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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:05 PM) NFC south sucks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:06 PM) under 500 team going to win the iv
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:06 PM) for sure now
jetfan4life12 Icon : (Today, 04:18 PM) No 0099 last week we messed up by winning. We couldn't have lost another spot in the draft. Oh and BTW, it's the effing pats!
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:19 PM) Washington won so I belive we are 5 now
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:23 PM) Actually don't we win the tie breaker with Jax? So fourth?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:32 PM) I haven't paid attention to the tiebreakers, I'll wait to see what it looks like after next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:39 PM) Read my DRAFT thread. No we DONT have 4th. Ive been updating it
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) Wow the AFC has 11 teams with 8 wins or more right now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) 12
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) 13 if cle wins next week
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) draft order (1)Wins
(2)Schedule strength (harder schedule strength lower pick not higher)
(3) conference wins)
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:41 PM) HAHA my bad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:42 PM) 11 teams with 8 wins and 12 if cle wins next week
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:51 PM) The draft order isn't like the playoffs. Head to head games are way down on the list. Its clearly listed Wins first then schedule strength then conference wins. Its not hard to do a simple search
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:54 PM) The teams above us that need a QB are the Bucs and maybe Titans
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:54 PM) Zach Mettenberger seems promising, but they could still go QB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:54 PM) The Raiders and Jaguars won't draft QB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:00 PM) Jets interested in Todd Bowles? Not my favorite HC candidate. More of the same for woody...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:03 PM) hire another rookie DC. If we keep Idzik too, I'd be pissed.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:10 PM) Heck the Raiders Buffalo game is the only good game. Colts and Rams getting blown out. I figured the Dallas Indy game would be better
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:11 PM) It would be nice to see the raiders get the win to move up a spot but Im not sure about any of the qbs i this draft so I really dont think it matters
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:13 PM) might be better off rolling the dice and moving down a few spots to get more picks unless there is a solid olinemanworth taking at the 4th or 5th spot
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:14 PM) Id rather the Jets go after Cutler than take a chance on a first round qb this year.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:14 PM) Without Luck, the Colts are trash
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:15 PM) SUCK FOR THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:15 PM) !!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:15 PM) They were trash without manning too.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:16 PM) f*** THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:16 PM) GASP!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:16 PM) How dare u say that
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'm excited to start researching potential draft prospects for us, I have no idea really who the top guys are this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) Look at all the first round top qb draft pick busts over the years. Even most of the analysts arent sure about any of the qbs this year
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I can not believe u could post such a thing about THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'll be more excited if Idzik was fired. I'm interested to see who our next HC is too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:19 PM) Bill cowher and THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT in the Giants rams game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT FIGHT TIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) !!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Leaf , Russell, Harrington,Young, Carr....... All picked with the first 3 picks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:22 PM) Its all hit of miss
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:24 PM) Yeah and thats what Im saying. So you changed your tune now?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) No one believes any of the qbs coming out this year is NFL ready
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

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Draft insider Tony Pauline warns to "mark down" UCLA RB Johnathan Franklin as a second-round target by the Jets.
The team is "very high on the RB and a terrific fit for Mornhinweg's offense," Pauline tweeted. Along with the Jets, Pauline listed the Cincinnati Bengals, Miami Dolphins, St. Louis Rams and San Diego Chargers as possible destinations.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

Touched the ball a TON in his college career. I like him though.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:33 PM

One of my man crushes...I'd pee myself if they drafted him. He probably isn't a long term answer...given how much mileage he has on those legs already.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:57 PM

Pass. We can find a RB on the scrap heap. I liked what Powell did and we can always switch McKnight from CB to RB. I heard he played a little RB in college.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 March 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Pass. We can find a RB on the scrap heap. I liked what Powell did and we can always switch McKnight from CB to RB. I heard he played a little RB in college.


I realize the offensive coaching hasn't been the best, but I think McKnight would have gotten his shot by now if he was any good. People need to let go of this idea of him becoming a big piece of the offense.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:30 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 13 March 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

I realize the offensive coaching hasn't been the best, but I think McKnight would have gotten his shot by now if he was any good. People need to let go of this idea of him becoming a big piece of the offense.


No one is expecting him to be a big piece of anything. He's a 2nd or 3rd back on our roster.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:49 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 March 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

No one is expecting him to be a big piece of anything. He's a 2nd or 3rd back on our roster.


2nd running backs are a big part of NFL offenses nowadays.

McKnight is a kick returner.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:59 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 13 March 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

2nd running backs are a big part of NFL offenses nowadays.

McKnight is a kick returner.


Yea you're right. With holes on the D line, O line, 1 starting LBer, no safeties, possibly without Revis, probably without Keller... lets draft a backup RB with our 2nd round pick! GTFOH.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:30 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 13 March 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

Yea you're right. With holes on the D line, O line, 1 starting LBer, no safeties, possibly without Revis, probably without Keller... lets draft a backup RB with our 2nd round pick! GTFOH.


1. I don't think anyone is suggesting he would be the backup. Sounds like the team/Marty M likes him as a starter, from the report.
2. Show me where I said I wanted Franklin in the second round. All I said is McKnight sucks and shouldn't be considered as part of the RB solution.

Your act is stale.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:22 AM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

1. I don't think anyone is suggesting he would be the backup. Sounds like the team/Marty M likes him as a starter, from the report.
2. Show me where I said I wanted Franklin in the second round. All I said is McKnight sucks and shouldn't be considered as part of the RB solution.

Your act is stale.


I think that Powell is fine as a starter. That's why I mentioned McKnight. When I did, you said this gem:

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

2nd running backs are a big part of NFL offenses nowadays.


Which means that you think that we should go out and spend (either money or valuable draft picks) on a 2nd RB even though we have McKnight and holes at every position.

When I replied that we shouldn't draft this kid with the 2nd rounder, I was replying to the topic post which clearly says that the Jets are targeting him with the 2nd round pick. It doesn't matter what you think, I'm replying to the topic. Hop off and stop trolling.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:16 PM

Yeah it seems the rest of the NFL is catching up with me :beach:

When Franklin was pegged as a late 3rd/4th rounder I thought he was awesome value. However, as a 2nd rounder that might be a little too rich for the Jets.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I think that Powell is fine as a starter. That's why I mentioned McKnight. When I did, you said this gem:

Which means that you think that we should go out and spend (either money or valuable draft picks) on a 2nd RB even though we have McKnight and holes at every position.

When I replied that we shouldn't draft this kid with the 2nd rounder, I was replying to the topic post which clearly says that the Jets are targeting him with the 2nd round pick. It doesn't matter what you think, I'm replying to the topic. Hop off and stop trolling.


And when I replied to you, I was replying to your thought process that McKnight is a good 2nd RB. He sucks.

You're right, the Jets have holes at every position... including RB.

And yes, 2nd RBs are important in today's NFL. And if the Jets draft this kid in the 2nd round, then they have a solid 2nd RB in Powell. As it currently stands, Powell is not the answer at starting RB in a West Coast Offense, IMO.

I'm glad you have my thought process figured out better than I do, though. And I'm the troll.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:34 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

As it currently stands, Powell is not the answer at starting RB in a West Coast Offense, IMO.


Powell is a better RB than Ducasse is a G, than Ellis is at NT, than McIntyre and Ricky Sapp are at OLB, than Davis is at ILB and than the absolutely nothing we have at safety. But you're right tho. Lets draft another RB in the 2nd round so the squaky wheel can get the grease.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:41 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Powell is a better RB than Ducasse is a G, than Ellis is at NT, than McIntyre and Ricky Sapp are at OLB, than Davis is at ILB and than the absolutely nothing we have at safety. But you're right tho. Lets draft another RB in the 2nd round so the squaky wheel can get the grease.


Nowhere did I say they should draft a RB in the second round. I'm merely saying I understand where they're coming from, because Powell is not a starter and McKnight sucks. Stop putting words in my mouth.

If they don't sign someone in FA, they will be drafting a RB at some point in the draft, though. You can bank on that.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Nowhere did I say they should draft a RB in the second round. I'm merely saying I understand where they're coming from, because Powell is not a starter and McKnight sucks. Stop putting words in my mouth.

If they don't sign someone in FA, they will be drafting a RB at some point in the draft, though. You can bank on that.


We'll probably be looking at a lot of UDRFA and you can always find a decent RB in that group. We're not going to draft any RBs in the early rounds. Far too many holes to address.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

We'll probably be looking at a lot of UDRFA and you can always find a decent RB in that group. We're not going to draft any RBs in the early rounds. Far too many holes to address.


The new GM/OC combo may want a new starter, in which case it would be hard to bank on an UDRFA for that role. Not that it doesn't happen, it's just hard to rely on that.

I could be wrong and they could love Powell. I just don't see it, though.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 14 March 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

The new GM/OC combo may want a new starter, in which case it would be hard to bank on an UDRFA for that role. Not that it doesn't happen, it's just hard to rely on that.

I could be wrong and they could love Powell. I just don't see it, though.


I think that after the ground & pound/Wildcat/Sparano fiasco, Rex has been stripped of any voice as far as the offense goes. I wouldn't be surprised if Morningweh is basically the HC of the OC and Rex is the HC of the defense. Morningweh is making it pretty clear that he's looking for a RB that can catch, and that's not that hard to find. No we're not going to get a DeSean Jackson in the late rounds but you can find a ton of guys who have decent hands. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if the Jets had no plan whatsoever.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

I think that after the ground & pound/Wildcat/Sparano fiasco, Rex has been stripped of any voice as far as the offense goes. I wouldn't be surprised if Morningweh is basically the HC of the OC and Rex is the HC of the defense. Morningweh is making it pretty clear that he's looking for a RB that can catch, and that's not that hard to find. No we're not going to get a DeSean Jackson in the late rounds but you can find a ton of guys who have decent hands. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if the Jets had no plan whatsoever.


Right...ok...

A- Recieving RB's are not that plentiful

B- DeSean Jackson is a WR

C- It's fine to say OL, S, OLB, etc are bigger needs...but its better to draft a guy you think will be a quality player than reach for a need. Especially in the middle rounds.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:55 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 14 March 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Right...ok...

A- Recieving RB's are not that plentiful

B- DeSean Jackson is a WR

C- It's fine to say OL, S, OLB, etc are bigger needs...but its better to draft a guy you think will be a quality player than reach for a need. Especially in the middle rounds.


A. I think there's a good amount of them. I don't view "A RB who can catch" as a special skill. I think it's harder to find a TE who can block and is a good reciever than a RB who can be a good RB and a good pass catcher out of the backfield. No other reason than it's just my opinion.

B. Lesean and Desean... cut me a break. Here, watch this:



C. I think with the amount of holes on this roster, if we draft BPA every round, it will more likely than not fill a need as well.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

A. I think there's a good amount of them. I don't view "A RB who can catch" as a special skill. I think it's harder to find a TE who can block and is a good reciever than a RB who can be a good RB and a good pass catcher out of the backfield. No other reason than it's just my opinion.

B. Lesean and Desean... cut me a break. Here, watch this:



C. I think with the amount of holes on this roster, if we draft BPA every round, it will more likely than not fill a need as well.


Haha yeah I've seen that video...I call my dog smoochie wallace now.

I guess it depends on how you define a "RB who can catch." For Mornhinweg's system, I think you're talking about more than just a RB who can catch dumpoffs. I think you need a RB who can run routes and catch passes downfield, like a WR....and those RB's are rare. How many of those guys are there in the league?

Darren Sproles...Franke Gore...LeSean McCoy...Reggie Bush...Ray Rice?
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