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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:45 PM

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Darrelle Revis not happy with Jets
Updated: February 18, 2013, 8:31 PM ET
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Darrelle Revis was stunned that general manager John Idzik did not dismiss trade rumors involving the star New York Jets cornerback on Idzik's first day on the job. Now Revis is explaining why, and it's clear he's still irritated about it.

"I was speechless; I tweeted it out I was speechless," Revis told NFL Network's Andrea Kremer in an interview that aired Monday night. "I was speechless because I didn't get a phone call. I know it's a business, just call me, don't have it lingering out there. I need answers and I'm not getting any."

Walker: Revis Deserves More
Can you honestly blame Darrelle Revis for being unhappy about trade rumors? He's not some run-in-the-mill player, writes James Walker. Blog

The network is continuing to follow Revis throughout his rehab from ACL surgery for a series called "Health of the Game."

"Just the fact that that was put out there instead of contacting your best player on the team. If that's how you want to do business, then that's fine," Revis told NFL Network.

Angering the Jets' best player on his first day in Florham Park probably wasn't the way Idzik wanted to start out, but as of now it sounds like he and Revis haven't exactly mended fences. Revis has always had a contentious relationship with the front office. He held out of camp twice when Mike Tannenbaum was GM as his contract was being negotiated.

Revis was under the impression that his most recent contract, signed during the 2010 "Hard Knocks" season, would be reworked after the first two years. He decided not to hold out last summer and tore his ACL in the third quarter of an overtime win in Miami in September. Antonio Cromartie played exceptionally well in Revis' absence, but the Jets went 6-10 and owner Woody Johnson fired Tannenbaum.

Revis has a year remaining on his deal and there is some uncertainty -- will he return as the best corner in the game or will he have lingering health issues? The Jets have the option of trying to get value on the market before his condition is fully known, or keep Revis on the team knowing he still wants a new contract.

The Jets are in a bit of a bind with salary cap issues and are expected to cut some veteran players before the start of free agency. Even with that, the Jets lack flexibility due in part to Mark Sanchez's contract, which guarantees the quarterback more than $8 million for the coming season.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:00 PM

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Darrelle Revis was stunned that general manager John Idzik did not dismiss trade rumors involving the star New York Jets cornerback on Idzik's first day on the job.


thats dumb because first off idzik didn't confirm or deny any rumor thrown his way

every idzik interview i saw on his first day was just him defending him self against the media telling them all to stfu and hold their horses because he just stepped into the damn building
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:19 AM

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Revis was under the impression that his most recent contract, signed during the 2010 "Hard Knocks" season, would be reworked after the first two years.

I swear someone recently told me this wasn't true...


View PostJetsfan115, on 13 February 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

3) it was not a band aid. Thats why there was a claus saying that if revis held out any time during the 4 year deal it would become a 7 year deal. revis was fully intent on playing it out which is also why he put in a claus saying no franchise tag when the deal is done. both sides knew he was playing out this 4 year deal. Who are you to say what revis thought? are you his parents? a close friend? a girlfriend. do you talk to him? no of course not. stop speculating. were dealing with facts only here and you still ignore the facts! do you not understand the difference between a fact and an opinion?

The writer of that article must have been a close relative.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:22 AM

I watched the interview, I think he was more upset with Woody Johnson and doesn't know if Woody wants to keep him a Jet. He says he thinks Idzik is a straight forward guy and had a conversation with him and how Idzik told him he doesn't know whats going on since he just got the job.

I hope they keep him, I hate it when this team gets rid of great players. It feels like we take 1 step forward 2 steps back always..
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:32 AM

I feel like he has every right to be mad. The Jets probably should have approached him with an offer to extend him before the trade speculation began. If he accepted, good, great, grand, wonderful. If he declined, make it public and then toss out trade rumors. That way he looks like the bad guy. The team already has a public image problem, and they need to begin taking affirmative actions to fix it.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:54 AM

Fellas, I love me some Revis, but lets be REAL about it. Does any one NOT think come contract time he will bend the organization over & break the bank? Yes he is under contract for this year...but then he will want to be the highest defensive player in the league...& we have to many holes to fill to spend THAT much on a DB no matter how GREAT he is. It would be awesome if we could keep him, he would make for a great career JET...but the dollars are to much & we can get a couple players for the same money. (not his level, but good to above average)
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

A millionaire is upset that a billionaire didn't call him first. I'm really caring about their feewings.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:18 AM

Trade him. Revis is a great player but his future earnings (if we give him the new contract he is seeking) will seriously hurt the team. I'd rather the jets pay 3 starting players 16 million / year than have to watch this team pay one player 16 million a year that is a non-qb. If the jets can get a first and a 2nd plus some other lower picks....they need to do this. It sucks because revis has hall of fame potential, but he is pricing him self out of new york if the contract numbers are being reported accurately.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:40 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 19 February 2013 - 06:19 AM, said:

I swear someone recently told me this wasn't true...



The writer of that article must have been a close relative.



right, cause writers never "interpret things incorrectly" to make a story seem bigger then it is. You have a lot to learn about the world. Why would a band-aid have a claus that says if he holds out any time during the 4 year contract that it extends to a 7 year contract. I'm not gonna explain the mechanics cause your either too stubborn or too dense to understand it, but if it was really a 2 year band aid and he was under that impression then why would he allow a claus saying that if he tries to hold out for more money any time during the 4 year deal, that he would add 3 more years to the deal on the cheap.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

ths is old hype. idzik did call revis in a private conversation. the media is doing this to the jets cause they can. winning cures all ills. if they win and snub every donkey's ass that kick them when they were down, then that would be a thing to see.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:02 PM

Revision just needs to change his tampon & stop whining. He cries that it was "rude" of the new GM to not call him personally on his first day on the job. Seriously? Roflmao. Bye bye Me is. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 19 February 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

Revision just needs to change his tampon & stop whining. He cries that it was "rude" of the new GM to not call him personally on his first day on the job. Seriously? Roflmao. Bye bye Me is. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.


Any GM who takes over a team and doesn't call their best player(s) instantly isn't someone I want taking the job.

Of course, we did hire someone with a CV that doesn't really add up to being a GM, in my eyes.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 February 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

Any GM who takes over a team and doesn't call their best player(s) instantly isn't someone I want taking the job.

Of course, we did hire someone with a CV that doesn't really add up to being a GM, in my eyes.


Good thing you're not the boss then. Revis acts like he's a partner of the NY Jets for fvck sake. Does this little d0uchebag not understand that he is an EMPLOYEE and not the boss? Idzik didn't owe him a damn thing but yet he took the time to calm the little crying b!tch down anyway and was straight with him. He didn't know what was going to happen yet & that YES.....Revis WOULD BE evaluated just like anyone else on the damn team AS HE SHOULD BE. Revis isn't above anyone else on the team. That's why it's called a TEAM. Revis claims to be the best on the team. I say bvllshit. He isn't fit to play a single down right now is he? If not, then he's below a practice squad guy that can go out and take snaps right this minute. But you know.....that doesn't make sense to many of you because you're living on his PAST record. You know.....the one that couldn't even match Ty Law's over his first 6 years. Was Ty Law superman too?
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:22 PM

Revis is infact above anyone else on this team. He's the best player on this team.

If you don't think a new coach or GM calls their best players as they get the job, you're crazy. You keep your best "employees" as you put it, happy.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

There's a HUGE difference between keeping your employees happy & allowing them to run the business which is what Revis thinks he can do. Why does Revis continue to demand to be treated like a diva? Because people are dumb enough to let him.

You keep saying Revis IS the best player on the team. Let me ask you something.......Right this moment....TODAY....can Revis play better defense than Kyle Wilson let alone Cromartie? Can he go toe for toe with receivers and defend passes, tackle, make cuts & INT's? If not, then he's not the best player on the team right now today is he? You continue to live on his PAST production. By that logic, we should just re-sign Broadway Joe as QB since he's the guy that led us to & was the QB when we won SB3. It's no different. Both of them live off their past and nothing more.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

Glad we don't have a game today.

Or next week.

Or next month.

I'm bowing out here but just know that Revis should be treated much differently to any player on our team. That's life when you're the best of the best.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:30 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 20 February 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

just know that Revis should be treated much differently to any player on our team.


So basically.......what you're saying is that there shouldn't be a TEAM mentality for the Jets? Should the team be renamed to "Revis & the guys that are below him"? I know.....hard to fit on a helmet but that's essentially what you're saying isn't it?

Essentially, Revis already HAS been treated differently than any other player. Anyone else would've been gone LONG ago with how he's held out, talked down about the team & demanded a new contract every 3rd year. He's entering his 7th pro season & has demanded new money 3 times in his short career along with downing not only his coaches, but the front office & then ultimately the owner. Does he want them to hire someone to wipe his as$ for him every time he takes a $hit too? That's how ridiculous that statement is that he should be treated differently than anyone else. Why the hell do you think we haven't won anything in 44 years? This is a TEAM game. Not an individual one. The only times that we came close was when we had people playing to help each other win by being TEAMMATES. Not Divas.

Look at the teams that have won recently........what divas were there that singlehandedly won a Superbowl?
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 20 February 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Glad we don't have a game today.

Or next week.

Or next month.

I'm bowing out here but just know that Revis should be treated much differently to any player on our team. That's life when you're the best of the best.


Wow, before I even scrolled down to read your post you said exactly what I was about to post. I'll say it again though. I'm glad we don't have a game today, next week, or next month. Who cares if Revis can't play today? The Jets aren't scheduled to play a game today or any time soon. The blind hate he has for Revis is hilarious.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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