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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:01 PM

A look at New York's philosophy, team needs and a key free-agent move

Team philosophies

Offense -- This will be an interesting offense to watch as the season unfolds. We know that Rex Ryan wanted to have a run-oriented offense a year ago to complement his aggressive defense, but he did not have the personnel to get it done. Under former coordinator Tony Sparano this offense seemed to have little creativity and there was no flow to it. Ryan replaced Sparano with ex-Eagles coach Marty Mornhinweg -- which is an interesting choice because he is a West Coast proponent and Philadelphia's offense was probably 60-40 in the pass-run ratio.

However, what a lot of people don't realize is that Mornhinweg likes to run the ball a lot more than most West Coast offenses, so the Jets will likely have more balance than expected. He will throw a lot of underneath and crossing routes with occasional deep shots off play-action and misdirection -- and screen plays will have a role in this offense. But most importantly this will be a smarter, assignment-oriented offense.

Defense -- Dennis Thurman is the new coordinator, but this is still Ryan's defense and the scheme will be the same. It will be a basic 3-4 package with some 4-3 looks to occasionally fit better with the personnel. As much as Ryan has a reputation as a blitz-happy coach, the Jets do not attack as much as you might think; when they can drop seven defenders into coverage they are better off. They will play games up front, will line up in a lot of tight man schemes on the back end and they even have a 4-2-5 look that they can use as their base package at times. We might even see some of Buddy Ryan's old 4-6 schemes with some overload looks. They will confuse offenses with different alignments before the snap.

Team needs

1. Outside linebacker -- In this 3-4 scheme the pressure is expected to come from the outside linebackers, but to Ryan's credit he has done it for years with smoke and mirrors. Can you imagine how much more productive this defense would be with edge pressure to complement its solid cover corners? The only real quality player across this entire front is defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson. With so many needs on both sides of the ball and limited money to spend, the Jets should stay with their only recent recipe for success, which is to continue to build their defense and bring along the offense as fast as possible, which won't be easy. They Jets have almost nothing at this position right now and they need at least one, and possibly two, impact starters.

2. Quarterback -- This position has disaster written all over it and it doesn't look as though there are a lot of easy answers to fix it. Can the Jets live with Mark Sanchez for another year while they fix other areas of this team, or do they bite the bullet now and try a quarterback makeover in 2013? With a sputtering run game and limited passing weapons, the challenge for a productive quarterback position is huge. You would think that the Jets would much prefer finding a quality unrestricted veteran to either compete with Sanchez or replace him, but the financial restraints will make that tough to do.

3. Safety -- The back end of this defense will require some serious attention in free agency and the draft, especially with the Jets now actively shopping Darrelle Revis. The coaches got everything they expected out of veteran starters free safety LaRon Landry and strong safety Yeremiah Bell, but both guys are unrestricted free agents and both could be gone. Bell is 35 years old and near the end of his career and Landry will likely leave for a more lucrative deal than the contract the Jets can offer him.

4. Wide receiver -- This offense has virtually no playmakers for whoever is at quarterback, and the vertical passing game is almost nonexistent. There are names in this unit, but the Jets need a No. 1 speed receiver and none of their current receivers on the outside can create separation.

5. Offensive line -- Two-fifths of the line, center Nick Mangold and left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson, is solid, but after that the Jets need youth and depth at either guard or right tackle. This unit is closer to needing a makeover than most people realize.

6. Nose tackle -- Age and injuries have caught up to starter Sione Pouha, and backup Kenrick Ellis failed to impress when he replaced him. This is a key position in this defense and right now the coaches can't count on either player.

-- Gary Horton

Key free-agent move

Victor Butler, LB, UFA

The Jets are in the midst of overhauling their roster and are constricted by a number of poorly constructed contracts that leave them limited in what they can spend this offseason.

Butler isn't a high-profile name, but he's a player ready to make starting contributions after playing behind DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer in Dallas for Rex Ryan's twin brother, Rob.

Butler has good quickness off the edge and was productive in a rotational role down the stretch in 2012, finishing with three sacks and three forced fumbles in the final nine games of the season.

He's just 25 years old and would give the Jets a natural rush player to help build their defense around. Quinton Coples should be improved in his second year, and the Jets will count on the continued development of other youngsters along the defensive front.

There's no shortage of offensive needs for the Jets, but landing a player in Butler who can help bolster a defense that slipped to 20th in points allowed in 2012 would be a feather in the cap of new GM John Idzik.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:43 AM

Pretty much agree with the whole article. Good post!
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