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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:29 AM

the market is strong for Alex Smith apparently, idk if we'll have enough for him. Him and Matt Flynn are the 2 QBs I would most want to add, Flynn should be cheap and has experience in the WCO. I don't like the QBs in this draft. Plus, I rather use draft picks to fix the holes at other positions.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

did we not learn anything from the kevin kolb ordeal?
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:49 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 16 February 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

You really are delusional. You realize ACL injuries no longer jeopardize careers like they used to right? Look at Peterson and Jamal Charles this year, Ricky Rubio is playing great as we speak, and there are multiple case studies like Derrick Rose, Ladarius Webb, and Rajon Rondo that we can learn from soon. No name rookie? LMFAO. You're about as ignorant as they come buddy. Revis doesn't have to prove shit to have trade value, it already exists. Get over yourself and your superior opinions, you'll be doing the entire f***ing world a favor.



Apparently you need to learn how to read. I SAID Revis has trade value but that's about it. And don't even TRY comparing him to Peterson or Charles. Mevis was in what kind of shape just coming off his holdout? Oh....that's right. Nagging hammy issues. But yet you expect him to come out & perform like a pro-bowler off an ACL surgery? Who's the delusional one here? Peterson & Charles are the exceptions to the rule. Not the norm coming off ACL injury.

You guys act like hes a God & that he's a lock for the Hall of Fame. Fvcking Wayne Chrebet was a better Jet ANY DAY of the week over Mevis. Revis = Keyshawn Johnson. A couple good years & thinks he's owed the world.

If we are ultimately stuck with him for additional years, I'll root for him obviously only because of the uniform that he wears. Not the individual. I say we should get something for him while he does still hold some kind of value & yet that's delusional? I could've sworn you were saying the same damn thing. Welcome to the world of delusion....lol.

Let me ask you something since I'm SOOOO ignorant and all of you are soooo superior in intellect than I am. Since the September 23rd injury, what football activities has Revis done? What activities has he done at all to make you believe he's going to be the same guy? Everything I've read indicates he wont be ready for football related tasks until sometime in April. A full 7 months after the injury. Do you think AP or Charles took 7 months? I don't. So basically, until he proves himself to be of worth, he's got about as much worth as someone coming into the NFL for the first time. He's living off of what he has done IN THE PAST. Not the present.

So talk to me about how delusional I am after this season and we'll see who has what knowledge of ACL injuries.
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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 18 February 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

Let me ask you something since I'm SOOOO ignorant and all of you are soooo superior in intellect than I am. Since the September 23rd injury, what football activities has Revis done? What activities has he done at all to make you believe he's going to be the same guy? Everything I've read indicates he wont be ready for football related tasks until sometime in April. A full 7 months after the injury. Do you think AP or Charles took 7 months? I don't. So basically, until he proves himself to be of worth, he's got about as much worth as someone coming into the NFL for the first time. He's living off of what he has done IN THE PAST. Not the present.


The fact that you're doubting Revis's commitment to football is just offensive. The guy is insanely dedicated to his craft. He was working out BEFORE his surgery to quicken the recovery time. He has plenty of time to heal up and return to the field, why rush things when football season is so far away? And what exactly makes you think that you're better qualified then his doctors to make recovery timetables? He has access to the best medical care and rehab out there, I'll agree with whatever path of action they determine.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostChaos, on 18 February 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

The fact that you're doubting Revis's commitment to football is just offensive. The guy is insanely dedicated to his craft. He was working out BEFORE his surgery to quicken the recovery time. He has plenty of time to heal up and return to the field, why rush things when football season is so far away? And what exactly makes you think that you're better qualified then his doctors to make recovery timetables? He has access to the best medical care and rehab out there, I'll agree with whatever path of action they determine.


Chaos.......why is it that you guys keep putting words in my mouth? Where have I EVER questioned his commitment to football? I never have. I question his commitment to the NY Jets. And that's based on HIS actions REPEATEDLY. When are you people ever going to take the blinders off and see that?

I didn't set his recovery timetable either. I brought up the recovery timetable because so many people around here seem to be under the belief that he's going to come back being the same Revis he was before the injury. I say he won't. Why? Because of his past production after nowhere near as much time off. He came up lame repeatedly with hammy issues coming off his holdout & wasn't in football shape. It was brought up that A.P. & Jamal Charles both had knee surgeries & came back fine. I stated that both of them were doing football related activities sooner than 7 months. Revis is waiting until sometime in April to start. That'll be 7 months after the injury. A.P. was already playing again just about 8 months after surgery to repair his ACL AND MCL. I simply said people shouldn't use A.P. and Jamal Charles as the examples and expect Revis to be like them because he's not. They're the exceptions to the rule. Revis is not God. I say that if Revis needs to be compared to any other player in the history of the league, it should be Keyshawn Johnson.
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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:18 AM

Even though this turned into a Revis topic, I would like to add a few things. Mornhinweg was Foles OC last year, so the kid already knows the system and could help implement it. Also, despite Philly's atrocious season last year, Foles managed multiple 300 yard games and completed over 60% of his passes for a team that had practically given up already. And he had a REALLY bad offensive line. Just a few things worth pointing out.

I also read somewhere (I could probably find a link I'm a little bit) that Foles was the leagues 11th most accurate passer when under pressure. Not bad for a rookie.
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