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9:30Am Jets vs Fish over in England. U wot m8?
Smedsthejet Icon : (27 September 2015 - 03:25 PM) That was ugly
Smedsthejet Icon : (27 September 2015 - 03:26 PM) Hopefully the team can put on a better show next week in London!
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:06 PM) the only positive is that the loss was to a NON conference team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:06 PM) but that was such a hard game to watch with the O being non-existent for 3/4 of the game
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:07 PM) and WTF was Marshall thinking when he pitched it
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:22 PM) Time to SQUISH THE FISH in the Land of Fish 'n Chips next Sunday
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:23 PM) Dolphins got their teeth knocked in by Buffalo
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:32 PM) Is everyone so embarrassed with this Loss that they aren't bothering logging on?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:32 PM) Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:05 PM) f*** US
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:23 PM) AHHHHHHH the jets are 1-4 when I go see them but the Giants are 4-0 when I see them!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:23 PM) why of why!!!!!!!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 11:07 AM) i was too pissed after the game.
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 01:53 PM) I'm not to worried after one loss. The Eagles were mere prepared and just out performed us. They are not the better team. Hopefully this can be a wake up call for us going to play the Phinz.
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 01:54 PM) I still see us as a 9-10 win team. Us making the playoffs will be dependent on how the wild card shoes up. Pats look amazing so far. Better than last year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:17 PM) yeah i think we are still a playoff team. the AFC isn't looking too strong. the pats look by far the best in the NFL bout outside of them, indy, denver, bal, all don't look good.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:17 PM) pitt lost ben, could cost them the divison
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:18 PM) right now it's den, indy, cincy, and NE to take the divisons and we'll be fighting for WC spots with pitt, oak, buff, and KC. I don't think Oak is good enough to win more then 7 games so us, buff, pitt and KC will be fighting for 2 spots IMO
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:28 PM) Steelers could be out with the qb injury. I dont expect him back anytime soon. he is tough though so who knows maybe they will shoot him up with pain killers in the knee and fit him with a steel knee brace. The Raiders dont look bad either and The Chargers have a history of pulling a rabbit out of their a$$ in December.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:32 PM) The Raiders may be a question mark but Carr is good and they have a legit rb. The only ones Im counting out right now are the Browns. Titans, Jags, Ravens, Texans, Dolphins in the AFC. to early to tell for the rest of the teams
Jetsman05 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:09 PM) painkillers and a steel brace
Jetsman05 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:09 PM) f*** ya
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:21 PM) bionic knee, make him robo-ben
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:47 PM) Yeah its not likely to happen but I'm pretty sure Ben has wore those steeal knee braces before and played. I'm sure you have seen them. Even a few running backs have used them. They basically only let the knee pivot back and not forward or to the sides. They do limit some range of motion but if its a sprain he can uses a brace and play if he can trot or run at all without damaging it further
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 04:02 PM) I actually have one of those steel pivot braces myself but its older and nowhere advanced as what they where in the NFL. I sprained my knee like 6 or 7 years back and the brace I have is two steel bars connected to a circular steel pivot. One on each side of the brace. Covered in padding that goes completely around the knee. The pad it self is is padded and a stretchable material around the steel and it has steel rung that Velcro straps fit through then strap to the Velcro in front. Its made to wear on bare skin or over pants. On bare skin its more stable but your skin gets raw in just one day. Works so so over pants and doesnt cause the skin to get sore but also the brace moves around some.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 04:08 PM) They actually work really good. My right knee hurt like hell and was limping when I took off the brace but when I wore it most of the pain went away and I could even run with it on as long as I didn't tweak my knee to the sides at all. they work really good but aren't perfect. Just saying that they do help so if Ben has any mobility and can put normal weight on his knee he can play with a brace
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 06:54 PM) I see Rob is writing books in the banter again
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 06:55 PM) meanwhile the Bears are having a fire sale. Do they have a RT
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 07:05 PM) Well I sure hope he comes back soon. Im screwed. Down to Palmer in a 2 qb active each week money league. Lost Coleman Falcons rb to broken ribs, have Eddie Lacy Banged up. Drafted Gurley as a backup but he isn't playing yet. 4 max rb`s per team So screwed on rbs.Tried to start Crowell didnt work out to well..... 3 max qb`s per team Roethlesburger and Romo are down. started 201 until this week I lost bad. And for the forseeable future my team is f*cked
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 07:06 PM) meant 2-0 until this week now 2-1 and probably going on a losing streak
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:03 PM) 1 more game until we get Sheldon Richardson back on the DL, IMO hes our best defensive linemen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:04 PM) Ryan Fitzpatrick is awful, constantly underthrowing on the deep passes. WRs would have a step and have to go backwards for it
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:04 PM) Fitzpatrick is a quality backup, but shouldn't be starting for a full season
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 September 2015 - 10:58 AM) I think we need Rich back big time
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:41 PM) Yeah we do but the defense took the Eagles offense to lightly as shown by shutting them down after they were up 24-7. We need Decker and Ivory back more. Especially Decker so Marshall isn't double and triple teamed
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:42 PM) With Decker back it will open up the run game and screen pass runs more even if we don't have Ivory. After Marshall none of the other Wr's are consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:46 PM) And I was right and wrong about Ben . I thought he had a knee brace on before playing qb in the NFL but it apparently was another qb. On NFL Live they say Ben is out estimated 4-6 weeks but he said he will be wearing one of those braces I mentioned and said he never wore one before. As long as he doesn't tweak the knee by lie hits or from sacks he should be fine Abington with a brace when he comes back
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:46 PM) Meant low hits
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:47 PM) And playing not Abington....damn auto correct on iPad
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 September 2015 - 12:15 PM) We should be getting Eric Decker back this week
santana Icon : (01 October 2015 - 07:39 PM) VICK = $$
santana Icon : (01 October 2015 - 10:49 PM) Tucker = $$
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 October 2015 - 11:13 AM) Ivory is full go for this week, big news
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 October 2015 - 11:13 AM) Hopefully Decker can play as well
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 October 2015 - 03:32 PM) We need Decker
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:01 PM

A look at New York's philosophy, team needs and a key free-agent move

Team philosophies

Offense -- This will be an interesting offense to watch as the season unfolds. We know that Rex Ryan wanted to have a run-oriented offense a year ago to complement his aggressive defense, but he did not have the personnel to get it done. Under former coordinator Tony Sparano this offense seemed to have little creativity and there was no flow to it. Ryan replaced Sparano with ex-Eagles coach Marty Mornhinweg -- which is an interesting choice because he is a West Coast proponent and Philadelphia's offense was probably 60-40 in the pass-run ratio.

However, what a lot of people don't realize is that Mornhinweg likes to run the ball a lot more than most West Coast offenses, so the Jets will likely have more balance than expected. He will throw a lot of underneath and crossing routes with occasional deep shots off play-action and misdirection -- and screen plays will have a role in this offense. But most importantly this will be a smarter, assignment-oriented offense.

Defense -- Dennis Thurman is the new coordinator, but this is still Ryan's defense and the scheme will be the same. It will be a basic 3-4 package with some 4-3 looks to occasionally fit better with the personnel. As much as Ryan has a reputation as a blitz-happy coach, the Jets do not attack as much as you might think; when they can drop seven defenders into coverage they are better off. They will play games up front, will line up in a lot of tight man schemes on the back end and they even have a 4-2-5 look that they can use as their base package at times. We might even see some of Buddy Ryan's old 4-6 schemes with some overload looks. They will confuse offenses with different alignments before the snap.

Team needs

1. Outside linebacker -- In this 3-4 scheme the pressure is expected to come from the outside linebackers, but to Ryan's credit he has done it for years with smoke and mirrors. Can you imagine how much more productive this defense would be with edge pressure to complement its solid cover corners? The only real quality player across this entire front is defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson. With so many needs on both sides of the ball and limited money to spend, the Jets should stay with their only recent recipe for success, which is to continue to build their defense and bring along the offense as fast as possible, which won't be easy. They Jets have almost nothing at this position right now and they need at least one, and possibly two, impact starters.

2. Quarterback -- This position has disaster written all over it and it doesn't look as though there are a lot of easy answers to fix it. Can the Jets live with Mark Sanchez for another year while they fix other areas of this team, or do they bite the bullet now and try a quarterback makeover in 2013? With a sputtering run game and limited passing weapons, the challenge for a productive quarterback position is huge. You would think that the Jets would much prefer finding a quality unrestricted veteran to either compete with Sanchez or replace him, but the financial restraints will make that tough to do.

3. Safety -- The back end of this defense will require some serious attention in free agency and the draft, especially with the Jets now actively shopping Darrelle Revis. The coaches got everything they expected out of veteran starters free safety LaRon Landry and strong safety Yeremiah Bell, but both guys are unrestricted free agents and both could be gone. Bell is 35 years old and near the end of his career and Landry will likely leave for a more lucrative deal than the contract the Jets can offer him.

4. Wide receiver -- This offense has virtually no playmakers for whoever is at quarterback, and the vertical passing game is almost nonexistent. There are names in this unit, but the Jets need a No. 1 speed receiver and none of their current receivers on the outside can create separation.

5. Offensive line -- Two-fifths of the line, center Nick Mangold and left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson, is solid, but after that the Jets need youth and depth at either guard or right tackle. This unit is closer to needing a makeover than most people realize.

6. Nose tackle -- Age and injuries have caught up to starter Sione Pouha, and backup Kenrick Ellis failed to impress when he replaced him. This is a key position in this defense and right now the coaches can't count on either player.

-- Gary Horton

Key free-agent move

Victor Butler, LB, UFA

The Jets are in the midst of overhauling their roster and are constricted by a number of poorly constructed contracts that leave them limited in what they can spend this offseason.

Butler isn't a high-profile name, but he's a player ready to make starting contributions after playing behind DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer in Dallas for Rex Ryan's twin brother, Rob.

Butler has good quickness off the edge and was productive in a rotational role down the stretch in 2012, finishing with three sacks and three forced fumbles in the final nine games of the season.

He's just 25 years old and would give the Jets a natural rush player to help build their defense around. Quinton Coples should be improved in his second year, and the Jets will count on the continued development of other youngsters along the defensive front.

There's no shortage of offensive needs for the Jets, but landing a player in Butler who can help bolster a defense that slipped to 20th in points allowed in 2012 would be a feather in the cap of new GM John Idzik.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:43 AM

Pretty much agree with the whole article. Good post!
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