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NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
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azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
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azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:51 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 06 March 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

I can't wait for people to start bitching about the secondary being unable to cover anyone. They should force Sanchez to write Revis a $8.22M check for this season


Why would people start b!tching about the pass D considering they did better without him than with him? And yeah......I know teams were able to run against us more but then again, they'll still be able to unless some help is brought in. And the fact that teams were able to run on us in the past even more than last year with Revis in the lineup and the pass D was worse with Revis in the lineup.

And why would Sanchez have to pay him? Sanchez (like Revis) should be allowed to get the money he signed for since people say the players should get whatever they can while they can right?

And as for your claim that I have to "prove" anything.......ehhh....wrong answer. I don't need to prove anything to anyone. But.....thank you to Chaos for providing the information that I requested about the difference between Revis' salary/bonuses and his cap hit. That's all I wanted was some info to back up claims.

Again......for the LAST time......I only want to see Revis gone IF he can't come to an agreement to play for REASONABLE money which is NOT for him to be the highest paid CB or defensive player unless it's via escalators in his contract for him to perform at the level he played at before his holdout. Other wise, trade him while he's got value rather than over paying for someone that isn't worth that kind of money. I've never downed Revis the player. I've put down Mevis the person. Big difference.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:56 PM

I still want to know who in this thread said Revis should get paid QB money at all costs
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:05 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 10 March 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

I still want to know who in this thread said Revis should get paid QB money at all costs


I never said at all costs. People intimated that Revis should get paid what he wants. THAT was my point. I'm not going back through 18 pages no matter how many times you repeat yourself. What's the big obsession with it?

There were comments made that he should get PAID as if he earned it or something. Yes.....he earned the right to ask for about 10 per year. Maybe even upwards of 11 if he can perform as he did pre-1020. Any higher than that & you're talking QB money considering QB's are making 13 and up. Revis is not THAT vital to the team. How many CB's won superbowls for their teams? NONE. How many DE's or QB's have? DE's have more impact than CB's. Even with Revis taking away half the field, our DE's were still unable to get to the QB. The Defense's highest ranking came when they wouldn't get set & there was a lot of movement confusing the Offense. You notice that our defense hasn't done that the past 2 years and we missed the playoffs both years?
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 10 March 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

I never said at all costs. People intimated that Revis should get paid what he wants. THAT was my point. I'm not going back through 18 pages no matter how many times you repeat yourself. What's the big obsession with it?



Well...

View PostFlyHiJets, on 05 March 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

As for who said about the 16........how many times have you guys said PAY him basically whatever he wants and you "don't let a once in a lifetime player go" bull$hit.


View PostFlyHiJets, on 05 March 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

As for your question of people saying he should get QB money, how many times has it been said in this thread by people wanting to keep him that he's worth 16 million?


What people have "intimated" that Revis deserves whatever he wants? Was it me? Someone else? You might not have said "at all costs" verbatim, but according to you, everyone in this thread who supports Revis being on the team has his dick in their mouth and said he deserved $16 million. You know what, never mind "at all costs." Forget I said it. Who said Revis deserves to get paid $16 million?

In posts you've chosen to overlook, I asked you to stop avoiding the question and answer who said Revis deserves $16 million and that he is worth QB money. You have yet to do so. You're the one who said it, not me, not Chaos, not Mr_Jet, not 115. If you aren't wrong, then who said he deserves $16 million a year? Nobody said you had to waste time sifting through all 18 pages of this thread. However if I was in your position and saw someone said that, then I wouldn't hesitate to call them out on it and back up what I am saying. You flat out refuse to back up what you are saying. I don't want it to go unnoticed that you called people out on saying that, and now that you were proven wrong, you're trying to shift the attention someplace else.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:39 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 10 March 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Well...





What people have "intimated" that Revis deserves whatever he wants? Was it me? Someone else? You might not have said "at all costs" verbatim, but according to you, everyone in this thread who supports Revis being on the team has his dick in their mouth and said he deserved $16 million. In posts you've chosen to overlook, I asked you to stop avoiding the question and answer who said Revis deserves $16 million and that he is worth QB money. You have yet to do so. You're the one who said it, not me, not Chaos, not Mr_Jet, not 115. If you aren't wrong, then who said he deserves $16 million a year? Nobody said you had to waste time sifting through all 18 pages of this thread. However if I was in your position and saw someone said that, then I wouldn't hesitate to call them out on it and back up what I am saying. You flat out refuse to back up what you are saying. I don't want it to go unnoticed that you called people out on saying that, and now that you were proven wrong, you're trying to shift the attention someplace else.


Where am I trying to shift attention? I said that I'm not going back through 18 pages just to please you. You and others have said he deserves 12-14. THAT is QB money is it not? You act like virtually every QB out there is making between 16-20 just because 3 QB's in the league are. You forget that there's 29 other starting QB's.

Have people in this thread not said he deserves to be paid and they need to re-sign him at almost all costs? He is NOT worth screwing the rest of the team regardless of you personal opinion of how "great" he is. Give it a rest already. He's more than likely NOT going to be a Jet opening day.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:50 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 10 March 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

Where am I trying to shift attention? I said that I'm not going back through 18 pages just to please you. You and others have said he deserves 12-14. THAT is QB money is it not? You act like virtually every QB out there is making between 16-20 just because 3 QB's in the league are. You forget that there's 29 other starting QB's.

Have people in this thread not said he deserves to be paid and they need to re-sign him at almost all costs? He is NOT worth screwing the rest of the team regardless of you personal opinion of how "great" he is. Give it a rest already. He's more than likely NOT going to be a Jet opening day.


You're trying to shift attention by asking a whole bunch of different questions when you haven't answered who said he deserves $16 million per year. Nnamdi made $11M this past season, so it isn't like it's unprecedented for a CB to make that type of money. Btw numbers between 12 and 14 do not equal 16. Only Peyton and Vick made over $12M so it isn't like across the board all QBs are making between $12-14M...or $16 million.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:51 PM

But still...who said Revis deserves $16 million per season?
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:58 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 10 March 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

...unless it's via escalators in his contract for him to perform at the level he played at before his holdout. Other wise, trade him while he's got value...


He played at a high level? He has value? You said he was a bum. Oh yeah, who in this thread said Revis deserved $16 million per season?
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:04 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 10 March 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

He played at a high level? He has value? You said he was a bum. Oh yeah, who in this thread said Revis deserved $16 million per season?



Apparently you need to go back and read Harlem. I never said he was a bum as a player. I said he's a bum as a person. Again.......I'm not going back through 18 fvcking pages just to please you. Who the hell are you to demand a damn thing from me? Let it the fvck go already. Your boy is going to be gone. Live with it.

YOU have said he should be paid 12+ because it would be "crippling" to take the cap hit trading him. YOU said "Paying a player of Revis' caliber should be the top priority". So YOU endorsed paying him QB money.

AND your boy sexyrexy said on January 30 (page 7):
It's only reasonable to think he will want $16-20 million as opposed to something lower, based on his track record.

That being said, he has every right in the world to ask for that. He balls every time he's on the field and football players need to secure as much money as possible in a short amount of time, playing a game with such a high risk of injury. He already took one "band-aid" contract and he tore his ACL during the duration of it.

There's your answer. Satisfied yet? WTF.....get off your high horse already.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:22 PM

I'm not demanding anything. I'm just curious who said Revis should be paid $16 million a year. Who said Revis was "my boy?" I certainly didn't. Just like we told you about people who had no issue with Jason Taylor (I feel like I have an echo because I'm telling you this again, hoping you don't overlook it like you have many things), people who want Revis here are not strictly Revis fanboys. I didn't know it made people disloyal to their favorite team to want to have the best CB in the league on their team.

I absolutely believe paying Revis should be a top priority. When on the field, he is in a class of his own and leaps and bounds ahead of any other CB in the league. Revis shuts down half the field by himself. I am of the belief that you do not trade a player like that, you work with whatever you have in order to fit a player like that into your team. I'm sure you were content with Dyson and Barrnet covering WR's, weren't you? Well, knowing you, my dog should be out there over Revis. Btw, sexyrexy is one who believes Revis should be traded. Additionally, he didn't say Revis deserves $16 million a year, he said that "it's reasonable to think" that that is what he'll be asking for. Is there a RoarLoudLions on some Lions message board who thinks that Megatron is crippling that team?

Btw if I'm not mistaken, and I very well could be (see, it's alright to admit you're wrong), the band aid contract was agreed to be renegotiated this past season. How is Revis selfish if he wants the front office to stick to their word?


So yeah, who in this thread said Revis deserves $16 million a season?
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:38 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 10 March 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

YOU have said he should be paid 12+ because it would be "crippling" to take the cap hit trading him. YOU said "Paying a player of Revis' caliber should be the top priority". So YOU endorsed paying him QB money.


This makes madd sense
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:26 PM

So what's the record for thread length? This is getting out of control.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:02 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 10 March 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

So what's the record for thread length? This is getting out of control.


Gmany's thread of his ramblings is 24 pages.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:28 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 10 March 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

Have people in this thread not said he deserves to be paid and they need to re-sign him at almost all costs?


No. Nobody in this thread has said re-sign him at almost all costs. But hey as we already know it doesn't matter what has actually been written in this thread, it only what you think has been written that matters.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:56 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 11 March 2013 - 01:02 AM, said:

Gmany's thread of his ramblings is 24 pages.


Cigar Bar thread was like 60 lol...we aren't even close
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:59 AM

The Cigar Bar is hall-of-fame level. This shouldn't even be in the same whisper as the Cigar Bar.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:01 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 10 March 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

I never said at all costs.


View PostFlyHiJets, on 10 March 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

Have people in this thread not said he deserves to be paid and they need to re-sign him at almost all costs?


What?

Oh yeah, still waiting to know who said Revis deserves $16 million per season
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:39 AM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 11 March 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

What?

Oh yeah, still waiting to know who said Revis deserves $16 million per season


I just really wanna know who that is in Harlem's avatar....
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 06:41 PM

View PostGoodfellaz, on 12 March 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

I just really wanna know who that is in Harlem's avatar....


Google Melanie Iglesias. Then go to YouTube and search Melanie Iglesias flipbook. There are 4 or 5 videos. It will instantly make your day better.

And just because all this Revis talk is depressing:

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:08 PM

That was the best post in this entire thread!!
I will not be forgotten. This is my time to shine. I've got the scars to prove it. Only the strong survive.

When someone annoys u, it takes 42 muscles in ur face 2 frown. BUT, it only takes 4 muscles 2 extend ur arm & b!tch-slap that mother@*?!&! upside the head!!
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