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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

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@BrianCoz - In Jets news, QB Mark Sanchez began working out with Jeff Garcia today in Calif. learning Mornhinweg's offense. #NYJ

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

Sanchez needs to be done in New York. Every game I went to the crowd hated him more and more each time. If he's declared the starter next year the fans are going to go apeshit (not like that matters with personnel decisions)
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:52 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 06 March 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Sanchez needs to be done in New York. Every game I went to the crowd hated him more and more each time. If he's declared the starter next year the fans are going to go apeshit (not like that matters with personnel decisions)


in all fairness, fans are usually too emotional and rarely know whats best for the team.

AT this point he's the best QB we have (tebow sucks and please stop the mcelroy crap, he sucks too) and he's working hard at learning a new offense (his 3rd different one in 3 years) we finally have a proven good OC for the 1st time in over 10+ years. we'll draft a QB that can compete with mark in the future, but for this seaosn i doubt we'll finad anyone better tehn sanchez sadly
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:06 PM

At this point in time, Sanchez will win a QB battle and be our QB.

I'll be fine with it.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:17 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 06 March 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

in all fairness, fans are usually too emotional and rarely know whats best for the team.

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I am not a big Sanchez supporter at this point but I do believe he is better than most of the FA that are availible. He had doo doo to work with last year and an OC that should be coaching high school ball and tried to carry this team which he can't do. He is not that kind of QB.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:52 PM

Sanchez sucks, but who is really out there to get at QB? David Garrard would be a solid start, he probably can't stay healthy though. Marty is the best OC we have had in a long time, hes good with QBs and understands them. I definitely think we see an improvement over last season at the position, can't get any worse than that really. Have to add some better skill players though.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:46 PM

I wonder if jamarcus russel is also there

they probably go out afterwards for tacos and shots of tequila
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:31 AM

Please if Sanchez goes on two game winning streak to open the season- all is forgiven.
I think we are the only fans that want to hate our players. He's done some good stuff while in a Jets uniform, we're stuck with him one more year.
I'm gonna pull for him to do well, because that means our team will do well. All this hate just clouds the real issue, Sparano sucked.
If Sanchez falls on his face again, he's dead to me.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:22 AM

View PostDamonWB, on 07 March 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

Please if Sanchez goes on two game winning streak to open the season- all is forgiven.
I think we are the only fans that want to hate our players. He's done some good stuff while in a Jets uniform, we're stuck with him one more year.
I'm gonna pull for him to do well, because that means our team will do well. All this hate just clouds the real issue, Sparano sucked.
If Sanchez falls on his face again, he's dead to me.


Lol its sad but true. we have so many revis haters. you don't see lions fans hating calvin johnson ot cards fans hating larry fitzgerald. Jet fans like ot be pissed at eveyrone for nothing
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 06 March 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Sanchez sucks, but who is really out there to get at QB? David Garrard would be a solid start, he probably can't stay healthy though. Marty is the best OC we have had in a long time, hes good with QBs and understands them. I definitely think we see an improvement over last season at the position, can't get any worse than that really. Have to add some better skill players though.

I disagree that Garrard would be a solid start. The only FA that would make sense to me is Matt Moore. I agree 100% we need more talent and depth. Thats why I am not on the sign a FA QB wagon. We need that money for other positions. Hopefully Hill can catch on quickly this year and stay healthy.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 March 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

I disagree that Garrard would be a solid start. The only FA that would make sense to me is Matt Moore. I agree 100% we need more talent and depth. Thats why I am not on the sign a FA QB wagon. We need that money for other positions. Hopefully Hill can catch on quickly this year and stay healthy.

idk why people love Matt Moore so much, he was sstruggling in Miami with the WCO. Garrard was outplaying him until he got injured. Moore is also a fumble machine.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 07 March 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

idk why people love Matt Moore so much, he was sstruggling in Miami with the WCO. Garrard was outplaying him until he got injured. Moore is also a fumble machine.


Thats your opinion. From the games in preseason I watched Moore looked like an average guy just like Garrard. In the WCO he started 2 games and did not fumble once. Completed 58% with no picks while Tannehill threw 13 picks and fumbled 9 times. He fumbled in Sparonos BS system behind a horrid O-line trying to throw down field while getting blasted by D-lineman. Its hard to compare the two and they are probably pretty equal. Moore is younger and has some WCO experience. More of a traditional QB. I just think he is a better fit.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:50 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 07 March 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Thats your opinion. From the games in preseason I watched Moore looked like an average guy just like Garrard. In the WCO he started 2 games and did not fumble once. Completed 58% with no picks while Tannehill threw 13 picks and fumbled 9 times. He fumbled in Sparonos BS system behind a horrid O-line trying to throw down field while getting blasted by D-lineman. Its hard to compare the two and they are probably pretty equal. Moore is younger and has some WCO experience. More of a traditional QB. I just think he is a better fit.



He didn't start 2 games, he played in 1 game vs us last season. And the season he did start for the Dolphins he would have fumbled near 20 times if he started every game, hes one of the only QBs that have a fumble rate higher than Sanchez.

Moore struggled in preseason, he completed 39% of his passes, 0 TD 2 INT, and had a 37 QB rating
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 07 March 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

He didn't start 2 games, he played in 1 game vs us last season. And the season he did start for the Dolphins he would have fumbled near 20 times if he started every game, hes one of the only QBs that have a fumble rate higher than Sanchez.

Moore struggled in preseason, he completed 39% of his passes, 0 TD 2 INT, and had a 37 QB rating

I got that from his stat page on nfl.com. Either way Garrard Is not any better. I just don't want to get into a 20 page conversation about two scrub QBs. How did he get injured?
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:46 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 07 March 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

He didn't start 2 games, he played in 1 game vs us last season. And the season he did start for the Dolphins he would have fumbled near 20 times if he started every game, hes one of the only QBs that have a fumble rate higher than Sanchez.

Moore struggled in preseason, he completed 39% of his passes, 0 TD 2 INT, and had a 37 QB rating

Doesn't matter anymore he is staying with the phinz
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:21 PM

Sanchez's whole deal is that he did well his first two years and played virtually lights out for most in the postseason those years. His third year, the WR's he depended on were gone & we had issues the the O-line so he was playing scared. This past year....the line improved but Sanchez didn't and he still didn't have any receivers to throw to. Add to that the fact that he's been playing scared the past 2 seasons and that he doesn't even have confidence in himself.

IF the new OC can get him some self confidence back & we can keep B.E. along with Holmes and pray that Hill matures and can actually learn to catch, Sanchez may stand a chance. If he continues to play scared and without self confidence, we may as well bring Pennington back because that's about as successful as we'll be.

McElroy never really got a real shot as a starter so we still don't know what the kid can do. I know that the entire team had a fire lit under them when he was under Center though and played with some passion again. The real question is if he didn't show enough in camp or was he simply not given the opportunity?

I really don't see anyone in FA that can truly come in and compete that will make that much of a difference if we don't get some WR's and maybe someone like when we had Richie Anderson in the backfield that could run & catch.
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