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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:30 PM) Fire idzik!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 01:45 PM) Best part of last night was Wayne Chrebet going onto the Ring of Honor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:04 PM) u think our oline is a strength? did u not see geno getting killed out there?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:04 PM) LG is a shit position, colon is old and nto much left in the tank, brick and mangold are in decline, and brent is a below average RT at best
santana Icon : (Today, 04:26 PM) initiation is you have to high 5.... 5 pats fans in the span of a week
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 04:43 PM) i wonder how ronny is doing as a fins fan lol.
santana Icon : (Today, 04:55 PM) I think he got sick of being an nfl fan all together
santana Icon : (Today, 04:55 PM) but thats just speculation
santana Icon : (Today, 04:55 PM) I know its starting to make me sick
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) bad refs excessive commercials
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) shitty services available to stream it
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) loads of penalties
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) annoying replay system
santana Icon : (Today, 04:57 PM) ambiguous rules where the ref has to fucking explain everything to you
santana Icon : (Today, 04:58 PM) oh and the constant violence out side of the game. domestic abuse. murders. dui cases. gun charges. young players wanting to smoke weed with less repercussion. veteran players wanting less hgh testing to stay healthy and in the league
santana Icon : (Today, 04:59 PM) BUY BUD LIGHT GUYS AND A TACOMA NATIONWIDE IS ON YOUR SIDE PAPAJOHNS DISCOUNT DOUBLE fuck you you will buy it!
santana Icon : (Today, 04:59 PM) end rant
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 05:08 PM) lol NFL is a big money business, sometimes to run something that big, your gonna have some a-holes involved. any big company is like that
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 05:10 PM) i might not wanna read this then http://nyjetsfan.com...showtopic=38459
santana Icon : (Today, 05:11 PM) yeah heard about it
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 05:47 PM) Ellis Lankster has been cut by the JETS
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 05:49 PM) Phillip Adams should of been cut not Lankster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 05:49 PM) IMO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 05:49 PM) especially since Adams got fooled on that TD last night
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 06:02 PM) and still I'm not a mod WTF?!?!?!?!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:09 PM) didn't pass initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:51 PM) really? They cut Lankster? Phillip Adams doesn't belong on a NFL roster, that guy is just terrible. At least Lankster is a ST stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:52 PM) why not sign a Champ Bailey or Asante Samuel, at least those guys know how to play. Phillip Adams just embarrassed himself on that one TD play, like that is cut worthy.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:53 PM) Idk if it's Idzik or the order is from Woody, but the Jets are too f***ing cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:14 PM) If we can get Milber healthy and playing, we would be in better shape. He would be our #1 CB and then we have more depth. I don't think Allen and Walls are that bad.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 07:21 PM) I believe they are trying to roll cap space into next year.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 07:21 PM) Meanwhile back in hazard county....
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 07:34 PM) f*** initiation just make it fuckin happen
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 07:34 PM) :ranting3:
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:48 PM) Gg03 wants to be overpaid
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 07:52 PM) Greedy little street thug!
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 08:20 PM) yeah cause getting 0 is going to help me join a country club
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 08:21 PM) I just want the title of moderator
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 08:21 PM) make it happen
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 08:21 PM) NOW!!!! I've waited 10 freakin years
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:22 PM) how about honorary deputy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:08 PM) Cowboys' Morris Claiborne skips practice after benching
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:08 PM) We should try and trade for him if it comes to that
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

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Draft insider Tony Pauline warns to "mark down" UCLA RB Johnathan Franklin as a second-round target by the Jets.
The team is "very high on the RB and a terrific fit for Mornhinweg's offense," Pauline tweeted. Along with the Jets, Pauline listed the Cincinnati Bengals, Miami Dolphins, St. Louis Rams and San Diego Chargers as possible destinations.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

Touched the ball a TON in his college career. I like him though.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:33 PM

One of my man crushes...I'd pee myself if they drafted him. He probably isn't a long term answer...given how much mileage he has on those legs already.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:57 PM

Pass. We can find a RB on the scrap heap. I liked what Powell did and we can always switch McKnight from CB to RB. I heard he played a little RB in college.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 March 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Pass. We can find a RB on the scrap heap. I liked what Powell did and we can always switch McKnight from CB to RB. I heard he played a little RB in college.


I realize the offensive coaching hasn't been the best, but I think McKnight would have gotten his shot by now if he was any good. People need to let go of this idea of him becoming a big piece of the offense.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:30 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 13 March 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

I realize the offensive coaching hasn't been the best, but I think McKnight would have gotten his shot by now if he was any good. People need to let go of this idea of him becoming a big piece of the offense.


No one is expecting him to be a big piece of anything. He's a 2nd or 3rd back on our roster.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:49 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 March 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

No one is expecting him to be a big piece of anything. He's a 2nd or 3rd back on our roster.


2nd running backs are a big part of NFL offenses nowadays.

McKnight is a kick returner.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:59 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 13 March 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

2nd running backs are a big part of NFL offenses nowadays.

McKnight is a kick returner.


Yea you're right. With holes on the D line, O line, 1 starting LBer, no safeties, possibly without Revis, probably without Keller... lets draft a backup RB with our 2nd round pick! GTFOH.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:30 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 March 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

Yea you're right. With holes on the D line, O line, 1 starting LBer, no safeties, possibly without Revis, probably without Keller... lets draft a backup RB with our 2nd round pick! GTFOH.


1. I don't think anyone is suggesting he would be the backup. Sounds like the team/Marty M likes him as a starter, from the report.
2. Show me where I said I wanted Franklin in the second round. All I said is McKnight sucks and shouldn't be considered as part of the RB solution.

Your act is stale.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:22 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

1. I don't think anyone is suggesting he would be the backup. Sounds like the team/Marty M likes him as a starter, from the report.
2. Show me where I said I wanted Franklin in the second round. All I said is McKnight sucks and shouldn't be considered as part of the RB solution.

Your act is stale.


I think that Powell is fine as a starter. That's why I mentioned McKnight. When I did, you said this gem:

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

2nd running backs are a big part of NFL offenses nowadays.


Which means that you think that we should go out and spend (either money or valuable draft picks) on a 2nd RB even though we have McKnight and holes at every position.

When I replied that we shouldn't draft this kid with the 2nd rounder, I was replying to the topic post which clearly says that the Jets are targeting him with the 2nd round pick. It doesn't matter what you think, I'm replying to the topic. Hop off and stop trolling.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:16 PM

Yeah it seems the rest of the NFL is catching up with me :beach:

When Franklin was pegged as a late 3rd/4th rounder I thought he was awesome value. However, as a 2nd rounder that might be a little too rich for the Jets.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I think that Powell is fine as a starter. That's why I mentioned McKnight. When I did, you said this gem:

Which means that you think that we should go out and spend (either money or valuable draft picks) on a 2nd RB even though we have McKnight and holes at every position.

When I replied that we shouldn't draft this kid with the 2nd rounder, I was replying to the topic post which clearly says that the Jets are targeting him with the 2nd round pick. It doesn't matter what you think, I'm replying to the topic. Hop off and stop trolling.


And when I replied to you, I was replying to your thought process that McKnight is a good 2nd RB. He sucks.

You're right, the Jets have holes at every position... including RB.

And yes, 2nd RBs are important in today's NFL. And if the Jets draft this kid in the 2nd round, then they have a solid 2nd RB in Powell. As it currently stands, Powell is not the answer at starting RB in a West Coast Offense, IMO.

I'm glad you have my thought process figured out better than I do, though. And I'm the troll.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:34 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

As it currently stands, Powell is not the answer at starting RB in a West Coast Offense, IMO.


Powell is a better RB than Ducasse is a G, than Ellis is at NT, than McIntyre and Ricky Sapp are at OLB, than Davis is at ILB and than the absolutely nothing we have at safety. But you're right tho. Lets draft another RB in the 2nd round so the squaky wheel can get the grease.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:41 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Powell is a better RB than Ducasse is a G, than Ellis is at NT, than McIntyre and Ricky Sapp are at OLB, than Davis is at ILB and than the absolutely nothing we have at safety. But you're right tho. Lets draft another RB in the 2nd round so the squaky wheel can get the grease.


Nowhere did I say they should draft a RB in the second round. I'm merely saying I understand where they're coming from, because Powell is not a starter and McKnight sucks. Stop putting words in my mouth.

If they don't sign someone in FA, they will be drafting a RB at some point in the draft, though. You can bank on that.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Nowhere did I say they should draft a RB in the second round. I'm merely saying I understand where they're coming from, because Powell is not a starter and McKnight sucks. Stop putting words in my mouth.

If they don't sign someone in FA, they will be drafting a RB at some point in the draft, though. You can bank on that.


We'll probably be looking at a lot of UDRFA and you can always find a decent RB in that group. We're not going to draft any RBs in the early rounds. Far too many holes to address.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

We'll probably be looking at a lot of UDRFA and you can always find a decent RB in that group. We're not going to draft any RBs in the early rounds. Far too many holes to address.


The new GM/OC combo may want a new starter, in which case it would be hard to bank on an UDRFA for that role. Not that it doesn't happen, it's just hard to rely on that.

I could be wrong and they could love Powell. I just don't see it, though.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

The new GM/OC combo may want a new starter, in which case it would be hard to bank on an UDRFA for that role. Not that it doesn't happen, it's just hard to rely on that.

I could be wrong and they could love Powell. I just don't see it, though.


I think that after the ground & pound/Wildcat/Sparano fiasco, Rex has been stripped of any voice as far as the offense goes. I wouldn't be surprised if Morningweh is basically the HC of the OC and Rex is the HC of the defense. Morningweh is making it pretty clear that he's looking for a RB that can catch, and that's not that hard to find. No we're not going to get a DeSean Jackson in the late rounds but you can find a ton of guys who have decent hands. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if the Jets had no plan whatsoever.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

I think that after the ground & pound/Wildcat/Sparano fiasco, Rex has been stripped of any voice as far as the offense goes. I wouldn't be surprised if Morningweh is basically the HC of the OC and Rex is the HC of the defense. Morningweh is making it pretty clear that he's looking for a RB that can catch, and that's not that hard to find. No we're not going to get a DeSean Jackson in the late rounds but you can find a ton of guys who have decent hands. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if the Jets had no plan whatsoever.


Right...ok...

A- Recieving RB's are not that plentiful

B- DeSean Jackson is a WR

C- It's fine to say OL, S, OLB, etc are bigger needs...but its better to draft a guy you think will be a quality player than reach for a need. Especially in the middle rounds.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:55 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 14 March 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Right...ok...

A- Recieving RB's are not that plentiful

B- DeSean Jackson is a WR

C- It's fine to say OL, S, OLB, etc are bigger needs...but its better to draft a guy you think will be a quality player than reach for a need. Especially in the middle rounds.


A. I think there's a good amount of them. I don't view "A RB who can catch" as a special skill. I think it's harder to find a TE who can block and is a good reciever than a RB who can be a good RB and a good pass catcher out of the backfield. No other reason than it's just my opinion.

B. Lesean and Desean... cut me a break. Here, watch this:



C. I think with the amount of holes on this roster, if we draft BPA every round, it will more likely than not fill a need as well.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

A. I think there's a good amount of them. I don't view "A RB who can catch" as a special skill. I think it's harder to find a TE who can block and is a good reciever than a RB who can be a good RB and a good pass catcher out of the backfield. No other reason than it's just my opinion.

B. Lesean and Desean... cut me a break. Here, watch this:



C. I think with the amount of holes on this roster, if we draft BPA every round, it will more likely than not fill a need as well.


Haha yeah I've seen that video...I call my dog smoochie wallace now.

I guess it depends on how you define a "RB who can catch." For Mornhinweg's system, I think you're talking about more than just a RB who can catch dumpoffs. I think you need a RB who can run routes and catch passes downfield, like a WR....and those RB's are rare. How many of those guys are there in the league?

Darren Sproles...Franke Gore...LeSean McCoy...Reggie Bush...Ray Rice?
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