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 Jetsfan115  : (25 August 2014 - 04:54 PM) patterson suspended indefinatly by idzik. were fucked at CB right now azjetfan  : (25 August 2014 - 08:35 PM) Do the Rams have a CB worth trading for? HarlemHxC814  : (25 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) FIRE IDZIK Jetsfan0099  : (25 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) Saunders had a seizure, that is why he got into a car crash. He returned to practice, weird/ Jetsfan0099  : (26 August 2014 - 07:00 AM) ‏@AdamSchefter 4m Jets tried trading WR Stepehen Hill this summer. No takers. Let's see if final cuts today and Saturday change that equation. Jetsfan115  : (26 August 2014 - 11:15 AM) i hate izdik azjetfan  : (26 August 2014 - 12:32 PM) Our starting CB Walls working in rehab area Jetsfan115  : (26 August 2014 - 02:52 PM) any CBs that are decent on the trade block or facing salary cuts? MikeGangGree...  : (26 August 2014 - 03:00 PM) I wouldnt cut Hill watch him go to NE and turn into Randy Moss HarlemHxC814  : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) I'm just glad there aren't anymore greedy bastards on the team to deal with HarlemHxC814  : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) Or street thugs HarlemHxC814  : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) f*** a CB problem Jetsman05  : (26 August 2014 - 03:49 PM) need 1 more in the fantasy league RetireChrebet  : (26 August 2014 - 08:33 PM) Dimitri suspended for the rest of preseason. I'm sorry, I know we are bone dry at corner these days but they should have cut this prick on the spot . He's going to get torched regardless this year and I'd rather cut ties with any potential cancerous attitutudes before the season even starts. RetireChrebet  : (26 August 2014 - 08:34 PM) Where I come from you take responsibility for your actions. Not showing up for a game is cowardly and selfish. f*** him RetireChrebet  : (26 August 2014 - 08:36 PM) Also he doesn't know what the acronym AWOL means so he's also an idiot. No wonder he's never been anything but a journeyman corner is this league. azjetfan  : (26 August 2014 - 09:11 PM) So how do you really feel? RetireChrebet  : (26 August 2014 - 11:18 PM) I think my last three posts pretty much summarize how I feel haha. He's making 1.5 mill this year and no call no shows because his feeling are hurt. Would rather you play corner azjetfan than this guy MikeGangGree...  : (Yesterday, 08:12 AM) Need 1 more for FFB!! Jetsfan0099  : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) Stephen Hill is going to get cut, guy sucks. Greg Salas is a better football player and deserves a spot over him HarlemHxC814  : (Yesterday, 11:27 AM) So when do we show up to 115s house with pitchforks, tar and feathers? Jetsfan115  : (Yesterday, 12:03 PM) i'd rather see idzik go then hill. fire idzik bleedsgreen  : (Yesterday, 12:21 PM) Hill is such a disappointment. I really was hopping for so much when he scored 2 TDs his first game MikeGangGree...  : (Yesterday, 03:11 PM) We need to get the J-E-T-S chant back this year to the way it was MikeGangGree...  : (Yesterday, 03:13 PM) idk if any of u guys went to any of the games last year[Im sure some of u did] but im not a fan of the drumline leading the chant MikeGangGree...  : (Yesterday, 03:14 PM) its not the same as 70,000 people doing it during every kickoff and after every score Jetsfan115  : (Yesterday, 05:43 PM) injuries and poor QB play aren't good for a WR to develop Jetsman05  : (Yesterday, 06:08 PM) 115 and Hill. Lol! Jetsfan0099  : (Yesterday, 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well Jetsfan115  : (Today, 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up HarlemHxC814  : (Today, 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol ROBJETS  : (Today, 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROBJETS  : (Today, 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4 ROBJETS  : (Today, 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game. ganggreen2003  : (Today, 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary ganggreen2003  : (Today, 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson ganggreen2003  : (Today, 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet? ROBJETS  : (Today, 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers ROBJETS  : (Today, 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked. ROBJETS  : (Today, 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored ROBJETS  : (Today, 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70? Jetsfan0099  : (Today, 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team ganggreen2003  : (Today, 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet? Jetsfan0099  : (Today, 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK HarlemHxC814  : (Today, 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115

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## Never Say It Can Never Get Worse . . . Jets New QB smh

### #1Tebow15

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:07 PM

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It hasn't happened yet, but it's a virtual sure thing that current Arizona Cardinals quarterbackKevin Kolb will be former Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kevin Kolb sooner than later. Kolb is due a \$2 million roster bonus on Saturday, and carries a \$13.5 million cap number in 2013 as part of the onerous six-year, \$63.5 million contract he signed in July of 2011. New head coach Bruce Arians and new general manager John Keim have no specific ties to Kolb, though Keim was in Arizona's front office when the deal was made, and Arians no doubt would like to move on from a hyper-expensive quarterback who has started just 14 games and thrown just 17 touchdowns in his two seasons with the team.

Where would Kolb go upon his release? Believe it or not, there's a lot of fire behind this smoke: Rumors that he could indeed compete for and win the starting job with the New York Jets have quite a bit of weight to them. New Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg filled that same position for Andy Reid with the Philadelphia Eagles in 2007, when the Eagles selected Kolb in the second round out of Houston.

The decision to take Kolb, many say, was Mornhinweg's as much as anyone's, and Mornhinweg still holds a great affinity for Kolb.

The possibility was first broached by Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News via Twitter on Thursday morning.

Mehta then went into further detail in an article, saying that Kolb would be a quick add to the Jets' roster at the right price.

When Greg Cosell of NFL Films and ESPN's NFL Matchup and I got on the phone Thursday afternoon for a Shutdown Corner free agency podcast, Greg -- who knows Mornhinweg very well -- affirmed that Kolb to the Jets in a major role is a real possibility.

"I'll tell you where he could end up, and only because I know this -- it would not surprise me to see him with the Jets," Cosell said. "Marty Mornhinweg has always been a big, big believer in Kevin Kolb. This might sound like a bold statement, but it's not -- barring injury, and barring Kolb just being horrendous, and we don't know where he stands after getting shellshocked in Arizona ... assuming he's the Kevin Kolb he was with the Eagles, he could win the starting quarterback job.

"Marty has always loved him. And when coaches love a guy, you know how that works. He's got no affinity for Mark Sanchez whatsoever. He's going to look at [Sanchez's] tape, and he's not necessarily going to like what he sees there."

Consider also that Reid, the new head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, did not wait for Kolb's seemingly inevitable release to add him to Kansas City's roster -- he traded with the San Francisco 49ers for Alex Smith, and signed former New Orleans Saints backup Chase Daniel to back Smith up.

The Jets had an unmitigated quarterback disaster in 2012, as Mark Sanchez played poorly -- but not poorly enough for Tim Tebow to get on the field. There were times when former seventh-round pick Greg McElroy looked like the best quarterback on the roster. Mornhinweg recently said that Sanchez has "a leg up" on the current competition at the position, and that competition now includes veteran David Garrard, who the Jets signed off the street on March 11.

It's not exactly manna from heaven for Jets fans tired of sub-par play from their quarterbacks, but Kevin Kolb could be on the way, and he could be starting in the near future.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:19 PM

I don't exactly get the issue with the Jets signing QBs this offseason. It's a weak QB draft and a weak QB free agent market. Who exactly are the Jets suppose to bring in? Keeping the current batch of guys (Sanchez, Tebow, McElroy, and Simms) isn't going to do anything. They are trying to milk the last bit of ability from Garrard. Mornhinweg has had success with Kolb. If Kolb comes cheap, what exactly is the issue? The Jets QB situation is in shambles. The more bodies at camp, the better. Don't even try to argue that Garrard and Kolb is worse than McElroy and Tebow.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:26 PM

I don't think signing Kolb is a bad idea... Hes experienced in Mornhinweg's system and he brings more competition.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:37 PM

Considering what the market is like for QBs this season, I'll absolutely take Kolb. Mornhinweg as the OC would help out a lot in that respect
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### #5Tebow15

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:46 PM

Chaos, on 14 March 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

I don't exactly get the issue with the Jets signing QBs this offseason. It's a weak QB draft and a weak QB free agent market. Who exactly are the Jets suppose to bring in? Keeping the current batch of guys (Sanchez, Tebow, McElroy, and Simms) isn't going to do anything. They are trying to milk the last bit of ability from Garrard. Mornhinweg has had success with Kolb. If Kolb comes cheap, what exactly is the issue? The Jets QB situation is in shambles. The more bodies at camp, the better. Don't even try to argue that Garrard and Kolb is worse than McElroy and Tebow.

Gerrard is a guy who is known for protecting the ball, so good guy to bring in and compete. Kolb is LOST in games and turns the ball over. Not good.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:50 PM

Tebow15, on 14 March 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Gerrard is a guy who is known for protecting the ball, so good guy to bring in and compete. Kolb is LOST in games and turns the ball over. Not good.

You're right...just give the starting job to Tebow....he never looks lost.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:01 PM

The only part of this article that I disagree with is the "At time Greg McElroy looked like the best QB". At no point in the regular season did McElroy look good. I don't mind Kolb. If MM can make him good enough to start, bring him here. He's not going to be expensive.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:07 PM

Tebow15, on 14 March 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Gerrard is a guy who is known for protecting the ball, so good guy to bring in and compete. Kolb is LOST in games and turns the ball over. Not good.

Where do you get this stuff from? Like seriously, do you smoke PCP as part of a balanced breakfast? Forget that Garrard is old as all hell and missed 2 seasons because of back injury. To most people, that's a big enough red flag right there... but in his last 3 years (when he was playing because, again, he hasn't played in 2 freaking years) he's had the following stats:

2008 15 TDs, 13 INTs and 6 Fumbles Lost
2009 15 TDs, 10 INTs and 9 Fumbles Lost
2010 23 TDs, 15 INTs and 6 Fumbles Lost

Oh yea... he hasn't played for 2 years because of back injuries!
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

SecondHandJets, on 14 March 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Where do you get this stuff from? Like seriously, do you smoke PCP as part of a balanced breakfast? Forget that Garrard is old as all hell and missed 2 seasons because of back injury. To most people, that's a big enough red flag right there... but in his last 3 years (when he was playing because, again, he hasn't played in 2 freaking years) he's had the following stats:

2008 15 TDs, 13 INTs and 6 Fumbles Lost
2009 15 TDs, 10 INTs and 9 Fumbles Lost
2010 23 TDs, 15 INTs and 6 Fumbles Lost

Oh yea... he hasn't played for 2 years because of back injuries!

HAHA! You show 0 years of more ints than tds, and int numbers that are considered very good for any qb, and use it as evidence to try to disprove my statement that Gerrard doesn't turn over the ball that much, and I'm the one smoking PCP for breakfast? Hilarious. Thanks for doing the leg work of proving my point for me with the official stats. Want to throw Kolbs up to compare while you're at it? I like people doing my work for me.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM

Tebow15, on 15 March 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

HAHA! You show 0 years of more ints than tds, and int numbers that are considered very good for any qb, and use it as evidence to try to disprove my statement that Gerrard doesn't turn over the ball that much, and I'm the one smoking PCP for breakfast? Hilarious. Thanks for doing the leg work of proving my point for me with the official stats. Want to throw Kolbs up to compare while you're at it? I like people doing my work for me.

You claimed that Garrard was guy who took care of the football. I showed you that in his last 3 years, he totatled 21 more TURNOVERS than he did TDs. You want to start splitting hairs with some moronic shit about how one type of TO is different than another, go ahead. I don't argue with the mentally ill.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

SecondHandJets, on 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

You claimed that Garrard was guy who took care of the football. I showed you that in his last 3 years, he totatled 21 more TURNOVERS than he did TDs. You want to start splitting hairs with some moronic shit about how one type of TO is different than another, go ahead. I don't argue with the mentally ill.

Ok, we will have a 270 pound person, who can run a 4.6 40, run and hit u from 7 yards away, and lets see how many times u hold onto the ball. Fumbles in the pocket, for the most part, are not a qb's fault. If he holds the ball like a loaf of bread, or doesn't tuck it away when he runs, then it's his fault. Especially if its on a buttfumble. But it's not a qb's decision making skills that make him fumble a ball when one of the greatest athletes in the world hits him in the back.

Ints are decision making. How about you learn some football and then try to argue. And if I'm mentally ill, how sad does that make u that you have less comprehension than someone of my mental standing? I wouldn't boast about that to your friends. Normally I ignore your comments because you are too easy, but it's refreshing to get a laugh at your expense every once in a while.

But don't worry, we should just draft a qb who is comming off a throwing shoulder injury, from a school who has never had a qb alumn ever start in a Super Bowl. That will solve our problems ;)
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:15 PM

He's going to look at [Sanchez's] tape, and he's not necessarily going to like what he sees there."[/font]

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Helen Keller could look at the tape of Mark and dislike it!
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

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Cool story bro. QBs that "don't turn the ball over" do not have 21 more turnovers than TDs. End of story.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:15 AM

Tebow15, on 14 March 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Gerrard is a guy who is known for protecting the ball, so good guy to bring in and compete. Kolb is LOST in games and turns the ball over. Not good.

I'm sorry but I just can't take a review of a QB seriously coming from a guy who thinks Tim Tebow is a quality NFL QB.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 10:05 AM

FlyHiJets, on 16 March 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

I'm sorry but I just can't take a review of a QB seriously coming from a guy who thinks Tim Tebow is a quality NFL QB.

And Kellen Clemens lol
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