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ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:06 PM) but that was such a hard game to watch with the O being non-existent for 3/4 of the game
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:07 PM) and WTF was Marshall thinking when he pitched it
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:22 PM) Time to SQUISH THE FISH in the Land of Fish 'n Chips next Sunday
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:23 PM) Dolphins got their teeth knocked in by Buffalo
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:32 PM) Is everyone so embarrassed with this Loss that they aren't bothering logging on?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:32 PM) Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:05 PM) f*** US
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:23 PM) AHHHHHHH the jets are 1-4 when I go see them but the Giants are 4-0 when I see them!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:23 PM) why of why!!!!!!!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 11:07 AM) i was too pissed after the game.
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 01:53 PM) I'm not to worried after one loss. The Eagles were mere prepared and just out performed us. They are not the better team. Hopefully this can be a wake up call for us going to play the Phinz.
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 01:54 PM) I still see us as a 9-10 win team. Us making the playoffs will be dependent on how the wild card shoes up. Pats look amazing so far. Better than last year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:17 PM) yeah i think we are still a playoff team. the AFC isn't looking too strong. the pats look by far the best in the NFL bout outside of them, indy, denver, bal, all don't look good.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:17 PM) pitt lost ben, could cost them the divison
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:18 PM) right now it's den, indy, cincy, and NE to take the divisons and we'll be fighting for WC spots with pitt, oak, buff, and KC. I don't think Oak is good enough to win more then 7 games so us, buff, pitt and KC will be fighting for 2 spots IMO
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:28 PM) Steelers could be out with the qb injury. I dont expect him back anytime soon. he is tough though so who knows maybe they will shoot him up with pain killers in the knee and fit him with a steel knee brace. The Raiders dont look bad either and The Chargers have a history of pulling a rabbit out of their a$$ in December.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:32 PM) The Raiders may be a question mark but Carr is good and they have a legit rb. The only ones Im counting out right now are the Browns. Titans, Jags, Ravens, Texans, Dolphins in the AFC. to early to tell for the rest of the teams
Jetsman05 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:09 PM) painkillers and a steel brace
Jetsman05 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:09 PM) f*** ya
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:21 PM) bionic knee, make him robo-ben
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:47 PM) Yeah its not likely to happen but I'm pretty sure Ben has wore those steeal knee braces before and played. I'm sure you have seen them. Even a few running backs have used them. They basically only let the knee pivot back and not forward or to the sides. They do limit some range of motion but if its a sprain he can uses a brace and play if he can trot or run at all without damaging it further
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 04:02 PM) I actually have one of those steel pivot braces myself but its older and nowhere advanced as what they where in the NFL. I sprained my knee like 6 or 7 years back and the brace I have is two steel bars connected to a circular steel pivot. One on each side of the brace. Covered in padding that goes completely around the knee. The pad it self is is padded and a stretchable material around the steel and it has steel rung that Velcro straps fit through then strap to the Velcro in front. Its made to wear on bare skin or over pants. On bare skin its more stable but your skin gets raw in just one day. Works so so over pants and doesnt cause the skin to get sore but also the brace moves around some.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 04:08 PM) They actually work really good. My right knee hurt like hell and was limping when I took off the brace but when I wore it most of the pain went away and I could even run with it on as long as I didn't tweak my knee to the sides at all. they work really good but aren't perfect. Just saying that they do help so if Ben has any mobility and can put normal weight on his knee he can play with a brace
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 06:54 PM) I see Rob is writing books in the banter again
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 06:55 PM) meanwhile the Bears are having a fire sale. Do they have a RT
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 07:05 PM) Well I sure hope he comes back soon. Im screwed. Down to Palmer in a 2 qb active each week money league. Lost Coleman Falcons rb to broken ribs, have Eddie Lacy Banged up. Drafted Gurley as a backup but he isn't playing yet. 4 max rb`s per team So screwed on rbs.Tried to start Crowell didnt work out to well..... 3 max qb`s per team Roethlesburger and Romo are down. started 201 until this week I lost bad. And for the forseeable future my team is f*cked
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 07:06 PM) meant 2-0 until this week now 2-1 and probably going on a losing streak
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:03 PM) 1 more game until we get Sheldon Richardson back on the DL, IMO hes our best defensive linemen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:04 PM) Ryan Fitzpatrick is awful, constantly underthrowing on the deep passes. WRs would have a step and have to go backwards for it
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:04 PM) Fitzpatrick is a quality backup, but shouldn't be starting for a full season
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 September 2015 - 10:58 AM) I think we need Rich back big time
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:41 PM) Yeah we do but the defense took the Eagles offense to lightly as shown by shutting them down after they were up 24-7. We need Decker and Ivory back more. Especially Decker so Marshall isn't double and triple teamed
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:42 PM) With Decker back it will open up the run game and screen pass runs more even if we don't have Ivory. After Marshall none of the other Wr's are consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:46 PM) And I was right and wrong about Ben . I thought he had a knee brace on before playing qb in the NFL but it apparently was another qb. On NFL Live they say Ben is out estimated 4-6 weeks but he said he will be wearing one of those braces I mentioned and said he never wore one before. As long as he doesn't tweak the knee by lie hits or from sacks he should be fine Abington with a brace when he comes back
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:46 PM) Meant low hits
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:47 PM) And playing not Abington....damn auto correct on iPad
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 September 2015 - 12:15 PM) We should be getting Eric Decker back this week
santana Icon : (01 October 2015 - 07:39 PM) VICK = $$
santana Icon : (01 October 2015 - 10:49 PM) Tucker = $$
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 October 2015 - 11:13 AM) Ivory is full go for this week, big news
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 October 2015 - 11:13 AM) Hopefully Decker can play as well
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 October 2015 - 03:32 PM) We need Decker
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 07:05 AM) Decker and Ivory are both ACTIVE!!!!!
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 07:45 AM) Just 45 min till kickoff
santana Icon : (Today, 07:56 AM) Wake up bitches
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Will The Jets Switch To A 4-3?

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

I believe schemes have a shelf life, they are only superior as long as everyone else isn't doing it. Two things happen when the majority of the league starts running a particular scheme:

1 - Teams learn how to prepare and game plan for the scheme, and they play against it more often so they learn how to combat it better.

2 - More teams are drafting/signing the players required for that system, making getting those players much more difficult.

Before the 3-4 became so popular, tweeners had no home in the NFL. They were too big and unathletic for OLBs, and too small to hold up as DEs. Along comes the 3-4 and now these are highly sought after elite difference makers. Early 3-4 teams were picking up these difference makers late in the draft or even undrafted.

Problem is, now everyone wants the players. 3-4 teams want tweeners and oversized NTs who can't rush the passer but demand double teams. We've seen these previously poorly regarded NTs be drafted higher and higher every year.

Dontari Poe was drafted 11th overall last year simply because he was big and strong. Despite his lack of solid tape and production, teams just need these players so they start reaching.

But, with the 3-4 become more popular...4-3 players become less sought after. Would the Jets be wise to move to a more base 4-3?

They already seem to have more 4-3 pieces than 3-4 with the current roster cuts. Bart Scott and Calvin Pace were 3-4 players, and they're now gone. The team doesn't even have a starting caliber 3-4 OLB on the roster. Take a look at some of their front 7 players below:

Muhammad Wilkerson - DE/DT
Quinton Coples - DE
Sione Pouha - NT
Kenrick Ellis - NT
Damon Harrison - NT

David Harris - MLB/ILB
Demario Davis - OLB/ILB

Quinton Coples, Demario Davis, and David Harris are arguably better or at least of equal value in a 4-3. Pouha, Ellis, and Harrison are more strictly 3-4 players...and Wilkerson is probably more suited for a 3-4, though I imagine he is good enough to succeed in either scheme.

Would it be easier to find a staring OLB and pass rushing DE for the 4-3? Or two blue chip, elite 3-4 OLB pass rushers? Also, is Coples ceiling higher in a 4-3 than Wilkerson's in a 3-4?

3-4 Lineup

? - Davis - Harris - ?

Coples - Pouha/Ellis - Wilkerson

4-3 Lineup

Davis - Harris - ?

Coples - Pouha - Wilkerson/Ellis - Wilkerson/?
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

The Jets rarely run a strict 3-4 defense, they play multiple fronts and use a lot of 4 down lines. they play everything, so they can take players and they will play them to their strengths. every team runs a spread in our division, so the Jets play even less 3-4 in those games.
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