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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
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Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
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How Student Debt Is Hurting Our Economy

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:18 AM

How student debt is hurting our economy

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Nearly 42 percent of 25-year-olds have student debt. That's bad news for the housing and auto industries

Student debt is climbing and dragging our economy down in the process, according to a new report by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

In 2002, 25 percent of 25-year-olds had student debt. In 2012, that number jumped to 42 percent, with the average amount of debt ringing in at $20,326. The result? Young people are much less likely to buy a home or car.


For a long time, people with student debt were actually more likely to take out a home mortgage or auto loan than those who didn't because, as college graduates, they made more money. That all changed after the start of the Great Recession.

Now it's the opposite: Young people with student debt are taking out fewer house and car loans than those without. The Washington Post's Brad Plumer breaks down why this might be happening:


One possibility is that younger Americans burdened by heavy student loans are simply unwilling to take on further debt. Perhaps they're worried about their future job and income prospects, especially in this dismal economy. (Remember, students who are unlucky enough to graduate during the recession typically have lower lifetime earnings.)

Another (related) possibility is that lenders are becoming stingier. There's decent evidence for this: The study finds that younger Americans with student debt have seen their credit risk scores plummet relative to those without. Banks and other lenders seem to be scared away from people with student loans — especially since delinquency rates are rising. [Washington Post]

As Bloomberg's Kathleen Howley points out, many students were forced into student debt because, after the housing crash, their parents could no longer take out big home equity loans to pay for college. This vicious cycle has resulted in the home ownership rate dipping to 65.4 percent, its lowest level since 1997.
SEE MORE: Apple's stock price reaches new low: Why are investors so jittery?

In his budget, President Obama proposed tying student loans to the rate on a 10-year Treasury bond, which, according to Businessweek, would bring subsidized, unsubsidized, and grad school loan rates down significantly (provided the economy doesn't pick up). He also wants to expand the program that caps loan payments at 10 percent of a person's income.

Of course, that all depends on the White House and Congress actually agreeing on something. For now, it looks like 20-somethings aren't likely to get out of debt anytime soon.


http://news.yahoo.co...-073000999.html

Kinda an interesting read for those with financial interests.

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Another (related) possibility is that lenders are becoming stingier


Banks have opened the door again to alot of lending since the original housing crash. Most standards for loan origination have relaxed for not only consumer but for business as well. I think where this writer was confused is with debt ratio. Most banks (for portfolio or saleable) are looking for a debt ratio of 45% or less. When you factor in the 100s of dollars of student loan payments per month and the decreased income we are all feeling this makes debt ratios the real problem not the banks "stingy" lending practices. Also when an underwriter looks at a application a debt is a debt. It all goes towards the ratio. Dollars paying Student loans, Medical, consumer or mortgage loans are all equal. A dollar is a dollar.

I dont know if any of you listen to Clark Howard but he is 100% against taking out a loan to pay for school. Alot of financial people agree. He would rather you pay as you go. Work more take less classes take more time to earn a degree and not have this debt over your head for 10-15 years or more. Makes alot of sense unless your degree will guarantee a high paying profession in a high demand field, Like maybe a doctor, nurse practitioner etc. Where you can pay them back quickly.

Obama wanting to tie the market to the rate is a bad idea in the long term. I am all for lowering rates but it needs to be fixed. It may save money now but rates can only go up from here so what would your interest rate be in 3 years? Setting up another bubble to break in the future when the rates shoots up and people cant afford the 20% rate on there $40K in loans. There would need to be a cap and a floor on the rate. The problem is it would make it a undesirable loan for banks. Also keep in mind that a bank will view a loan without a fixed rate as a higher risk (credit card line of credits etc). This would also hurt your debt ratio since they may (and probably will) use a higher payment than what your payment actually is since they have to account for the rate adjusting. Anyway... Good read but I have some different views.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:06 PM

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:31 PM

The real problem isn't student loan debt but rising tuition costs. Students are taking out larger loans because they're paying more in tuition. If we (as a nation) paid 100% of the tuition costs for every student that goes to a public university or community college, there wouldn't be a student debt crisis. Student loans should be just for people who want to go to a private university. We already fund K-12 education. We might as well just extend it right through college too.

But of course we can't do that because we have to continue to fight the Cold War (which ended decades ago) and give the Department of Defensive an unnecessarily large budget.
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:03 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 18 April 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

The real problem isn't student loan debt but rising tuition costs. Students are taking out larger loans because they're paying more in tuition. If we (as a nation) paid 100% of the tuition costs for every student that goes to a public university or community college, there wouldn't be a student debt crisis. Student loans should be just for people who want to go to a private university. We already fund K-12 education. We might as well just extend it right through college too.

But of course we can't do that because we have to continue to fight the Cold War (which ended decades ago) and give the Department of Defensive an unnecessarily large budget.


Yup, but we can push it even further down the river if we want to. We could say that there are not enough quality Schools to push the cost of tuition down.

I would much rather pay for school over a war but I would rather just lower taxes overall. The thing about sending everyone to school is that those who can afford it would go to the next step creating his whole problem again but with even more expense.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:05 PM

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:15 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 18 April 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Yup, but we can push it even further down the river if we want to. We could say that there are not enough quality Schools to push the cost of tuition down.

I would much rather pay for school over a war but I would rather just lower taxes overall. The thing about sending everyone to school is that those who can afford it would go to the next step creating his whole problem again but with even more expense.



I don't think more tax cuts is the answer to this problem. Especially when one of the main reasons tuition has gone up is because states have cut funding to the public universities.
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

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2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:23 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 18 April 2013 - 07:15 PM, said:

I don't think more tax cuts is the answer to this problem. Especially when one of the main reasons tuition has gone up is because states have cut funding to the public universities.

You have a valid point. I think if everyone has the same opportunity cost free the people who can afford it will do extra to get an edge. Then we are back in the same boat in a few years. When is enough enough?
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:41 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 18 April 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

You have a valid point. I think if everyone has the same opportunity cost free the people who can afford it will do extra to get an edge. Then we are back in the same boat in a few years. When is enough enough?



There are many more people who can't afford it than people who can. The people who can afford tuition (because of Mom and Dad) usually have things like legacies helping them and could afford to go to a private university if they wanted to. Like I said if we cut some things (like a good chunk of the DoD's budget), we could at the very least keep the states from feeling the need to cut funding to the public universities, which would help keep tuition from going up. Thus getting rid of the student loan crisis. High administration costs at these universities aren't helping matters either.
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:58 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 18 April 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

There are many more people who can't afford it than people who can. The people who can afford tuition (because of Mom and Dad) usually have things like legacies helping them and could afford to go to a private university if they wanted to. Like I said if we cut some things (like a good chunk of the DoD's budget), we could at the very least keep the states from feeling the need to cut funding to the public universities, which would help keep tuition from going up. Thus getting rid of the student loan crisis. High administration costs at these universities aren't helping matters either.

I don't know if it would get rid of loans though. Unless there were no lending for school. In our culture it's never enough. I don't know about where you are but "legacy" money is not real big in the areas I have lived and worked in finance. Nursing homes final medical etc..pretty much wipe it out
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:56 PM

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren wants student loans to get Fed discount rate

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WASHINGTON -- Students taking out government loans to help pay for college should pay the same rock-bottom interest rate that the Federal Reserve charges big banks, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) proposed Wednesday.

With the interest rate on federal student loans set to double to 6.8% this summer, Warren said it's unfair that big banks can borrow money at 0.75% from the central bank's discount window.

"In other words, the federal government’s going to charge interest rates nine times higher than the rates they charge the biggest banks -- the same banks that destroyed millions of jobs and nearly broke the economy," Warren said in introducing her first stand-alone bill since taking office in January.

"That isn't right," she said.

Warren, a longtime consumer advocate, defeated incumbent Republican Scott Brown in November in the nation's most expensive Senate race. She won with strong backing from liberals, who cheered her embrace of the Occupy Wall Street movement and outspoken criticism of big banks. Warren's first bill, which likely stands little chance of passage, takes a swipe at Wall Street while advocating for more government help for average Americans.

Warren acknowledged that the Fed's policy, which also includes a near-0% federal funds rate, is designed to help boost the economy by providing cheap credit.
But, she said, "our students are just as important to the economic recovery as our banks." "Let's face it: Banks get a great deal when they borrow money from the Fed," she said. "In effect, the American taxpayer is investing in those banks." "We should make the same kind of investment in our young people who are trying to get an education," Warren said. The Bank on Students Loan Fairness Act would direct the Fed to make money available to the Education Department for one year at the discount window rate to fund federally subsidized Stafford student loans.

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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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