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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (Yesterday, 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

Alright so here's how I'm doing this. I'm going to mock the first 8 overall, so you know who's there once its our turn. I will then mock Jet selections only.

1. Joeckel
2. Jordan
3. Floyd
4. Fisher
5. Ansah
6. Miliner
7. Warmack
8. Patterson
9...

Phone rings inside the Jets war room... It's Rick Speilman, the Vikings GM. He wants to move up and after some back and forth, the Jets agree to give up the 9th pick, the 105th (4th rounder) and the 159th (6th rounder) for the 23rd and 25th overall. The math is close enough (1350 + 84 + 23.8 = 1457.8; 760 + 720 = 1480). Why would the Vikes make this trade? It actually makes perfect sense for them. They have 2 major holes and one area that can use a massive upgrade. Harvin departing left a big void at WR and they can grab Austin at #9 and replace Harvin's production with none of the mind fuckery OR they can take the best DT in the draft, Lotuleili and plug him next to the aging Kevin Williams (33) and bring back their monster D Line. Finally, Geno Smith makes a ton of sense for Minny. He's an immediate upgrade over Ponder and playing in the dome will mask his most glaring weakness. I actually see this happening.

An hour passes by and Tampa is on the clock...

Phone rings inside the Jets war room... it's Idzik's old pal Rick McKay, "Alright you bastard! You smug sunovabitch! You got me! There aint a CB worth 2 shits in this draft and we're trotting out a 54 year old Rhonde Barber against Julio Jones, Colston and Steve Smith. I'll give you the 13th and next years 1st pick for Revis... what do you mean 'No'?! No way... no no no... alright and a 3rd next year. Done."

Jets on the clock...

Phone rings inside the Jets war room... Idzik looks at Rex puzzled... "It's a Bay Area number?". On the other end of the phone is Trent Baalke... he explains to Idzik that the 9ers would like to move ahead of all the 3-4 teams that are about to pick because they want to make sure that they get their man, Bjoern Werner. Justin Smith is turning 34 and is on the last year of his deal. When he got hurt, the 9er pass rush disappeared because Aldon Smith didn't have anyone eating 2 blocks in front of him. Werner compares to Chris Long and with the 9ers having 14 picks and not a lot of turnover at the starting positions, securing the guy they want is most important. The 9ers offer the 31st and 34th pick, math checks out (13th pick is 1150, 31st is 600 and 34th is 560). Jets trade out of 13.

Two hours pass by and Harlem is piss drunk at the draft.

23rd pick, Jets select... Jarvis Jones OLB (assuming he gets past the Steelers at 17).
25th pick, Jets select... Desmond Trufant CB (with Revis gone, we'll need another starter-caliber CB).
31st pick, Jets select... Jonathan Cyprien FS (the Jets have done nothing in FA to address the safety position, so it's safe to assume we'll draft one)
35th pick, Jets select... Keenan Allen WR (1st round talent has now his name associated with Dr. James Andrews, so I'm assuming he'll tumble a little)
39th pick, Jets select... Justin Pugh G/RT
72nd pick, Jets select... Damontre Moore OLB (you think this is a steep drop for the once Top 15 projected prospect? Walter Football has him going at #86)
137th pick, Jets select... Tyran Matheiu CB

So there you have it. I gave us 5 total picks in the Top 40. I believe that this year and next will be all about replentishing the overall talent across the board on this team. As previously mentioned, we currently have ONE starter from the 2008 & 2009 drafts (Marky Mark). That's a serious deficiency and the Jets face the unenviable task of being caught rebuilding while at the same time aging as guys like Mangold and Brick start to turn 30.

I gave us one starter at every position of need. I double dipped at OLB because I deem that to be our biggest weakness and Moore in the 3rd round is a tremendous value. I wanted to double dip at OL but was enticed by better prospects every time. Also, I've been reading a lot of analysis from 2012, and the consensus is that the Jets did marginally better both running and throwing the ball when Ducasse was in the game that when Slausen was in. Maybe Ducasse can still turn it around.

I know this is highly unrealistic but I do believe that the trades are plausable so f*** you.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:12 AM

yup give up revis, move out of the top 10, and get 5 people who wind up to be busts and we wind up as another draft joke as the team that traded revis for scrubs
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:40 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 03 April 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

yup give up revis, move out of the top 10, and get 5 people who wind up to be busts and we wind up as another draft joke as the team that traded revis for scrubs

Negative much? :hysterical:
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:48 AM

Honestly, considering the talent Revis has when on the field in addition to the implementation of the rookie wage scale, the Jets should really get more than that in any potential trade.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:23 PM

LMAO
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:21 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 03 April 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

yup give up revis, move out of the top 10, and get 5 people who wind up to be busts and we wind up as another draft joke as the team that traded revis for scrubs


I'm assuming we end up trading Revis at the draft.

As far as moving out of the Top 10... I'd really like to see that. At #9, we're probably looking at either Austin, Mingo, Luteili or Geno Smith. I think all 4 of those are major reaches at that point.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 03 April 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

LMAO


Bitch please. You hating on my drafting skills?
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 03 April 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

Bitch please. You hating on my drafting skills?


No I just love the thought that went into it and all the trades.

I'm nominating this for thread of the year.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:29 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 03 April 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

I'm assuming we end up trading Revis at the draft.

As far as moving out of the Top 10... I'd really like to see that. At #9, we're probably looking at either Austin, Mingo, Luteili or Geno Smith. I think all 4 of those are major reaches at that point.


BTW i'm not being negative at your post. I just hate the idea of trading revis w/o getting anything proven in return. rookie draft picks are too questionable and the chances of us landing anyone near the caliber of revis is slim to none

also the 1 thing people are forgetting is teh QB factor. we can cut sanchez after this year and use the whiopping money he is making to pay revis instead. the thought of not paying rvis 15 mil but paying sanchez 15 mil instead makes me wanna puke
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