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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

Pace Smith and smith are cut. $26M in savings per @Mmehtanydn
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:56 PM

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Jets moves clear about $25 Million of salary cap space. Bart Scott Still on roster for now. He'd need to take significant pay cut to remain on team

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:35 PM

Bart scott was released as well, saved $32 mil in cap space.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:13 PM

Where do you see that Scott has been released?
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:24 PM

and we have money again. see and eveyrone was saying MT put us in a huge hole. nope MT did great with contracts, he backloaded them with money the players wouldn't ever see
Get it done MT
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:32 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 February 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

and we have money again. see and eveyrone was saying MT put us in a huge hole. nope MT did great with contracts, he backloaded them with money the players wouldn't ever see


Jets are only under the cap now. There isn't that much money to spend.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:47 PM


Rich cimini on espn talking about the cuts
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 February 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

and we have money again. see and eveyrone was saying MT put us in a huge hole. nope MT did great with contracts, he backloaded them with money the players wouldn't ever see


You really think it's that simple? You really think if it was a simple matter of "backloading" contracts that every GM wouldn't do that? Or to take it a step further, every GM would just throw ARod type money at every marquee FA and tell them that "even though I promised you $250M, you'll get it in the 6th year and for the first 5 years you'll be making $5M"? No. What Tanny did in order to backload contracts is he made certain years guaranteed. Why else would players agree to contracts that are backloaded? They're not stupid. This is why we're stuck with Sanchez at over $8M next season. Tanny created money today by guaranteeing money tomorrow... well the future is here and even though we just got $32M of cap room, we're actually only $10M over... which won't be enough to sign some of our guys.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

NEW YORK (AP) -- As the New York Jets began their salary-cap purge Tuesday,
The Jets cleared about $31 million in salary cap space by cutting veteran linebackers Bart Scott and Calvin Pace and three other players. Safety Eric Smith, backup offensive lineman Jason Smith, and tight end Josh Baker also were released Tuesday. The moves were expected because New York entered the offseason more than $20 million over the cap for the 2013 season

Scott was due to make $6.9 million next season, and saves the Jets $7.1 million on the cap with his release. There's a chance Scott could come back at a lesser salary, but Demario Davis, the team's third-round draft pick out of Arkansas State last year, is expected to slide into Scott's inside linebacker role opposite David Harris.
Pace, a 2003 first-round pick by Arizona, spent his first five seasons with the Cardinals before signing a six-year deal with the Jets in 2008. He had seven sacks in his first season in New York, and eight the following year, but never became the dominant pass rusher the Jets envisioned.
He struggled with various injuries and his role changed at times, limiting him to 13 sacks - including just three last season - in the last three years. The 32-year-old Pace has 42 career sacks, and played mostly at outside linebacker for the Jets.
Bryan Thomas, the team's other starting outside linebacker, is also a free agent and might not be re-signed.
Jason Smith was acquired from St. Louis shortly before the season opener when the Rams and Jets swapped struggling right tackles. New York sent Wayne Hunter to the Rams.
Smith, the No. 2 overall pick in 2009, was a backup all season to Austin Howard. He came in as an extra blocker or as a jumbo tight end, and his release - because of a roster bonus of $11.25 million due to him - was expected. He saves the Jets $12 million in salary cap space.

Eric Smith has been with the Jets since 2006, when they drafted him in the third round. He was an occasional starter at safety, including 14 games in 2011, and also was a special teams standout.
Baker played for the Jets in 2011, making three receptions. He went on injured reserve after injuring his right knee last August and did not play in 2012.
The Jets have 12 players scheduled to become unrestricted free agents next month, including safeties LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell, running back Shonn Greene, tight end Dustin Keller, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, defensive lineman Mike DeVito and offensive linemen Brandon Moore and Matt Slauson.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 February 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

You really think it's that simple? You really think if it was a simple matter of "backloading" contracts that every GM wouldn't do that? Or to take it a step further, every GM would just throw ARod type money at every marquee FA and tell them that "even though I promised you $250M, you'll get it in the 6th year and for the first 5 years you'll be making $5M"? No. What Tanny did in order to backload contracts is he made certain years guaranteed. Why else would players agree to contracts that are backloaded? They're not stupid. This is why we're stuck with Sanchez at over $8M next season. Tanny created money today by guaranteeing money tomorrow... well the future is here and even though we just got $32M of cap room, we're actually only $10M over... which won't be enough to sign some of our guys.


Spot on. A dollar is made of 100 pennies no matter how good you are at dividing it. This year will not be a big FA signing year for us. I also can see us renogotiating some other contracts to make more room but we really need to start killing it in the drafts and stop trying to make big splashes.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 19 February 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Spot on. A dollar is made of 100 pennies no matter how good you are at dividing it. This year will not be a big FA signing year for us. I also can see us renogotiating some other contracts to make more room but we really need to start killing it in the drafts and stop trying to make big splashes.


Is it likely rex will be given an even worst roster then last year
then get fired next off season?
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:30 PM

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Is it likely rex will be given an even worst roster then last year
then get fired next off season?


Yup and Rex knows this. That's why he made a mini shitstorm 6 weeks ago and said that if the front office doesn't commit to improving the offense he'd rather get fired this offseason. If I were him, I'd be very concerned about the OL. Both Gs are UFA and we have nothing behind them.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:01 PM

Tebow will also be traded or released. That will clear another 2.5 million. We should probably have around 10 million to spend when it is all said and done.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:39 AM

Next big step is to restructure Harris.
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