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RetireChrebet Icon : (22 March 2015 - 01:28 PM) Haha I'm jk man, but my point was if you've never seen virginia play you would know they weren't going anywhere. Their offense is just painful to watch.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:46 PM) Lol....point taken. But a couple of things. 1 you do realize Nova and Va are in the same bracket right? 2 at least Va lost to a top 25 ranked opponent. Nova lost to an unranked.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:49 PM) Also VA beat some good teams. Lost to Duke,beat Maryland and split games with NC and Louisville. Their wins against quality and ranked opponents was higher and better than Nova.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:55 PM) NC State didn't even get one vote to be in the top 25
2JBallar01 Icon : (22 March 2015 - 10:53 PM) @RichCimini: Random contract note: Antonio Cromartie's 4 yr/$32M deal with Jets includes only $7M gtd - $5M base + $2M roster bonus at signing. #nyj
Mr_Jet Icon : (23 March 2015 - 11:45 AM) January - February - Izzo - April - May
2JBallar01 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 01:09 PM) @MMehtaNYDN: Jets announce that they have signed DE Stephen Bowen. #nyj
2JBallar01 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 01:09 PM) @DrewfromJersey: Coples days as an OLB are over. He'll be back to DL. Good for the #Jets. Pretty bad news for NFL players and their heads. #Jets
2JBallar01 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 01:10 PM) @DWAZ73: #Jets busy today, signing DE Stephen Bowen & OT Corey Hilliard, and making signing of DE Kevin Vickerson official.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 03:23 PM) Mike is building some depth and competition
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 03:23 PM) I like it
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 08:10 PM) Jets file tampering charges against Patriots for Kraft's comments
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 08:10 PM) lmao
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 09:53 PM) Jets signing Kellen Davis, TE
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 March 2015 - 10:00 PM) Hes a good blocking TE
JSOTF Icon : (25 March 2015 - 06:02 AM) So, the question is.......Do I invest to go see the Jets vs Fish in England this season????????
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) I'm considering going
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) My brother is moving to London next year...so I have a reason to be over there
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) This August I should say
Smedsthejet Icon : (25 March 2015 - 02:59 PM) You both should do it...I'll buy the first (overpriced) beers as well! Got my ticket back in January
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 03:02 PM) Smeds if I come over I'll be sure to check you out
santana Icon : (25 March 2015 - 09:58 PM) FIRE FIREMAN ED
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 03:58 AM) Well, I now live accros the pond and maybe some of us could meet up there?
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 03:59 AM) Smeds, where did you get your tickets?
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 05:56 AM) Az bitches!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 06:01 AM) I dont know about all that. As bad as we get over sports the Brits get far worse. You might suffer a huge beat down if you say the wrong thing there. Well maybe not being its televised to the U.S.. Security probably be pretty tight.
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 06:03 AM) Well...... the good thing is I know who to mooch off of now if I go to London.
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 06:47 AM) hahahaha, it isnt European Football!
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:04 AM) Ive seen a lot of videos. Most countries go psycho over their soccer teams. Ive seen some serious very bloody beat downs. Fans stabbing the players and refs,etc. And they say we are bad in the U.S. not even close to that.
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:06 AM) I think one was in Africa....a fan stormed the field and was knifing everyone in sight after his team lost
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:08 AM) Hell even in mma when the Brits come over they are all cocky as hell. Big time cocky like they are going to easily destroy everyone they face cocky.
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:36 AM) hahahaha
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:36 AM) damn Europeans!
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:37 AM) They havent fucked with a disgruntled, lifelong Jets fan!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (26 March 2015 - 02:49 PM) Got my tickets from Ticketmaster the day they went on general sale
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:33 AM) You guys get Bellator in London? http://www.bellator.com/schedule its on Spike tv free regular cable channel. in the U.S. and the prelims are free on http://www.spike.com/
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:37 AM) London is 4 hours ahead of east coast U.S. Bellator prelims are 7pm Friday night U.S. East Coast time and the main card is 9pm So just add 4 hours to that if you can catch either. Im sure you can catch a stream or use a U.S. VPN if you dont have access to Spike.com. You guys might get Bellator on another channel their just like with the UFC.
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:47 AM) Anyway only reason I mentioned it was because of your sense of humor. The last Bellator 134 was called the British Invasion. If you watch mma Might want to add this site to your favorites http://www.mmauk.net...y/bellatornews/
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:55 AM) There was one of those hour long shows about the upcoming event featuring the fighters the prior week to Bellator 134 and all 4 of the Brits were cocky as hell. Yelling "The British are coming!!!!"
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:57 AM) By the way 135 is tonight if you are interested. I used to watch pretty much all the televised mma now I stick with Bellator and UFC only
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 03:07 AM) that last link is a UK mma site. Only reason i added it. http://www.sherdog.com/ is pretty much the best mma site on the net for everything mma
JSOTF Icon : (27 March 2015 - 07:08 AM) I actually live in Germany
azjetfan Icon : (27 March 2015 - 09:08 PM) Just got done sitting in traffic for 3 hours in Louisville KY.
azjetfan Icon : (27 March 2015 - 09:09 PM) Unbelievably poor planning by the DOT.
santana Icon : (28 March 2015 - 05:48 PM) Favre on my TV selling shaving razors so I bought a years supply
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

It's obvious both parties (jets and Revis) want to part ways. No QB is worth trading up for this season so trade Revis for a second rounder this year to the buc's and 2014's first rounder. This way we have presumably a top 10 pick next year (ours) and an additional top 20 pick(bucs). Package those two picks together for the first or second overall and scoop up Teddy Bridgewater and get this team moving in the right direction. We will have ridiculous money to spend for additional weapons in 2014 for the rookie and this years draft(13') should be focused on stockpiling starters not necessarily stars. Best case scenario is we go 1-15 have the first pick overall anyway plus an additional first rounder.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

We have no idea what teams are really offering. And there is a good chance that the Bucs 1st rounder this year will be higher than next years.


I have no problem with the Jets waiting it out, try to get the best deal possible. The Bucs are backing off of the other CBs on the market, we are still like 4 weeks away from the draft.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

Honestly, a first and second (regardless of the year) in my opinion isn't really good enough. Whoever wants him is going to have to come off of more than that, I feel.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:24 PM

View PostRetireChrebet, on 26 March 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

It's obvious both parties (jets and Revis) want to part ways. No QB is worth trading up for this season so trade Revis for a second rounder this year to the buc's and 2014's first rounder. This way we have presumably a top 10 pick next year (ours) and an additional top 20 pick(bucs). Package those two picks together for the first or second overall and scoop up Teddy Bridgewater and get this team moving in the right direction. We will have ridiculous money to spend for additional weapons in 2014 for the rookie and this years draft(13') should be focused on stockpiling starters not necessarily stars. Best case scenario is we go 1-15 have the first pick overall anyway plus an additional first rounder.


What if Teddy Bridgewater breaks his arm in seven places and never plays football again?

Anyway, first off, we don't know what Revis wants and we don't know what the Jets want. I can tell you that Rex Ryan wants Revis here and since Rex Ryan is either a lame duck coach who will be fired or Woody's Rasputin who is making all the personnel decisions, we don't know wtf is going on in Florham Park. We do know one thing: Revis wants to be paid. We also know that the Jets are going to have a shit ton of money in 2014, 2015 and 2016. The "leaked" numbers from Revis' deal is about $13.5M per year, which is basically what we paid him on his last deal. I'm less certain the Jets are going to trade him than I was a month ago.

The Bucs offer is bullshit. I hate that people are even taking it seriously. Yea, next year's draft is projected to be better, but who cares? I guarantee you that there will be players who aren't even mocked today who will go in the Top 15 in 2014 and vice versa. The standard for discountieng draft picks is one round per future year. The Bucs are essentially giving us a 2nd and 3rd in 2013. I think that that's cheap as hell and the Jets can get that type of offer anytime. If we're dead set on trading Revis, which no one know for sure we are since we have no idea who's making personnel decisions, we'd be wise to hold out for a better package.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:12 AM

The sad thing is that this looking like it's going to be a 18 million dollar one year rental for Mevis unfortunately.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 12:13 PM

Lol
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:05 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 27 March 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

The sad thing is that this looking like it's going to be a 18 million dollar one year rental for Mevis unfortunately.


The Bucs reprtedly have worked out a deal with Revis where he'd make a little over $13M a year. Where are you coming up with $18M?
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:55 PM

View PostRetireChrebet, on 26 March 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

It's obvious both parties (jets and Revis) want to part ways. No QB is worth trading up for this season so trade Revis for a second rounder this year to the buc's and 2014's first rounder. This way we have presumably a top 10 pick next year (ours) and an additional top 20 pick(bucs). Package those two picks together for the first or second overall and scoop up Teddy Bridgewater and get this team moving in the right direction. We will have ridiculous money to spend for additional weapons in 2014 for the rookie and this years draft(13') should be focused on stockpiling starters not necessarily stars. Best case scenario is we go 1-15 have the first pick overall anyway plus an additional first rounder.



Considering it cost the Redskins three first round picks and a second round selection to move up from No.6 to No. 2 to take RG III last year, we'd need far more than the Bucs' first rounder next year to package with ours if we were to move up to No.1 overall in 2014 to take Bridgewater.


I'm with Harlem on this - a 1st and 2nd rounder is nowhere near enough for Revis. A once in a generation talent (even if he is coming back from an injury) and there's so much talk about trading him - it's madness!
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:00 PM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 27 March 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Considering it cost the Redskins three first round picks and a second round selection to move up from No.6 to No. 2 to take RG III last year, we'd need far more than the Bucs' first rounder next year to package with ours if we were to move up to No.1 overall in 2014 to take Bridgewater.


I'm with Harlem on this - a 1st and 2nd rounder is nowhere near enough for Revis. A once in a generation talent (even if he is coming back from an injury) and there's so much talk about trading him - it's madness!



Believe me I'd love to keep Revis on this team. He's easily my favorite jet of all time but its been proven that a CB does not win superbowls. QB's do. Revis is in my opinion our pawn that would potentially allow the jets to get that QB that will have us in playoff contention year in year out. Like I said in previous post. Maybe we'll keep Revis, pay him the money and still get a top 3 pick based on our teams poor record that we all project is ahead anyway.

Besides I understand Revis is a once in a decade defender but lets be honest. There is a big difference between being the best CB in the league and let's say best WR,RB, or even linebacker. Being the best CB in the league just doesn't have the impact on games that these other high profile positions have. Sure Revis will shut down the opposing teams best reciever but is that really going to prevent the rest of the mediocre defenders from getting picked apart by Brady, Bree's, manning etc..
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:45 PM

I can't get into another debate about trading Revis again. I just can't. Ill just say that a bunch of you are full of shit because if he's dealt you'll all bitch that the Jets don't have any CBs who can cover receivers. I wonder if there's a select group of Vikings fans who cream themselves at the thought of Peterson being traded
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:24 AM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 27 March 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

I can't get into another debate about trading Revis again. I just can't. Ill just say that a bunch of you are full of shit because if he's dealt you'll all bitch that the Jets don't have any CBs who can cover receivers. I wonder if there's a select group of Vikings fans who cream themselves at the thought of Peterson being traded


I don't want Revis traded either, but you're comparing apples and oranges by bringing up Peterson. Peterson is locked into a long term agreement with (I think) no history of holding out. Revis is a pending free agent who has a history of holding out to get the deal he wants.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:03 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 28 March 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

I don't want Revis traded either, but you're comparing apples and oranges by bringing up Peterson. Peterson is locked into a long term agreement with (I think) no history of holding out. Revis is a pending free agent who has a history of holding out to get the deal he wants.


My point was that there aren't really fans of other teams besides the Jets that are so eager and willing to trade away(at least it isn't as evident in my opinion) their once in a lifetime elite, game changing superstar. You could just as easily I'm that sentence substitute Peterson for a Patrick Willis or Calvin Johnson type
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:15 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 28 March 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

My point was that there aren't really fans of other teams besides the Jets that are so eager and willing to trade away(at least it isn't as evident in my opinion) their once in a lifetime elite, game changing superstar. You could just as easily I'm that sentence substitute Peterson for a Patrick Willis or Calvin Johnson type


The Revis situation is unique from them as well for the same reasons. Even as someone who wants Revis on the team, I have to admit that much.


Except for a select few, I don't think anyone was just going around screaming "TRADE REVIS" before all these rumors started surfacing. Now that those rumors are out there, some people think it would be best for the team's future to accelerate the rebuilding process. I understand both sides of the argument.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

Some would want him traded for a box of condoms...but that's neither here nor there
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:03 PM

the jets do not want to part ways with the best defensive player in football and the bets player they've had in decades. the problem is the business side. there is teh cap, how much he will cost to keep, how much other needs we have, and what we can get. idzyk has to weigh his options. if revis walks next ear and we get nothing it would be a huge fail, if he pays him 15 mil it could hamper the teams cap room, if he trades and doesn't get anything good in rturn (bad value and picks bad players) he'll look bad. he has to wieght his optioins
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:06 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 26 March 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

What if Teddy Bridgewater breaks his arm in seven places and never plays football again?

Anyway, first off, we don't know what Revis wants and we don't know what the Jets want. I can tell you that Rex Ryan wants Revis here and since Rex Ryan is either a lame duck coach who will be fired or Woody's Rasputin who is making all the personnel decisions, we don't know wtf is going on in Florham Park. We do know one thing: Revis wants to be paid. We also know that the Jets are going to have a shit ton of money in 2014, 2015 and 2016. The "leaked" numbers from Revis' deal is about $13.5M per year, which is basically what we paid him on his last deal. I'm less certain the Jets are going to trade him than I was a month ago.

The Bucs offer is bullshit. I hate that people are even taking it seriously. Yea, next year's draft is projected to be better, but who cares? I guarantee you that there will be players who aren't even mocked today who will go in the Top 15 in 2014 and vice versa. The standard for discountieng draft picks is one round per future year. The Bucs are essentially giving us a 2nd and 3rd in 2013. I think that that's cheap as hell and the Jets can get that type of offer anytime. If we're dead set on trading Revis, which no one know for sure we are since we have no idea who's making personnel decisions, we'd be wise to hold out for a better package.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:03 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 27 March 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

The Bucs reprtedly have worked out a deal with Revis where he'd make a little over $13M a year. Where are you coming up with $18M?


Easy....9 million for this year & the 9 million in dead money he counts against next year's cap. 9+9=18
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:07 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 29 March 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

Easy....9 million for this year & the 9 million in dead money he counts against next year's cap. 9+9=18


He won't count as dead money against the cap in 2014 because the Jets won't cut him. He has the option to opt out of the contract, if he does, that contract is nullified.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:18 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 March 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

He won't count as dead money against the cap in 2014 because the Jets won't cut him. He has the option to opt out of the contract, if he does, that contract is nullified.


If he leaves via free agency, he counts 9 million against the cap in dead money in 2014. Check again.
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