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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:10 AM

I'm not being rash here. i'm being realistic. its clear he wants to build "his team" and do away with what we had. And i'm ok with it when it comes to guys like devito, pohua, pace, thomas, etc. people who's best years are behind them. but the reason for trading revis makes no sense. you could trade cro and get a high pick, he just came off a probowl year, is healthy, is signed for 3 more years, and is in his prime. you can get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for cro easily. but nopw he wants ot get rid of the best defensive players. and why? is it money? he won't pay revis 15 mil but he'll keep sanchez who si making as much. so keep teh QB who is at the bottom fo teh league over the CB who is at the top? I THINK THIS GUY IS OGING TO DESTROY OUR TEAM and then get fired and we'll eb fucked

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:14 AM

Revis was traded? When?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:33 AM

What do you honestly expect them to do with Sanchez? It's cheaper to keep him. Didn't you make a post about that and say that yourself?
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:57 PM

Who is Idzyk
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 08 April 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

What do you honestly expect them to do with Sanchez? It's cheaper to keep him. Didn't you make a post about that and say that yourself?




Its also cheaper to keep Revis as well. If revis is traded, we OWE more money!
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:26 PM

View Post2JBallar01, on 08 April 2013 - 11:01 AM, said:

Its also cheaper to keep Revis as well. If revis is traded, we OWE more money!


exactly. its cheaper to keep them both this year. the decision comes next year. revis will be a FA and want big money, Sanchez will be at the point in his contarct where we can cut him and save a ton of money. He can easily plan to extend revis dumping a bunch of money into next eyar with teh intent of cutting sanchez to make that room. insead he is picking sanchez over revis which is bad
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

It does not make sense to me to trade an elite player either. I know we need alot more talent in other areas and getting all these picks would be great but only if we draft well. How much would it suck if we trade Revis and draft another Vernon? Revis has priced himself out of the Jets unfortunatly but if he can get it good for him. I would rather trade him than have him hit FA next year though.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

lets kill a human
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 April 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

Who is Idzyk


I fixed it and made him a new nickname
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 08 April 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

exactly. its cheaper to keep them both this year. the decision comes next year. revis will be a FA and want big money, Sanchez will be at the point in his contarct where we can cut him and save a ton of money. He can easily plan to extend revis dumping a bunch of money into next eyar with teh intent of cutting sanchez to make that room. insead he is picking sanchez over revis which is bad




I wouldnt say he is picking Sanchez over Revis. I think its all just a big cluster f*** cap room wise. He knows this year he is stuck with Sanchez no matter what. The Revis situation is difficult. He has 1 more year left. He is coming off a ACL injury. I think he knows its best to keep him and extend him for the team BUT he wants to make sure Revis is still.. well Revis Island. I dont believe Revis camp is asking for 15-16 mill a year. I think its closer to 12-13 million a year. Which is still a great chunk of change to someone that might never play at the pre injury kind of level again. With or without Sanchez on the team next year. So, I dont believe he is choosing Sanchez for Revis, I think he is seeing whats out there right now trade wise to see what he COULD get if he thought trading him would be the best move for the team if he feels Revis wont be the old Revis.


Personally, I dont think Revis will be traded. Jets are on a tight budget. It would make no sense to pay more money to a player for trading him when we are already low on cap space this year. A more likely plot is Sanchez either takes a huge pay cut or is released next offseason and they extend Revis if he has a good and healthy season. I also wouldnt be surprised if this conversation hasnt been discussed between the 2 parties. Jets want to see how he will play before they extend him. Thats not being unfair.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

You wonder why this team can't get anything done...fans already calling for the GM to get fired less than 3 months into his tenure. Even before the draft
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

Do you have to throw your brain away when you say "I'M A JETS FAN!!!!"


He is playing this off season perfectly.
1. Wait with Revis. If someone comes and dumps a H.Walker type trade on you- JUMP. If not wait and see what you have with him. If he's 100% sign long term. If you play your hand to soon you're screwed.
2. Draft Picks. Use them wisely.
3. Keep your teams's mouths shut. Fock the media.
4. Don't listen to stupid talking heads in NY- build a TEAM, not headlines.

That's all I have to say about that.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

Oh Yeah.
REVIS IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR THIS SEASON.
WE DON'T NEED TO SIGN HIM LONG TERM TILL AFTER THIS SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i want to play poker with some of the posters here.
you'll fold or go all in before the flop
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:04 PM

View Post2JBallar01, on 08 April 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I wouldnt say he is picking Sanchez over Revis. I think its all just a big cluster f*** cap room wise. He knows this year he is stuck with Sanchez no matter what. The Revis situation is difficult. He has 1 more year left. He is coming off a ACL injury. I think he knows its best to keep him and extend him for the team BUT he wants to make sure Revis is still.. well Revis Island. I dont believe Revis camp is asking for 15-16 mill a year. I think its closer to 12-13 million a year. Which is still a great chunk of change to someone that might never play at the pre injury kind of level again. With or without Sanchez on the team next year. So, I dont believe he is choosing Sanchez for Revis, I think he is seeing whats out there right now trade wise to see what he COULD get if he thought trading him would be the best move for the team if he feels Revis wont be the old Revis.


Personally, I dont think Revis will be traded. Jets are on a tight budget. It would make no sense to pay more money to a player for trading him when we are already low on cap space this year. A more likely plot is Sanchez either takes a huge pay cut or is released next offseason and they extend Revis if he has a good and healthy season. I also wouldnt be surprised if this conversation hasnt been discussed between the 2 parties. Jets want to see how he will play before they extend him. Thats not being unfair.


we have plenty of cap room as it is w/o any big names to resign. we let keller and slauson all walk for cheap 1 year deals taht we could have matched but chose not to. both are yung un their prime amd left holes.

the cap is fine, sanchez can be cut next year for huge savings. holmes took a pay cut, and he hans't improved the roster at all. free agency is done at this point. he has to draft but trading away your bets player is always dumb
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:04 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 08 April 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

You wonder why this team can't get anything done...fans already calling for the GM to get fired less than 3 months into his tenure. Even before the draft


i've always been the wait and see benefit of the doubt but i think he is screwing up big time right away
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:11 PM

View PostDamonWB, on 08 April 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

Do you have to throw your brain away when you say "I'M A JETS FAN!!!!"


He is playing this off season perfectly.
1. Wait with Revis. If someone comes and dumps a H.Walker type trade on you- JUMP. If not wait and see what you have with him. If he's 100% sign long term. If you play your hand to soon you're screwed.
2. Draft Picks. Use them wisely.
3. Keep your teams's mouths shut. Fock the media.
4. Don't listen to stupid talking heads in NY- build a TEAM, not headlines.

That's all I have to say about that.


1) he isn't playing wait and see. he is playing piss off my star player in his contract year and force myself into HAVING to trade him at a discounted rate. if he was SMART or PLAYING IT RIGHT he would have told revis that he'll give him 8 weeks into the season and ig he is back to form they can work out a deal. and he could be back handed and trade him right before the deadline to a team with playoff hopes in need of a CB at a good price if he proves to be revis. we've seen it doen before or give him the extension after proven he's healthy. revis knows business is business but you never want to alienate your bets player leaving him in the dark .
2) even the best scouts know its a crapshoot. its a gamble. its playing blackjack at the casino. hitting on 11 seems like a sure bet until you get a 5 and have to make a tough decision afterwards. even the bets team only get production out of half their top 4 picks and maybe 20% out of 5th round and later picks.
3) instead idzik is letting the media make him out to look like a bad guy already
4) what team have we built? don't be blind. we don't even have a staring lineup and there sin't enough pciks in our draft to field a team
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:42 PM

MY star player.

Argggg
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 08 April 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

MY star player.

Argggg


also doesn't it concern you that he is getting rid of "rex's" guys. you think you'd want your coach to have his players at least
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

It isn't Idzik's call... Woody Johnson doesn't want to pay him.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:21 PM

Haven't we been through this countless times already? You guys keep saying its cheaper to keep Revis. PLEASE explain to me how its cheaper to take a total of 18 million in cap hits for him the be here for only 2013 than it is to trade him, take the 12 million hit and get multiple picks in return?

Idzik is doing the RIGHT thing with Revis. Revis didn't even want to come to workouts other than for a checkup and then go back to Arizona than work with the team staff. Idzik says, if you want those bonuses you'll honor the contract and get your ass in Florham Park. I'm glad we finally have someone with the balls to not kiss Revis' ass.

Revis seriously needs a dose of humility like Aso decided to swallow. Rather than playing for 15 million like he was about to, Aso's playing for 3. To send a message to the league that he's got a chip on his shoulder and it's not just a coincidence that he & Revis will both be unrestricted free agents at the same time after the 2013 season. Throw in the fact that he's got a real shot at a ring with the 49ers, he is playing for what Revis is due just in bonuses.

Idzik is smart as hell. He's making Revis work out with the team at the team facility rather than simply accepting the doctor reports that Revis is paying to be sent to the team. The Jets staff can then evaluate Revis' rehab progress so they can see what kind of TRUE timetable he may be on with his rehab so that they can determine his value either to go into negotiations with Revis or trade negotiations. Tanny would've just let Revis stay out in Arizona and just continue to pay him right util the day he walked out of Florham Park for good to sign with Tampa or someone else after the 2013 season.

So let the hater comments begin........but before you do.....keep in mind that I've already stated that if Revis looks like he could return to form, offer him a deal of 9-10 per year with escalators that will allow him to go to 13+ to make him the highest paid DB in the league. If he keeps saying he wants more, that'll be more than enough evidence that he wants to be the highest paid defensive player period. I personally don't think he'll get the mega-deal he thinks he can get at 15-16+ per year anywhere but Tampa & they may just draft someone if they can't get him before or on draft day.
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