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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
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Revis Trade: Buccaneers Willing To Deal First And Second-Round Picks In 2014, Report Says and to also pay Revis roughly $15 million per season in an extens

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:40 PM

Revis & Bucs

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on March 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, updated March 21, 2013 at 6:26 PM

In regards to a Darrelle Revis trade, there was little noise, if any, coming out of the league meetings in Arizona this week.

Tampa Bay, the only team that seems to be interested in selling the farm to acquire Revis, is reportedly growing frustrated with the Jets reluctance to pull the trigger. The Jets, meanwhile, continue to be patient.

According to a report from Sports Illustrated's Peter King, though, the Buccaneers have upped the ante to include both their first and second-round picks in 2014 and to also pay Revis roughly $15 million per season in an extension. This, despite not knowing if the corner is fully healthy.

The report says that the sticking point remains Tampa Bay's first-round pick in 2013, which the Jets apparently covet. This would give them the No. 9 and No. 13 overall picks next month. King added that nothing got done in Arizona to move negotiations forward.

For the moment, the Jets don't seem to be jumping at the offer.

New GM John Idzik is in a difficult situation. It is highly unlikely he can re-sign Revis, especially with the promise of an open market waiting for him in 2014. At best, Revis has one more season in New York.

However, Idzik's job is to get the best possible deal for Revis while he still can. As of now, he apparently thinks that is a first-round pick in 2013 as well as a pick in next year's draft.

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Free agent guard Brandon Moore continued his visit with the Dolphins today, the team announced.

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Rex Ryan and some Jets representatives were at Georgia's Pro Day on Thursday. According to reports, Ryan appeared particularly interested in outside linebacker Jarvis Jones, defensive tackle John Jenkins and defensive tackle Kwame Geathers.

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On the Jim Rome show Thursday, former Jets tight end Dustin Keller said he thought Mark Sanchez still has a chance to be successful. Keller added that he spoke to Sanchez recently and that the quarterback was excited by the prospect of working with new offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

Do that trade if the bucs offer up a 2nd and a 4th in this years draft on top of next years picks...

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

View Postextmenace, on 27 March 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Do that trade if the bucs offer up a 2nd and a 4th in this years draft on top of next years picks...


That'll never happen. He's not worth a 1st, two 2nd's & a 4th.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:03 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 29 March 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

That'll never happen. He's not worth a 1st, two 2nd's & a 4th.


You'd get stoked if the Jets traded Revis for a 7th rounder in 2020. Whatever it takes to get him off the team.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 29 March 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

That'll never happen. He's not worth a 1st, two 2nd's & a 4th.


He's worth 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th which is what the Bucs offer really is when you discount the future picks.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 08:05 PM

How do you figure next year's first is basically a second? No one knows where Tamp's going to finish in 2013. It could be the same #13 for all anyone knows.

As for Harlem......you REALLY need to get over yourself and the stupid remarks EVERY time I post on any Mevis related threads. I already said on multiple occasions that if the dip$hit actually signed a REASONABLE deal and actually stuck to it not demanding more money every other year, then it would be worth it to keep him, otherwise get rid of him to actually get more than a POSSIBLE third rounder for him if we're lucky and having to basically pay out 18 million in cap space for one year on him for him to only sign with someone else after the season. The 3rd round compensatory wouldn't even be guaranteed either.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

If I feel you're acting like a complete moron (and that's a complete understatement with the things you've said on here within the past year) on a board that I moderate then yeah, I'm going to continue to call you out on it when I see fit. You call me out on "stupid" remarks and subsequently offer a rebuttal with the terms "Mevis" and "dip$hit"....riiight. If I got you all emotional, then I apologize. Just please don't shoot me.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 31 March 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

How do you figure next year's first is basically a second? No one knows where Tamp's going to finish in 2013. It could be the same #13 for all anyone knows.


Future picks are discounted one round per year. So a 2014 1st rounder is equal to a 2013 2nd rounder. The Bucs offer as it stands now, in today's "time value of draft picks" is equivalent to a 2nd and a 3rd in 2013.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 31 March 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

If I feel you're acting like a complete moron (and that's a complete understatement with the things you've said on here within the past year) on a board that I moderate then yeah, I'm going to continue to call you out on it when I see fit. You call me out on "stupid" remarks and subsequently offer a rebuttal with the terms "Mevis" and "dip$hit"....riiight. If I got you all emotional, then I apologize. Just please don't shoot me.

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Believe me.....I don't get emotional about shit posted on a forum. I just think you & a few others draw it out longer than it needs to be. You guys seem to conveniently miss the comments where I've said if he actually signs for a reasonable amount, then its okay to re-sign him to a longer deal IF he would actually honor a deal for the first time in his career.

We have a difference of opinion regarding him is all. Many of you think he's the best thing since sliced bread. I think he's a playter that USED to be a great player and has a lot to prove on and off the field. Why do you think nobody is clammoring to try to sign him? It's NOT only the injury that has people wary of him. His history of not honoring a single contract is coming back to bite him along with the big question mark about his ability to stay healthy & perform at the pre-2010 level.

And thanks to SHJ for the explanation regarding the picks. I'd still take that deal if I were the Jets.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 05:58 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 19 February 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

I brought up the recovery timetable because so many people around here seem to be under the belief that he's going to come back being the same Revis he was before the injury. I say he won't.


View PostFlyHiJets, on 31 March 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

I already said on multiple occasions that if the dip$hit actually signed a REASONABLE deal and actually stuck to it not demanding more money every other year, then it would be worth it to keep him,




So....you're okay with keeping him if he gets paid what FlyHi deems reasonable (because you know what's best for Revis of course). But you also say he won't be as good as he was before his injury.

I mean if we go with your line of thinking that Revis is a greedy "little street thug" who won't be as good as he was before his injury, why keep him at all? Why should the Jets keep such an awful and damaged person around even if he played for free?
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 April 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

And thanks to SHJ for the explanation regarding the picks. I'd still take that deal if I were the Jets.


Would you trade Revis for Harvin straight up?
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:21 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 01 April 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

So....you're okay with keeping him if he gets paid what FlyHi deems reasonable (because you know what's best for Revis of course). But you also say he won't be as good as he was before his injury.

I mean if we go with your line of thinking that Revis is a greedy "little street thug" who won't be as good as he was before his injury, why keep him at all? Why should the Jets keep such an awful and damaged person around even if he played for free?


WTF is your problem? Get a life and off my d!ck already. I don't give a flying fvck what is best for Revis. I care about what's best for the team. (unlike you obviously)

Reasonable would be 10-12 per year TOPS. Not this 15-16 per year bull$hit he wants. He's only worth 9-12 when he's in prime shape. No CB has EVER been the central piece in winning a Superbowl and Revis sure as hell won't be the first. See......I actually use something you don't. It's called COMMON SENSE. Why overpay him and make it where the rest of the team can't do a damn thing towards winning a championship? With or without him, the team will be lucky to win 5-6 games this season. If they pay him, they'll only have to go through him wanting another new deal in 2015 with him calling the contract another "band aid" if it falls under 16.25 million pre season like he did last time.

You REALLY need to chill with your man love for him. Your gay is shining through.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:23 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 01 April 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

Would you trade Revis for Harvin straight up?


No. I wouldn't. He hasn't had a single 1,000 yard receiving season in his career. I'd trade Holmes for Harvin straight up but not Revis.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 02 April 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

WTF is your problem? Get a life and off my d!ck already. I don't give a flying fvck what is best for Revis. I care about what's best for the team. (unlike you obviously)

Reasonable would be 10-12 per year TOPS. Not this 15-16 per year bull$hit he wants. He's only worth 9-12 when he's in prime shape. No CB has EVER been the central piece in winning a Superbowl and Revis sure as hell won't be the first. See......I actually use something you don't. It's called COMMON SENSE. Why overpay him and make it where the rest of the team can't do a damn thing towards winning a championship? With or without him, the team will be lucky to win 5-6 games this season. If they pay him, they'll only have to go through him wanting another new deal in 2015 with him calling the contract another "band aid" if it falls under 16.25 million pre season like he did last time.

You REALLY need to chill with your man love for him. Your gay is shining through.



Get off your dick? :hysterical: (in my RuPaul voice) I doubt there'd be much dick to get on honey.

I asked you a simple question, why even keep Revis at all if he's greedy and won't be the same after his injury? But no Mr. Jet wrote something so let me go on the attack because he's awful just like Revis. Because we're all the same...j/k....kinda. So blinded by the hate you can't even be civil. That's fine. I like f***ing with you because as I've said before, you always fall for it. And this time I wasn't even really trying. You're older than me and so much of a better and smarter person than I am. But yet you are the one calling me gay as if I'm supposed to be offended. Am I supposed to be insulted or something? Is that what an older and more intelligent person does? Call people names and uses "gay" as if it were supposed to be something negative? Is this 1963? But I like getting under your skin and see you flex your big internet muscles. You're always good for a laugh.


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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:22 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 02 April 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

No. I wouldn't. He hasn't had a single 1,000 yard receiving season in his career. I'd trade Holmes for Harvin straight up but not Revis.


Good. Yet Minny was able to get a 1st rounder for Harvin. If you wouldn't trade Revis for Harvin, then clearly, Revis is worth more than a 1st rounder. Right?
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 02 April 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Good. Yet Minny was able to get a 1st rounder for Harvin. If you wouldn't trade Revis for Harvin, then clearly, Revis is worth more than a 1st rounder. Right?


Nobody ever said Seattle had the brightest people in their front office. Let's also not forget that Harvin only brought in a single pick. Yes. It was this year's 1st rounder but this year's first round talent would only equal next year's draft's second round talent to begin with so if you really want to go with comparisons, Harvin would have gone for next year's second right? Revis would be going for the second and 4th according to your logic right?

I said that I wouldn't trade Revis for Harvin straight up because even coming off the injury, Revis has the reputation that still has him held in higher regard than Harvin. Harvin's best season only had him catch 6 TD's. He's a slot receiver. We already have that in Kerley. Its not an area of need. I honestly wouldn't take any single player other than a quality starting QB or pass rush specialist that we could build a team around for Revis. There are pass rushers in this year's draft BUT each have issues that have been described in the mock draft thread and none would honestly rank likely higher than either late first round or second round in next year's draft class.

As stated previously.........the need to unload Revis comes from his proven DISloyalty towards the team which leads to the likelihood that he will NOT resign with the team if we only have him play out his contract this year. That means, we take an 18 million dollar cap hit for one year of service and HOPE to get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him. If we trade him, we get a couple picks for him. If he comes back and performs at the high level he was at pre-2010 and will sign for 12 million per year, then by all means, sign him, BUT make it beneficial to both sides. Allow him to make his money via escalators and backload the deal along with putting in language that if he holds out during the life of the contract, his salary gets lowered. Revis the PLAYER was outstanding and locked down half the field for the majority of his career. There is no disputing that. Revis the person held no loyalty towards his teammates or to the NY Jets once his uncle Shawn got around him. At first, he took Wilson under his wing and I thought that was cool. His initial holdout coming out of the draft was overlooked as almost normal seeking a decent deal because Tanny wanted to screw him and extend him further than any other rookie coming in by having him sign an extra year. But then he went and did it a second time which no one can deny definitely had an effect on the team. AND on his own performance and his ability to play as he had to deal with hammy issues ever since as he was not in football shape coming back. Then after getting 16.25 for 2 years, he cries and moans that the deal was only a "band aid". BUT it was only a band aid AFTER the money fell under 16.25 a year. And guess what.......he gets hurt again. Seems like karma to me.

Revis needs to either sign a LTD and be a lifelong Jet where he CAN be paid as the highest paid CB in the league without holding the team's ability to put a quality product on the field for ransom or we need to trade him. I say we offer him a deal where he gets a base of say 9-10 per year and allow escalators bring him up to 12-13. That still makes him the highest paid back in the league. Hell.....Aso went from expecting 15 million this season down to playing for THREE and turned down ANY guaranteed money at all.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:13 PM

There is already a 20 page thread about Revis and people need to calm down with the name calling...
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