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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Should The Jets Draft Geno Smith?

Poll: Should The Jets Draft Geno Smith? (12 member(s) have cast votes)

Geno Smith with the 9th overall pick?

  1. Yes (6 votes [50.00%])

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  2. No (6 votes [50.00%])

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:25 PM

1. Chiefs - Alex Smith
2. Jaguars -
3. Raiders - Matt Flynn
4. Eagles - Michael Vick / Nick Foles
5. Lions - Matthew Stafford
6. Browns - Brandon Weeden
7. Cardinals - Carson Palmer (not official yet)
8. Bills - Kevin Kolb
9. Jets - LOL

With so many veteran QB moves going down in the last few days, it's plausible that Geno Smith might fall to the Jets. If he does, would you draft him?
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:52 PM

Absolutely not. No QB is worth investing a 1st round pick in this year.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

I voted no. I'm not sold on Geno Smith having the arm to throw in the winds at the meadowlands.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:08 PM

No. Very unimpressed by him from what I've seen. Would hope he falls to us so maybe someone like Minnesota would trade up but I doubt that he gets past Jacksonville or the Raiders (they gave up a 5th rounder in 2014 for Flynn, not exactly "must start because we have so much invested in him" situation).
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:08 PM

It's questionable. Almost all of the mock picks for the Jets have upside & downside.

Jarvis Jones - may not even get cleared to play with the spinal stenosis diagnosis in 2009 & neck issue.

Dion Jordan - Coming off labrum surgery & will likely end up in Jacksonville with the #2 anyway.

Barkevious Mingo - Liability against the run so definitely not an every down player. Only had 4.5 sacks last season but has the upside to be a terror with his speed.

Star Lotulelei - 7 sacks in 38 games? I'll pass thanks. Not to mention recently diagnosed with a heart condition. Could be something as simple as a murmur or MVP (mitral valve prolapse) but still enough to pass on him being a first rounder.

Geno Smith - Great collegiate numbers but can he throw in the big leagues and in the Meadowlands in particular?

Tavon Austin - Really? Why? He's basically Jeremy Kerley or Brad Smith minus the QB experience. 5'9 (being generous) & 174.......low first round pick at best IMO.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

Sorry i sound like a broken record but i really hope Idzik is planning on trading down
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:09 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 02 April 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Sorry i sound like a broken record but i really hope Idzik is planning on trading down


With who though? I don't see why anyone would want to trade up to the 9th spot this year.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:16 PM

View PostChaos, on 02 April 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

With who though? I don't see why anyone would want to trade up to the 9th spot this year.


Yeah when I said it before, I always said it was contingent on finding a trading partner. I'm hoping Geno falls to #9 and some team is desperate enough to trade up for him
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

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http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/

Should the Jets pick Geno Smith?

The NFL is sending a message to Geno Smith, and it's not a positive one.

Four quarterback-needy teams picking in the top eight have acquired veteran signal-callers -- the Chiefs (Alex Smith), Raiders (Matt Flynn), Cards (Carson Palmer) and Bills (Kevin Kolb). If any of these teams deemed Smith a franchise quarterback, do you think they'd have doled out fairly significant contracts to a bunch of castoffs? Hardly.

The recent moves won't preclude any of these teams from picking Smith, but the days of picking a first-round quarterback and stashing him on the bench for a year or two are pretty much over. It sure looks like Smith could slip to the Jets, who own the ninth overall pick.

If that happens, should the Jets draft Smith?

It would be an upset if they do. With a crowded depth chart and an $8.25 million guarantee invested in Mark Sanchez, new GM John Idzik probably would pass on the prolific passer from West Virginia. They could try to trade the pick, but here's the problem: No team from 10 to 32 has a glaring need for a quarterback.

If the Jets pass, they'd get no argument from Pro Football Weekly draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki, who delivers a scathing assessment of Smith's skills. In his PFW scouting report, he writes:


"Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence -- does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor -- no urgency. Not committed or focused -- marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board ... Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college -- cannot handle hard coaching.

"Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of over-excitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities."


ESPN Stats & Information has furnished some "Next Level" stats on the top eight prospects -- Smith, Matt Barkley (USC), EJ Manuel (Florida State), Ryan Nassib (Syracuse), Tyler Wilson (Arkansas), Mike Glennon (North Carolina State), Tyler Bray (Tennessee) and Landry Jones (Oklahoma). The numbers lend some credence to Nawrocki's evaluation of Smith. Consider some of these 2012 stats:

• On throws of 20-plus yards downfield, Smith completed only 37.3 percent, sixth among the eight passers. Manuel led the way with a 49.2-percent mark.

• Smith's career took off in Dana Holgorsen's system. More than 96 percent of his career attempts came out of the shotgun or pistol offense. Holgorsen introduced Smith to the pistol in 2011, and he threw 42 touchdowns and only four interceptions out of that formation. In 2012, 59 percent of his pass attempts came out of the pistol.

• Smith operated a short-passing game. In fact, he threw 177 of his 518 passes at or behind the line of scrimmage, including 112 screen passes. As a result, Smith’s average pass traveled 7.7 yards past the line of scrimmage, the fewest air yards per attempt of any top QB prospect.

• Smith thrived against extra pressure. Facing the blitz, he completed 70.8 percent of his passes, best among the eight prospects. Those attempts included 12 touchdown passes and only one interception.

The Smith debate will continue as we get closer to April 25. What do you think? Me, I'd pass.Tags:New York Jets, Mark Sanchez, John Idzik

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:29 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 02 April 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

It's questionable. Almost all of the mock picks for the Jets have upside & downside.

Jarvis Jones - may not even get cleared to play with the spinal stenosis diagnosis in 2009 & neck issue.

Dion Jordan - Coming off labrum surgery & will likely end up in Jacksonville with the #2 anyway.

Barkevious Mingo - Liability against the run so definitely not an every down player. Only had 4.5 sacks last season but has the upside to be a terror with his speed.

Star Lotulelei - 7 sacks in 38 games? I'll pass thanks. Not to mention recently diagnosed with a heart condition. Could be something as simple as a murmur or MVP (mitral valve prolapse) but still enough to pass on him being a first rounder.

Geno Smith - Great collegiate numbers but can he throw in the big leagues and in the Meadowlands in particular?

Tavon Austin - Really? Why? He's basically Jeremy Kerley or Brad Smith minus the QB experience. 5'9 (being generous) & 174.......low first round pick at best IMO.



No he isn't. Hes much more talented than Kerley and Brad Smith doesn't even make sense with the comparison, since Austin is a highly productive WR and Smith was a college QB.


I think Austin will be a playmaker in the NFL. Elite speed and quickness, who cares that hes short.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:31 AM

No thank you. This team is going to be bad next year and with some really good prospects coming out next year, I hope the front office realizes that this team would be better off getting their guy in the 14' draft. They should already know they will be in great position to grab their guy next year. With sanchez starting next year, and the players we lost / have replaced this year so far, the front office would have to be in loser denial to not think they wont be drafting inside the top 10.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:18 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 03 April 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

No he isn't. Hes much more talented than Kerley and Brad Smith doesn't even make sense with the comparison, since Austin is a highly productive WR and Smith was a college QB.


I think Austin will be a playmaker in the NFL. Elite speed and quickness, who cares that hes short.


Elite speed and quickness? He's a slot receiver. Nothing more. We have that in Kerley already so why waste the pick? He will not be able to create separation. He's not a receiver that can play on the outside because he'd get beat up once he takes a good shot from a real NFL safety. He's short & he's only 173. He's going to end up being a ST specialist. Either that or he's going to end up like Kevin Ware with those toothpicks he's got for legs.

The Brad Smith comparison comes in because Austin will be utilized just like him. Used at receiver a little but mostly on ST and as a return specialist.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:52 PM

How the f*** can you say he won't be able to take a shot from a safety then go on and talk about how he's going to be playing over the middle.

I suppose Wes Welker is just a 'slot' receiver. If being 'just a slot receiver' means you catch 100 balls for 1000 yards, I'll take one of those.

Tavon Austin's measurables piss on Kerley, and he'll do more in his rookie year than Kerley has in his career.

That said, I don't want to draft him.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:55 PM

nope. fill other holes, suck next year, get a top 5 pick, draft a QB next season and hope to compete
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:57 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 04 April 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

How the f*** can you say he won't be able to take a shot from a safety then go on and talk about how he's going to be playing over the middle.

I suppose Wes Welker is just a 'slot' receiver. If being 'just a slot receiver' means you catch 100 balls for 1000 yards, I'll take one of those.

Tavon Austin's measurables piss on Kerley, and he'll do more in his rookie year than Kerley has in his career.

That said, I don't want to draft him.


lots of good small WRs. steve smith, wlker, d-jax, santana moss, etc. you don't disoucnt skill for size. but we need LBers and Safeties more then WRs right now
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 04 April 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

lots of good small WRs. steve smith, wlker, d-jax, santana moss, etc. you don't disoucnt skill for size. but we need LBers and Safeties more then WRs right now


Percy Harvin-molded receivers are the new aged stars.

Taking over the league.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 04 April 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Percy Harvin-molded receivers are the new aged stars.

Taking over the league.


Percy Harvin hasn't had a 1000 yard receiving season in his career. While he has been in the league, there have been 80 1000 yard seasons. Harvin is a poor choice.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:35 AM

I hope Sanchez is the starter and screws the team over in 2013 so they're in a position to land Bridgewater
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:38 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 04 April 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

Percy Harvin hasn't had a 1000 yard receiving season in his career. While he has been in the league, there have been 80 1000 yard seasons. Harvin is a poor choice.


harvin isn't the ideal WR. its still the megatronn/andre johnson/larry fitzgeald model
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:16 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 05 April 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

harvin isn't the ideal WR. its still the megatronn/andre johnson/larry fitzgeald model


Not even remotely what I was talking about.

Every team now, has a slot receiver who can line up all over the field.
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