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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:19 PM) no
santana Icon : (Today, 05:45 PM) CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS NOTHING BUT CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

Alright so here's how I'm doing this. I'm going to mock the first 8 overall, so you know who's there once its our turn. I will then mock Jet selections only.

1. Joeckel
2. Jordan
3. Floyd
4. Fisher
5. Ansah
6. Miliner
7. Warmack
8. Patterson
9...

Phone rings inside the Jets war room... It's Rick Speilman, the Vikings GM. He wants to move up and after some back and forth, the Jets agree to give up the 9th pick, the 105th (4th rounder) and the 159th (6th rounder) for the 23rd and 25th overall. The math is close enough (1350 + 84 + 23.8 = 1457.8; 760 + 720 = 1480). Why would the Vikes make this trade? It actually makes perfect sense for them. They have 2 major holes and one area that can use a massive upgrade. Harvin departing left a big void at WR and they can grab Austin at #9 and replace Harvin's production with none of the mind fuckery OR they can take the best DT in the draft, Lotuleili and plug him next to the aging Kevin Williams (33) and bring back their monster D Line. Finally, Geno Smith makes a ton of sense for Minny. He's an immediate upgrade over Ponder and playing in the dome will mask his most glaring weakness. I actually see this happening.

An hour passes by and Tampa is on the clock...

Phone rings inside the Jets war room... it's Idzik's old pal Rick McKay, "Alright you bastard! You smug sunovabitch! You got me! There aint a CB worth 2 shits in this draft and we're trotting out a 54 year old Rhonde Barber against Julio Jones, Colston and Steve Smith. I'll give you the 13th and next years 1st pick for Revis... what do you mean 'No'?! No way... no no no... alright and a 3rd next year. Done."

Jets on the clock...

Phone rings inside the Jets war room... Idzik looks at Rex puzzled... "It's a Bay Area number?". On the other end of the phone is Trent Baalke... he explains to Idzik that the 9ers would like to move ahead of all the 3-4 teams that are about to pick because they want to make sure that they get their man, Bjoern Werner. Justin Smith is turning 34 and is on the last year of his deal. When he got hurt, the 9er pass rush disappeared because Aldon Smith didn't have anyone eating 2 blocks in front of him. Werner compares to Chris Long and with the 9ers having 14 picks and not a lot of turnover at the starting positions, securing the guy they want is most important. The 9ers offer the 31st and 34th pick, math checks out (13th pick is 1150, 31st is 600 and 34th is 560). Jets trade out of 13.

Two hours pass by and Harlem is piss drunk at the draft.

23rd pick, Jets select... Jarvis Jones OLB (assuming he gets past the Steelers at 17).
25th pick, Jets select... Desmond Trufant CB (with Revis gone, we'll need another starter-caliber CB).
31st pick, Jets select... Jonathan Cyprien FS (the Jets have done nothing in FA to address the safety position, so it's safe to assume we'll draft one)
35th pick, Jets select... Keenan Allen WR (1st round talent has now his name associated with Dr. James Andrews, so I'm assuming he'll tumble a little)
39th pick, Jets select... Justin Pugh G/RT
72nd pick, Jets select... Damontre Moore OLB (you think this is a steep drop for the once Top 15 projected prospect? Walter Football has him going at #86)
137th pick, Jets select... Tyran Matheiu CB

So there you have it. I gave us 5 total picks in the Top 40. I believe that this year and next will be all about replentishing the overall talent across the board on this team. As previously mentioned, we currently have ONE starter from the 2008 & 2009 drafts (Marky Mark). That's a serious deficiency and the Jets face the unenviable task of being caught rebuilding while at the same time aging as guys like Mangold and Brick start to turn 30.

I gave us one starter at every position of need. I double dipped at OLB because I deem that to be our biggest weakness and Moore in the 3rd round is a tremendous value. I wanted to double dip at OL but was enticed by better prospects every time. Also, I've been reading a lot of analysis from 2012, and the consensus is that the Jets did marginally better both running and throwing the ball when Ducasse was in the game that when Slausen was in. Maybe Ducasse can still turn it around.

I know this is highly unrealistic but I do believe that the trades are plausable so f*** you.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:12 AM

yup give up revis, move out of the top 10, and get 5 people who wind up to be busts and we wind up as another draft joke as the team that traded revis for scrubs
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:40 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 03 April 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

yup give up revis, move out of the top 10, and get 5 people who wind up to be busts and we wind up as another draft joke as the team that traded revis for scrubs

Negative much? :hysterical:
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:48 AM

Honestly, considering the talent Revis has when on the field in addition to the implementation of the rookie wage scale, the Jets should really get more than that in any potential trade.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:23 PM

LMAO
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:21 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 03 April 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

yup give up revis, move out of the top 10, and get 5 people who wind up to be busts and we wind up as another draft joke as the team that traded revis for scrubs


I'm assuming we end up trading Revis at the draft.

As far as moving out of the Top 10... I'd really like to see that. At #9, we're probably looking at either Austin, Mingo, Luteili or Geno Smith. I think all 4 of those are major reaches at that point.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 03 April 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

LMAO


Bitch please. You hating on my drafting skills?
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 03 April 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

Bitch please. You hating on my drafting skills?


No I just love the thought that went into it and all the trades.

I'm nominating this for thread of the year.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:29 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 03 April 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

I'm assuming we end up trading Revis at the draft.

As far as moving out of the Top 10... I'd really like to see that. At #9, we're probably looking at either Austin, Mingo, Luteili or Geno Smith. I think all 4 of those are major reaches at that point.


BTW i'm not being negative at your post. I just hate the idea of trading revis w/o getting anything proven in return. rookie draft picks are too questionable and the chances of us landing anyone near the caliber of revis is slim to none

also the 1 thing people are forgetting is teh QB factor. we can cut sanchez after this year and use the whiopping money he is making to pay revis instead. the thought of not paying rvis 15 mil but paying sanchez 15 mil instead makes me wanna puke
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