats, so what is your point? ESPN Stats
Davis - recorded the 2nd highest combined tackles of his career this season at 103, to go along with 2 FF and 1 INT, after tearing his ACL FOR THE 3RD TIME!
Kaeding - I'm gonna give you this one, but seeing as how his entire position is dedicated to his legs, his case is not analogous to Revis'
Berry - His stats were down slightly from 2010, and I would agree that he did not appear to be at 100% this season. But I would say it was a solid 90%

Most of your examples here were really shitty, some just downright wrong (Graham and Davis in particular). I urge you to do more research before spewing your volatile garbage, it'll save you the embarrassment next time.


So you rely on Google for all of your information? EVERY one of those I listed with the exception of Graham had knee & acl injuries last year alone. He's living proof of the increased risk of re-injuring the ACL once its injured the first time. Or is it that he's just cursed according to you? As for your statement of people not getting a chance.......you're telling me they didn't work out with the team or go to camp if they were able & simply got out played therefore dropped on the depth chart? That would mean they weren't as good. Do better research next time & don't rely on Google so much. I'm done with you. I've now given you 15 players in the last 5 seasons who were hampered by knee & acl problems, research studies & other materials to which you could educate yourself but you're just stuck on this magic that Revis must possess to where he's a lock to come back 100% as far as you're concerned.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:15 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 22 February 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

So you rely on Google for all of your information? EVERY one of those I listed with the exception of Graham had knee & acl injuries last year alone. He's living proof of the increased risk of re-injuring the ACL once its injured the first time. Or is it that he's just cursed according to you? As for your statement of people not getting a chance.......you're telling me they didn't work out with the team or go to camp if they were able & simply got out played therefore dropped on the depth chart? That would mean they weren't as good. Do better research next time & don't rely on Google so much. I'm done with you. I've now given you 15 players in the last 5 seasons who were hampered by knee & acl problems, research studies & other materials to which you could educate yourself but you're just stuck on this magic that Revis must possess to where he's a lock to come back 100% as far as you're concerned.

I never said he'd come back at 100%, but I do believe he'll be back at 90%+, and Revis at 90%+ is still better than almost every corner in the league. By the following season, he would likely be 100%. There isn't nearly as much stigma concerning career longevity after ACL injuries as there used to be. You can deny that until your blue in the face, but it's a fact nowadays.

And just so we're clear, I'm in the "trade Revis" camp, I just get tired of the bullshit you constantly spew.
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