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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) ^^^ agreed
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:25 PM) all the admins on this page should be fired
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:25 PM) for being assclowns
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:17 PM) The Jets are fucked at CB, signing some bums now. We need Milliner to get healthy
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We Should Just Fire John Idzik

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:10 AM

I'm not being rash here. i'm being realistic. its clear he wants to build "his team" and do away with what we had. And i'm ok with it when it comes to guys like devito, pohua, pace, thomas, etc. people who's best years are behind them. but the reason for trading revis makes no sense. you could trade cro and get a high pick, he just came off a probowl year, is healthy, is signed for 3 more years, and is in his prime. you can get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for cro easily. but nopw he wants ot get rid of the best defensive players. and why? is it money? he won't pay revis 15 mil but he'll keep sanchez who si making as much. so keep teh QB who is at the bottom fo teh league over the CB who is at the top? I THINK THIS GUY IS OGING TO DESTROY OUR TEAM and then get fired and we'll eb fucked

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:14 AM

Revis was traded? When?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:33 AM

What do you honestly expect them to do with Sanchez? It's cheaper to keep him. Didn't you make a post about that and say that yourself?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:57 PM

Who is Idzyk
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 08 April 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

What do you honestly expect them to do with Sanchez? It's cheaper to keep him. Didn't you make a post about that and say that yourself?




Its also cheaper to keep Revis as well. If revis is traded, we OWE more money!
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:26 PM

View Post2JBallar01, on 08 April 2013 - 11:01 AM, said:

Its also cheaper to keep Revis as well. If revis is traded, we OWE more money!


exactly. its cheaper to keep them both this year. the decision comes next year. revis will be a FA and want big money, Sanchez will be at the point in his contarct where we can cut him and save a ton of money. He can easily plan to extend revis dumping a bunch of money into next eyar with teh intent of cutting sanchez to make that room. insead he is picking sanchez over revis which is bad
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

It does not make sense to me to trade an elite player either. I know we need alot more talent in other areas and getting all these picks would be great but only if we draft well. How much would it suck if we trade Revis and draft another Vernon? Revis has priced himself out of the Jets unfortunatly but if he can get it good for him. I would rather trade him than have him hit FA next year though.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

lets kill a human
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 April 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

Who is Idzyk


I fixed it and made him a new nickname
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 08 April 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

exactly. its cheaper to keep them both this year. the decision comes next year. revis will be a FA and want big money, Sanchez will be at the point in his contarct where we can cut him and save a ton of money. He can easily plan to extend revis dumping a bunch of money into next eyar with teh intent of cutting sanchez to make that room. insead he is picking sanchez over revis which is bad




I wouldnt say he is picking Sanchez over Revis. I think its all just a big cluster f*** cap room wise. He knows this year he is stuck with Sanchez no matter what. The Revis situation is difficult. He has 1 more year left. He is coming off a ACL injury. I think he knows its best to keep him and extend him for the team BUT he wants to make sure Revis is still.. well Revis Island. I dont believe Revis camp is asking for 15-16 mill a year. I think its closer to 12-13 million a year. Which is still a great chunk of change to someone that might never play at the pre injury kind of level again. With or without Sanchez on the team next year. So, I dont believe he is choosing Sanchez for Revis, I think he is seeing whats out there right now trade wise to see what he COULD get if he thought trading him would be the best move for the team if he feels Revis wont be the old Revis.


Personally, I dont think Revis will be traded. Jets are on a tight budget. It would make no sense to pay more money to a player for trading him when we are already low on cap space this year. A more likely plot is Sanchez either takes a huge pay cut or is released next offseason and they extend Revis if he has a good and healthy season. I also wouldnt be surprised if this conversation hasnt been discussed between the 2 parties. Jets want to see how he will play before they extend him. Thats not being unfair.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

You wonder why this team can't get anything done...fans already calling for the GM to get fired less than 3 months into his tenure. Even before the draft
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

Do you have to throw your brain away when you say "I'M A JETS FAN!!!!"


He is playing this off season perfectly.
1. Wait with Revis. If someone comes and dumps a H.Walker type trade on you- JUMP. If not wait and see what you have with him. If he's 100% sign long term. If you play your hand to soon you're screwed.
2. Draft Picks. Use them wisely.
3. Keep your teams's mouths shut. Fock the media.
4. Don't listen to stupid talking heads in NY- build a TEAM, not headlines.

That's all I have to say about that.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

Oh Yeah.
REVIS IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR THIS SEASON.
WE DON'T NEED TO SIGN HIM LONG TERM TILL AFTER THIS SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i want to play poker with some of the posters here.
you'll fold or go all in before the flop
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:04 PM

View Post2JBallar01, on 08 April 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I wouldnt say he is picking Sanchez over Revis. I think its all just a big cluster f*** cap room wise. He knows this year he is stuck with Sanchez no matter what. The Revis situation is difficult. He has 1 more year left. He is coming off a ACL injury. I think he knows its best to keep him and extend him for the team BUT he wants to make sure Revis is still.. well Revis Island. I dont believe Revis camp is asking for 15-16 mill a year. I think its closer to 12-13 million a year. Which is still a great chunk of change to someone that might never play at the pre injury kind of level again. With or without Sanchez on the team next year. So, I dont believe he is choosing Sanchez for Revis, I think he is seeing whats out there right now trade wise to see what he COULD get if he thought trading him would be the best move for the team if he feels Revis wont be the old Revis.


Personally, I dont think Revis will be traded. Jets are on a tight budget. It would make no sense to pay more money to a player for trading him when we are already low on cap space this year. A more likely plot is Sanchez either takes a huge pay cut or is released next offseason and they extend Revis if he has a good and healthy season. I also wouldnt be surprised if this conversation hasnt been discussed between the 2 parties. Jets want to see how he will play before they extend him. Thats not being unfair.


we have plenty of cap room as it is w/o any big names to resign. we let keller and slauson all walk for cheap 1 year deals taht we could have matched but chose not to. both are yung un their prime amd left holes.

the cap is fine, sanchez can be cut next year for huge savings. holmes took a pay cut, and he hans't improved the roster at all. free agency is done at this point. he has to draft but trading away your bets player is always dumb
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:04 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 08 April 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

You wonder why this team can't get anything done...fans already calling for the GM to get fired less than 3 months into his tenure. Even before the draft


i've always been the wait and see benefit of the doubt but i think he is screwing up big time right away
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:11 PM

View PostDamonWB, on 08 April 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Do you have to throw your brain away when you say "I'M A JETS FAN!!!!"


He is playing this off season perfectly.
1. Wait with Revis. If someone comes and dumps a H.Walker type trade on you- JUMP. If not wait and see what you have with him. If he's 100% sign long term. If you play your hand to soon you're screwed.
2. Draft Picks. Use them wisely.
3. Keep your teams's mouths shut. Fock the media.
4. Don't listen to stupid talking heads in NY- build a TEAM, not headlines.

That's all I have to say about that.


1) he isn't playing wait and see. he is playing piss off my star player in his contract year and force myself into HAVING to trade him at a discounted rate. if he was SMART or PLAYING IT RIGHT he would have told revis that he'll give him 8 weeks into the season and ig he is back to form they can work out a deal. and he could be back handed and trade him right before the deadline to a team with playoff hopes in need of a CB at a good price if he proves to be revis. we've seen it doen before or give him the extension after proven he's healthy. revis knows business is business but you never want to alienate your bets player leaving him in the dark .
2) even the best scouts know its a crapshoot. its a gamble. its playing blackjack at the casino. hitting on 11 seems like a sure bet until you get a 5 and have to make a tough decision afterwards. even the bets team only get production out of half their top 4 picks and maybe 20% out of 5th round and later picks.
3) instead idzik is letting the media make him out to look like a bad guy already
4) what team have we built? don't be blind. we don't even have a staring lineup and there sin't enough pciks in our draft to field a team
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:42 PM

MY star player.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 April 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

MY star player.

Argggg


also doesn't it concern you that he is getting rid of "rex's" guys. you think you'd want your coach to have his players at least
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

It isn't Idzik's call... Woody Johnson doesn't want to pay him.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:21 PM

Haven't we been through this countless times already? You guys keep saying its cheaper to keep Revis. PLEASE explain to me how its cheaper to take a total of 18 million in cap hits for him the be here for only 2013 than it is to trade him, take the 12 million hit and get multiple picks in return?

Idzik is doing the RIGHT thing with Revis. Revis didn't even want to come to workouts other than for a checkup and then go back to Arizona than work with the team staff. Idzik says, if you want those bonuses you'll honor the contract and get your ass in Florham Park. I'm glad we finally have someone with the balls to not kiss Revis' ass.

Revis seriously needs a dose of humility like Aso decided to swallow. Rather than playing for 15 million like he was about to, Aso's playing for 3. To send a message to the league that he's got a chip on his shoulder and it's not just a coincidence that he & Revis will both be unrestricted free agents at the same time after the 2013 season. Throw in the fact that he's got a real shot at a ring with the 49ers, he is playing for what Revis is due just in bonuses.

Idzik is smart as hell. He's making Revis work out with the team at the team facility rather than simply accepting the doctor reports that Revis is paying to be sent to the team. The Jets staff can then evaluate Revis' rehab progress so they can see what kind of TRUE timetable he may be on with his rehab so that they can determine his value either to go into negotiations with Revis or trade negotiations. Tanny would've just let Revis stay out in Arizona and just continue to pay him right util the day he walked out of Florham Park for good to sign with Tampa or someone else after the 2013 season.

So let the hater comments begin........but before you do.....keep in mind that I've already stated that if Revis looks like he could return to form, offer him a deal of 9-10 per year with escalators that will allow him to go to 13+ to make him the highest paid DB in the league. If he keeps saying he wants more, that'll be more than enough evidence that he wants to be the highest paid defensive player period. I personally don't think he'll get the mega-deal he thinks he can get at 15-16+ per year anywhere but Tampa & they may just draft someone if they can't get him before or on draft day.
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