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Should The Jets Draft Geno Smith?

Poll: Should The Jets Draft Geno Smith? (12 member(s) have cast votes)

Geno Smith with the 9th overall pick?

  1. Yes (6 votes [50.00%])

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  2. No (6 votes [50.00%])

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:25 PM

1. Chiefs - Alex Smith
2. Jaguars -
3. Raiders - Matt Flynn
4. Eagles - Michael Vick / Nick Foles
5. Lions - Matthew Stafford
6. Browns - Brandon Weeden
7. Cardinals - Carson Palmer (not official yet)
8. Bills - Kevin Kolb
9. Jets - LOL

With so many veteran QB moves going down in the last few days, it's plausible that Geno Smith might fall to the Jets. If he does, would you draft him?
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:52 PM

Absolutely not. No QB is worth investing a 1st round pick in this year.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

I voted no. I'm not sold on Geno Smith having the arm to throw in the winds at the meadowlands.
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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:08 PM

No. Very unimpressed by him from what I've seen. Would hope he falls to us so maybe someone like Minnesota would trade up but I doubt that he gets past Jacksonville or the Raiders (they gave up a 5th rounder in 2014 for Flynn, not exactly "must start because we have so much invested in him" situation).
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:08 PM

It's questionable. Almost all of the mock picks for the Jets have upside & downside.

Jarvis Jones - may not even get cleared to play with the spinal stenosis diagnosis in 2009 & neck issue.

Dion Jordan - Coming off labrum surgery & will likely end up in Jacksonville with the #2 anyway.

Barkevious Mingo - Liability against the run so definitely not an every down player. Only had 4.5 sacks last season but has the upside to be a terror with his speed.

Star Lotulelei - 7 sacks in 38 games? I'll pass thanks. Not to mention recently diagnosed with a heart condition. Could be something as simple as a murmur or MVP (mitral valve prolapse) but still enough to pass on him being a first rounder.

Geno Smith - Great collegiate numbers but can he throw in the big leagues and in the Meadowlands in particular?

Tavon Austin - Really? Why? He's basically Jeremy Kerley or Brad Smith minus the QB experience. 5'9 (being generous) & 174.......low first round pick at best IMO.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

Sorry i sound like a broken record but i really hope Idzik is planning on trading down
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:09 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 02 April 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

Sorry i sound like a broken record but i really hope Idzik is planning on trading down


With who though? I don't see why anyone would want to trade up to the 9th spot this year.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:16 PM

View PostChaos, on 02 April 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

With who though? I don't see why anyone would want to trade up to the 9th spot this year.


Yeah when I said it before, I always said it was contingent on finding a trading partner. I'm hoping Geno falls to #9 and some team is desperate enough to trade up for him
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

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http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/

Should the Jets pick Geno Smith?

The NFL is sending a message to Geno Smith, and it's not a positive one.

Four quarterback-needy teams picking in the top eight have acquired veteran signal-callers -- the Chiefs (Alex Smith), Raiders (Matt Flynn), Cards (Carson Palmer) and Bills (Kevin Kolb). If any of these teams deemed Smith a franchise quarterback, do you think they'd have doled out fairly significant contracts to a bunch of castoffs? Hardly.

The recent moves won't preclude any of these teams from picking Smith, but the days of picking a first-round quarterback and stashing him on the bench for a year or two are pretty much over. It sure looks like Smith could slip to the Jets, who own the ninth overall pick.

If that happens, should the Jets draft Smith?

It would be an upset if they do. With a crowded depth chart and an $8.25 million guarantee invested in Mark Sanchez, new GM John Idzik probably would pass on the prolific passer from West Virginia. They could try to trade the pick, but here's the problem: No team from 10 to 32 has a glaring need for a quarterback.

If the Jets pass, they'd get no argument from Pro Football Weekly draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki, who delivers a scathing assessment of Smith's skills. In his PFW scouting report, he writes:


"Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence -- does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor -- no urgency. Not committed or focused -- marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board ... Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college -- cannot handle hard coaching.

"Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of over-excitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities."


ESPN Stats & Information has furnished some "Next Level" stats on the top eight prospects -- Smith, Matt Barkley (USC), EJ Manuel (Florida State), Ryan Nassib (Syracuse), Tyler Wilson (Arkansas), Mike Glennon (North Carolina State), Tyler Bray (Tennessee) and Landry Jones (Oklahoma). The numbers lend some credence to Nawrocki's evaluation of Smith. Consider some of these 2012 stats:

• On throws of 20-plus yards downfield, Smith completed only 37.3 percent, sixth among the eight passers. Manuel led the way with a 49.2-percent mark.

• Smith's career took off in Dana Holgorsen's system. More than 96 percent of his career attempts came out of the shotgun or pistol offense. Holgorsen introduced Smith to the pistol in 2011, and he threw 42 touchdowns and only four interceptions out of that formation. In 2012, 59 percent of his pass attempts came out of the pistol.

• Smith operated a short-passing game. In fact, he threw 177 of his 518 passes at or behind the line of scrimmage, including 112 screen passes. As a result, Smith’s average pass traveled 7.7 yards past the line of scrimmage, the fewest air yards per attempt of any top QB prospect.

• Smith thrived against extra pressure. Facing the blitz, he completed 70.8 percent of his passes, best among the eight prospects. Those attempts included 12 touchdown passes and only one interception.

The Smith debate will continue as we get closer to April 25. What do you think? Me, I'd pass.Tags:New York Jets, Mark Sanchez, John Idzik

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:29 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 02 April 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

It's questionable. Almost all of the mock picks for the Jets have upside & downside.

Jarvis Jones - may not even get cleared to play with the spinal stenosis diagnosis in 2009 & neck issue.

Dion Jordan - Coming off labrum surgery & will likely end up in Jacksonville with the #2 anyway.

Barkevious Mingo - Liability against the run so definitely not an every down player. Only had 4.5 sacks last season but has the upside to be a terror with his speed.

Star Lotulelei - 7 sacks in 38 games? I'll pass thanks. Not to mention recently diagnosed with a heart condition. Could be something as simple as a murmur or MVP (mitral valve prolapse) but still enough to pass on him being a first rounder.

Geno Smith - Great collegiate numbers but can he throw in the big leagues and in the Meadowlands in particular?

Tavon Austin - Really? Why? He's basically Jeremy Kerley or Brad Smith minus the QB experience. 5'9 (being generous) & 174.......low first round pick at best IMO.



No he isn't. Hes much more talented than Kerley and Brad Smith doesn't even make sense with the comparison, since Austin is a highly productive WR and Smith was a college QB.


I think Austin will be a playmaker in the NFL. Elite speed and quickness, who cares that hes short.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:31 AM

No thank you. This team is going to be bad next year and with some really good prospects coming out next year, I hope the front office realizes that this team would be better off getting their guy in the 14' draft. They should already know they will be in great position to grab their guy next year. With sanchez starting next year, and the players we lost / have replaced this year so far, the front office would have to be in loser denial to not think they wont be drafting inside the top 10.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:18 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 03 April 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

No he isn't. Hes much more talented than Kerley and Brad Smith doesn't even make sense with the comparison, since Austin is a highly productive WR and Smith was a college QB.


I think Austin will be a playmaker in the NFL. Elite speed and quickness, who cares that hes short.


Elite speed and quickness? He's a slot receiver. Nothing more. We have that in Kerley already so why waste the pick? He will not be able to create separation. He's not a receiver that can play on the outside because he'd get beat up once he takes a good shot from a real NFL safety. He's short & he's only 173. He's going to end up being a ST specialist. Either that or he's going to end up like Kevin Ware with those toothpicks he's got for legs.

The Brad Smith comparison comes in because Austin will be utilized just like him. Used at receiver a little but mostly on ST and as a return specialist.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:52 PM

How the f*** can you say he won't be able to take a shot from a safety then go on and talk about how he's going to be playing over the middle.

I suppose Wes Welker is just a 'slot' receiver. If being 'just a slot receiver' means you catch 100 balls for 1000 yards, I'll take one of those.

Tavon Austin's measurables piss on Kerley, and he'll do more in his rookie year than Kerley has in his career.

That said, I don't want to draft him.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:55 PM

nope. fill other holes, suck next year, get a top 5 pick, draft a QB next season and hope to compete
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:57 PM

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How the f*** can you say he won't be able to take a shot from a safety then go on and talk about how he's going to be playing over the middle.

I suppose Wes Welker is just a 'slot' receiver. If being 'just a slot receiver' means you catch 100 balls for 1000 yards, I'll take one of those.

Tavon Austin's measurables piss on Kerley, and he'll do more in his rookie year than Kerley has in his career.

That said, I don't want to draft him.


lots of good small WRs. steve smith, wlker, d-jax, santana moss, etc. you don't disoucnt skill for size. but we need LBers and Safeties more then WRs right now
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 04 April 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

lots of good small WRs. steve smith, wlker, d-jax, santana moss, etc. you don't disoucnt skill for size. but we need LBers and Safeties more then WRs right now


Percy Harvin-molded receivers are the new aged stars.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 04 April 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Percy Harvin-molded receivers are the new aged stars.

Taking over the league.


Percy Harvin hasn't had a 1000 yard receiving season in his career. While he has been in the league, there have been 80 1000 yard seasons. Harvin is a poor choice.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:35 AM

I hope Sanchez is the starter and screws the team over in 2013 so they're in a position to land Bridgewater
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:38 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 04 April 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

Percy Harvin hasn't had a 1000 yard receiving season in his career. While he has been in the league, there have been 80 1000 yard seasons. Harvin is a poor choice.


harvin isn't the ideal WR. its still the megatronn/andre johnson/larry fitzgeald model
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:16 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 05 April 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

harvin isn't the ideal WR. its still the megatronn/andre johnson/larry fitzgeald model


Not even remotely what I was talking about.

Every team now, has a slot receiver who can line up all over the field.
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