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azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:36 AM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 22 February 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

And just so we're clear, I'm in the "trade Revis" camp, I just get tired of the bullshit you constantly spew.


Bvllshit I constantly spew? Really? In almost 7 years being here, you're got a total of 160 posts. Most of which are in this thread.

You say about next year with Revis.....here's one for you brainiac. If we don't give him the outrageous money he wants or trade him & he leaves via free agency, did you know we take a 9 million dollar cap hit NEXT year? Did you also know that without him, we were the ONLY team in the league to not allow a 100 yard receiver this past season?

Grow up & then come talk to me when you gain a little knowledge. Fvcking trolls from Miami are more active here than you are but I'm supposed to give a $hit about your opinion? ROFLMAO.

If you don't like how I speak or what I write, use the ignore button because I'm not changing for you or anyone else. Deal with it.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

I feel like FlyHi is a fake SHJ account that I use when I want to piss off everyone.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:40 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 22 February 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

I feel like FlyHi is a fake SHJ account that I use when I want to piss off everyone.


ROFLMAO!! Definitely got things fired up around here for a few days at least. Can't say this offseason is as bad as seasons past.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:45 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 22 February 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

Bvllshit I constantly spew? Really? In almost 7 years being here, you're got a total of 160 posts. Most of which are in this thread.

You say about next year with Revis.....here's one for you brainiac. If we don't give him the outrageous money he wants or trade him & he leaves via free agency, did you know we take a 9 million dollar cap hit NEXT year? Did you also know that without him, we were the ONLY team in the league to not allow a 100 yard receiver this past season?

Grow up & then come talk to me when you gain a little knowledge. Fvcking trolls from Miami are more active here than you are but I'm supposed to give a $hit about your opinion? ROFLMAO.

If you don't like how I speak or what I write, use the ignore button because I'm not changing for you or anyone else. Deal with it.

So because I don't post often I'm not active? I've read this site almost every day for the last 7 years, and yes, my posts are generally reserved for jerkoffs like you. So that makes my opinion less important? Lol, GTFO of here you damn hillbilly. It takes a pretty narcissistic asshole to believe his opinion is worth more than others, but I would expect nothing less from your inbred ass. Gain a little knowledge? This coming from the guy who just told me Graham tore his ACL last year? People on this site fact-check everything you say because you don't know shit champ, you just talk a big game and act like you do. Realize this, please, for the love of god: you are not better than any other poster on this site. You arguably contribute very little but vitriol and you should probably do the world a favor and proceed with a vasectomy. Save us from future generations of your bullshit please.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:31 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 22 February 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

Lol, GTFO of here you damn hillbilly. It takes a pretty narcissistic asshole to believe his opinion is worth more than others, but I would expect nothing less from your inbred ass.



You claim about fact checking, but you've STILL failed to produce 5 names that HAVE come back 100% from knee or ACL injuries. funny....I get ONE wrong out of 16 & I supposedly don't know $hit? My 18 month old neice is smarter than you are. Funny how I've already said I respect other people's opinions & I never once said my opinion is worth more than anyone else's. You're the narcicistic little pu$$y acting like your opinion is worth more than mine the talking $hit trying to get me banned. You claim I'm an inbred hillbilly.......I give you the same open invitiation to come check this inbred hillbilly. I guarantee you'll stay nice & safe behind your monitor & keyboard like the pu$$y you are. You are nowhere near on my level kid. Grow up, get a job & move out of Mommy & Daddy's basement.

Funny how you choose to ignore the challenge to actually produce names & you choose to ignore the actual sense I've made the entire time regarding this being a BUSINESS & the team needing to make the best business decision.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:41 PM

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I've recently forgotten how to understand dumbasses, you'll have to excuse me.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:23 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 22 February 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

So you rely on Google for all of your information? EVERY one of those I listed with the exception of Graham had knee & acl injuries last year alone. He's living proof of the increased risk of re-injuring the ACL once its injured the first time. Or is it that he's just cursed according to you? As for your statement of people not getting a chance.......you're telling me they didn't work out with the team or go to camp if they were able & simply got out played therefore dropped on the depth chart? That would mean they weren't as good. Do better research next time & don't rely on Google so much. I'm done with you. I've now given you 15 players in the last 5 seasons who were hampered by knee & acl problems, research studies & other materials to which you could educate yourself but you're just stuck on this magic that Revis must possess to where he's a lock to come back 100% as far as you're concerned.

I am done just trying to piss you off now so I will be serious.

But it was not the first. All of them had ACLs before. Once a surgury is done it can only be as strong as that original surgury. Hence the whole medical advances arguement. The point is when you look at guys who have had their first ACL injury in the past 5 years they have come back strong. Maybe not 100% the first year but like some of the posts I have already made it can take up to 12 months to be @100%. Revis will be fine and will be a HOFer IMO. Trading away talent because he acts like a Diva does not make sense to me.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 February 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

What's wrong? The way I speak isn't up to your politcally correct standards? Fvck being politically correct. Political correctness is for pu$$ies.


Thank you for proving my point. :trink39:
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:06 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 22 February 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

Thank you for proving my point. :trink39:/>


Proving what point? You act like its wrong to not conform to society. What gives other people the right to tell people how they should think or speak? Unless you're planning on doing my job for me & paying my bills, etc, you've got no business telling me how to do anything let alone how to speak.

As for the reason for the trade suggestion, you must not have read a single word I've said if you think I want to trade Revis simply because he's a diva. Would you prefer the 9 million dollar cap hit next season while he goes and cashes in somewhere else? Or do you prefer to throw 16+ million at someone who has a predisposition to re-injure the knee? We all know he's guaranteed hamstring issues.

And no.....Revis won't make the HOF but you're entitled to your opinion.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:23 PM

Any more talk of calling someone a pussy or using words to avoid the filter placed on the website and I'm going to go in action.

This thread is very close to being locked, if it wasn't such a snore fest around here atm, I'd be locked.

Get it together kids.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:01 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 22 February 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

So you rely on Google for all of your information? EVERY one of those I listed with the exception of Graham had knee & acl injuries last year alone. He's living proof of the increased risk of re-injuring the ACL once its injured the first time. Or is it that he's just cursed according to you? As for your statement of people not getting a chance.......you're telling me they didn't work out with the team or go to camp if they were able & simply got out played therefore dropped on the depth chart? That would mean they weren't as good. Do better research next time & don't rely on Google so much. I'm done with you. I've now given you 15 players in the last 5 seasons who were hampered by knee & acl problems, research studies & other materials to which you could educate yourself but you're just stuck on this magic that Revis must possess to where he's a lock to come back 100% as far as you're concerned.


So you have an issue with Google as well? How do you find your information? Bing? Ask Jeeves? Encyclopedia Britannica? Encarta?
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:07 PM

Oh and players who have successfully returned from ACL injuries:

Casey Hampton
Thomas Davis
Domenik Hixon
Wes Welker
Jermanie Gresham
Willis McGahee
Adrian Peterson
Jamaal Charles
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

View PostChaos, on 22 February 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Oh and players who have successfully returned from ACL injuries:

Casey Hampton
Thomas Davis
Domenik Hixon
Wes Welker
Jermanie Gresham
Willis McGahee
Adrian Peterson
Jamaal Charles


Chaos.......have all of these players returned at 100%? If not, the list is worthless. Simply returning is nothing big. It's either 63 or 67% of people with ACL injuries can return. The question is, can they perform at the level they once did? And how much increased risk is there of re-injuring themselves or having hammy issues which will also hamper their production? Unless there's a 95+% that Revis would return to 100% and perform at the level he once did (prior to his holdout), he's not worth 16+ million. He's got (in my opinion) less than a 50% chance of that happening. Why? Because he couldn't even return at 100% from his holdout let alone return from a serious injury.

And btw....while McGahee returned from the injury, his production went from 1200 yards per season to an average of 500 yards not eclipsing 700 yards again until 2011. That doesn't sound like returning 100% to me.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:20 PM

McGahee tore his ACL in college.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 01:03 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 23 February 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

Chaos.......have all of these players returned at 100%? If not, the list is worthless. Simply returning is nothing big. It's either 63 or 67% of people with ACL injuries can return. The question is, can they perform at the level they once did? And how much increased risk is there of re-injuring themselves or having hammy issues which will also hamper their production? Unless there's a 95+% that Revis would return to 100% and perform at the level he once did (prior to his holdout), he's not worth 16+ million. He's got (in my opinion) less than a 50% chance of that happening. Why? Because he couldn't even return at 100% from his holdout let alone return from a serious injury.

And btw....while McGahee returned from the injury, his production went from 1200 yards per season to an average of 500 yards not eclipsing 700 yards again until 2011. That doesn't sound like returning 100% to me.



All this player playing at 100% stuff is laughable. All that is a matter of perception. There is no gauge on the human body to show if a player (or any person) is playing (or working) at 100% or lower. All of this talk of who has and has not performed at 100% since their ACL injuries is all based off of opinion and not any fact. So if you're trying to make an argument that Revis won't return to 100% (whatever you believe 100% to be) of course you're going to say other players with the same injury haven't returned to 100% since their ACL injuries. Obviously you're not going say that any of the players azjetfan and Chaos cited are not back at "100%" since their injuries, because admitting that would mean that it is likely that Revis will too. And that would mean that you'd have to eliminate a reason for trading him. But this "100%" talk is just ridiculous because if I wanted to say Peyton Manning wasn't at 100% last season, I could. There is no gauge on his body that we could look at to see a measurement of what his actual performance output was. One person's 100% could be another person's 40% and another person's 160%. There's no accurate measurement.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

hey 16 pages of trade talk? what would happen if the people that matter in the situation, never even trade him?
i'm just saying.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:08 AM

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Our daily Darrelle: What are the Jets' chances of trading CB Darrelle Revis before the draft? "Not a chance," said one agent, alluding to the lack of cap space around the league. Revis is thought to be seeking about $16 million a year, the annual salary for Bills DE Mario Williams, the highest-paid defensive player. The agent described that deal as an aberration, saying he doesn't expect a cornerback to land a contract that big. One man's opinion -- for what it's worth.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:22 PM

View Postjet-man, on 23 February 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

hey 16 pages of trade talk? what would happen if the people that matter in the situation, never even trade him?
i'm just saying.

They have to trade him. Some of the people on this site don't want that to happen but they really have no good choices here other than that. If he doesn't recover well we are screwed, If he does recover well we can't afford his price. No corner is worth $16 million. If we don't trade him and he walks we are the laughing stock of the league and we will get nothing in return for losing him. And there might even be a big cap hit. If we trade him now the market is skeptical and we won't get as much as we would if he was healthy. If we wait until he comes back and he is healthy we can trade him and get the most value but the 2013 draft will be long gone.

My thoughts are to try and trade him now and hope we can get a 1 and 3 for him. Maybe if a team has cap money they will consider it - it's certainly possible.

If we can pull that off and we can find a team willing to trade up for our #9 in the first we can move down to maybe #14 or #15 and pick up a 2nd round pick. That would give us 2 first round, 2 second round and 2 third round picks, And the nice thing is rookies don't cost as much anymore so our cap hit would be manageable. We could draft OLB's, S, CB, OG, T, TE.

Then we go after Moore at QB or maybe even talk to Seahawks about trading our 4th round pick for Flynn.

Finally, we let Keller, Landry, Greene, Moore walk and try to resign Bell, DeVito, Edwards. Not sure about Slauson.

No CB is worth $16 mil and the disruption it is causing. And Revis is my favorite Jet by far. Only other way is if he was willing to take less and his personality doesn't lend itself to that.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:28 PM

View Postchocomag, on 25 February 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

If we don't trade him and he walks we are the laughing stock of the league and we will get nothing in return for losing him. And there might even be a big cap hit.


We take 9 million in dead money if we don't trade him & he walks after the 2013 season.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 25 February 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

We take 9 million in dead money if we don't trade him & he walks after the 2013 season.

That just can't happen. I say we trade him either now if the deal is right or during the summer if he appears healthy and hope next years draft is deep
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