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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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We Should Just Fire John Idzik

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:10 AM

I'm not being rash here. i'm being realistic. its clear he wants to build "his team" and do away with what we had. And i'm ok with it when it comes to guys like devito, pohua, pace, thomas, etc. people who's best years are behind them. but the reason for trading revis makes no sense. you could trade cro and get a high pick, he just came off a probowl year, is healthy, is signed for 3 more years, and is in his prime. you can get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for cro easily. but nopw he wants ot get rid of the best defensive players. and why? is it money? he won't pay revis 15 mil but he'll keep sanchez who si making as much. so keep teh QB who is at the bottom fo teh league over the CB who is at the top? I THINK THIS GUY IS OGING TO DESTROY OUR TEAM and then get fired and we'll eb fucked

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:14 AM

Revis was traded? When?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:33 AM

What do you honestly expect them to do with Sanchez? It's cheaper to keep him. Didn't you make a post about that and say that yourself?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:57 PM

Who is Idzyk
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 08 April 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

What do you honestly expect them to do with Sanchez? It's cheaper to keep him. Didn't you make a post about that and say that yourself?




Its also cheaper to keep Revis as well. If revis is traded, we OWE more money!
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:26 PM

View Post2JBallar01, on 08 April 2013 - 11:01 AM, said:

Its also cheaper to keep Revis as well. If revis is traded, we OWE more money!


exactly. its cheaper to keep them both this year. the decision comes next year. revis will be a FA and want big money, Sanchez will be at the point in his contarct where we can cut him and save a ton of money. He can easily plan to extend revis dumping a bunch of money into next eyar with teh intent of cutting sanchez to make that room. insead he is picking sanchez over revis which is bad
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

It does not make sense to me to trade an elite player either. I know we need alot more talent in other areas and getting all these picks would be great but only if we draft well. How much would it suck if we trade Revis and draft another Vernon? Revis has priced himself out of the Jets unfortunatly but if he can get it good for him. I would rather trade him than have him hit FA next year though.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

lets kill a human
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 April 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

Who is Idzyk


I fixed it and made him a new nickname
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 08 April 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

exactly. its cheaper to keep them both this year. the decision comes next year. revis will be a FA and want big money, Sanchez will be at the point in his contarct where we can cut him and save a ton of money. He can easily plan to extend revis dumping a bunch of money into next eyar with teh intent of cutting sanchez to make that room. insead he is picking sanchez over revis which is bad




I wouldnt say he is picking Sanchez over Revis. I think its all just a big cluster f*** cap room wise. He knows this year he is stuck with Sanchez no matter what. The Revis situation is difficult. He has 1 more year left. He is coming off a ACL injury. I think he knows its best to keep him and extend him for the team BUT he wants to make sure Revis is still.. well Revis Island. I dont believe Revis camp is asking for 15-16 mill a year. I think its closer to 12-13 million a year. Which is still a great chunk of change to someone that might never play at the pre injury kind of level again. With or without Sanchez on the team next year. So, I dont believe he is choosing Sanchez for Revis, I think he is seeing whats out there right now trade wise to see what he COULD get if he thought trading him would be the best move for the team if he feels Revis wont be the old Revis.


Personally, I dont think Revis will be traded. Jets are on a tight budget. It would make no sense to pay more money to a player for trading him when we are already low on cap space this year. A more likely plot is Sanchez either takes a huge pay cut or is released next offseason and they extend Revis if he has a good and healthy season. I also wouldnt be surprised if this conversation hasnt been discussed between the 2 parties. Jets want to see how he will play before they extend him. Thats not being unfair.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

You wonder why this team can't get anything done...fans already calling for the GM to get fired less than 3 months into his tenure. Even before the draft
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

Do you have to throw your brain away when you say "I'M A JETS FAN!!!!"


He is playing this off season perfectly.
1. Wait with Revis. If someone comes and dumps a H.Walker type trade on you- JUMP. If not wait and see what you have with him. If he's 100% sign long term. If you play your hand to soon you're screwed.
2. Draft Picks. Use them wisely.
3. Keep your teams's mouths shut. Fock the media.
4. Don't listen to stupid talking heads in NY- build a TEAM, not headlines.

That's all I have to say about that.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

Oh Yeah.
REVIS IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR THIS SEASON.
WE DON'T NEED TO SIGN HIM LONG TERM TILL AFTER THIS SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i want to play poker with some of the posters here.
you'll fold or go all in before the flop
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:04 PM

View Post2JBallar01, on 08 April 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I wouldnt say he is picking Sanchez over Revis. I think its all just a big cluster f*** cap room wise. He knows this year he is stuck with Sanchez no matter what. The Revis situation is difficult. He has 1 more year left. He is coming off a ACL injury. I think he knows its best to keep him and extend him for the team BUT he wants to make sure Revis is still.. well Revis Island. I dont believe Revis camp is asking for 15-16 mill a year. I think its closer to 12-13 million a year. Which is still a great chunk of change to someone that might never play at the pre injury kind of level again. With or without Sanchez on the team next year. So, I dont believe he is choosing Sanchez for Revis, I think he is seeing whats out there right now trade wise to see what he COULD get if he thought trading him would be the best move for the team if he feels Revis wont be the old Revis.


Personally, I dont think Revis will be traded. Jets are on a tight budget. It would make no sense to pay more money to a player for trading him when we are already low on cap space this year. A more likely plot is Sanchez either takes a huge pay cut or is released next offseason and they extend Revis if he has a good and healthy season. I also wouldnt be surprised if this conversation hasnt been discussed between the 2 parties. Jets want to see how he will play before they extend him. Thats not being unfair.


we have plenty of cap room as it is w/o any big names to resign. we let keller and slauson all walk for cheap 1 year deals taht we could have matched but chose not to. both are yung un their prime amd left holes.

the cap is fine, sanchez can be cut next year for huge savings. holmes took a pay cut, and he hans't improved the roster at all. free agency is done at this point. he has to draft but trading away your bets player is always dumb
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:04 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 08 April 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

You wonder why this team can't get anything done...fans already calling for the GM to get fired less than 3 months into his tenure. Even before the draft


i've always been the wait and see benefit of the doubt but i think he is screwing up big time right away
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:11 PM

View PostDamonWB, on 08 April 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Do you have to throw your brain away when you say "I'M A JETS FAN!!!!"


He is playing this off season perfectly.
1. Wait with Revis. If someone comes and dumps a H.Walker type trade on you- JUMP. If not wait and see what you have with him. If he's 100% sign long term. If you play your hand to soon you're screwed.
2. Draft Picks. Use them wisely.
3. Keep your teams's mouths shut. Fock the media.
4. Don't listen to stupid talking heads in NY- build a TEAM, not headlines.

That's all I have to say about that.


1) he isn't playing wait and see. he is playing piss off my star player in his contract year and force myself into HAVING to trade him at a discounted rate. if he was SMART or PLAYING IT RIGHT he would have told revis that he'll give him 8 weeks into the season and ig he is back to form they can work out a deal. and he could be back handed and trade him right before the deadline to a team with playoff hopes in need of a CB at a good price if he proves to be revis. we've seen it doen before or give him the extension after proven he's healthy. revis knows business is business but you never want to alienate your bets player leaving him in the dark .
2) even the best scouts know its a crapshoot. its a gamble. its playing blackjack at the casino. hitting on 11 seems like a sure bet until you get a 5 and have to make a tough decision afterwards. even the bets team only get production out of half their top 4 picks and maybe 20% out of 5th round and later picks.
3) instead idzik is letting the media make him out to look like a bad guy already
4) what team have we built? don't be blind. we don't even have a staring lineup and there sin't enough pciks in our draft to field a team
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:42 PM

MY star player.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 April 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

MY star player.

Argggg


also doesn't it concern you that he is getting rid of "rex's" guys. you think you'd want your coach to have his players at least
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

It isn't Idzik's call... Woody Johnson doesn't want to pay him.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:21 PM

Haven't we been through this countless times already? You guys keep saying its cheaper to keep Revis. PLEASE explain to me how its cheaper to take a total of 18 million in cap hits for him the be here for only 2013 than it is to trade him, take the 12 million hit and get multiple picks in return?

Idzik is doing the RIGHT thing with Revis. Revis didn't even want to come to workouts other than for a checkup and then go back to Arizona than work with the team staff. Idzik says, if you want those bonuses you'll honor the contract and get your ass in Florham Park. I'm glad we finally have someone with the balls to not kiss Revis' ass.

Revis seriously needs a dose of humility like Aso decided to swallow. Rather than playing for 15 million like he was about to, Aso's playing for 3. To send a message to the league that he's got a chip on his shoulder and it's not just a coincidence that he & Revis will both be unrestricted free agents at the same time after the 2013 season. Throw in the fact that he's got a real shot at a ring with the 49ers, he is playing for what Revis is due just in bonuses.

Idzik is smart as hell. He's making Revis work out with the team at the team facility rather than simply accepting the doctor reports that Revis is paying to be sent to the team. The Jets staff can then evaluate Revis' rehab progress so they can see what kind of TRUE timetable he may be on with his rehab so that they can determine his value either to go into negotiations with Revis or trade negotiations. Tanny would've just let Revis stay out in Arizona and just continue to pay him right util the day he walked out of Florham Park for good to sign with Tampa or someone else after the 2013 season.

So let the hater comments begin........but before you do.....keep in mind that I've already stated that if Revis looks like he could return to form, offer him a deal of 9-10 per year with escalators that will allow him to go to 13+ to make him the highest paid DB in the league. If he keeps saying he wants more, that'll be more than enough evidence that he wants to be the highest paid defensive player period. I personally don't think he'll get the mega-deal he thinks he can get at 15-16+ per year anywhere but Tampa & they may just draft someone if they can't get him before or on draft day.
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