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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Revis Officially Traded To Bucs 1st rd 2013 & 4th rd 2014

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:27 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 April 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

So you think we SHOULD have paid 16 million per year for him?


Yup.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:52 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 21 April 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

Yup.

Why exactly is he worth more than every pass rusher in the league not named Mario when he doesn't affect the game to nearly the same degree? You really believe he's worth top 5 QB money?
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:28 AM

Ugh. A first this and a fourth next year, which could become a third rounder?! You wonder why negotiations took so long given how meagre the compensation was!
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:54 AM

This trade was so bad all we can do is laugh about it now.

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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
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4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:40 AM

What I want to know is why Tampa was the only team seriously interested in trading for Revis?

If you could have the best CB in the league for a 1st and conditional mid round pick next year....you would think ANY team would go for that. And then you put on top of that the contract has ZERO guarantees...

What does this mean?

Do teams not think he will be the same after the injury?

Do teams not want to pay a corner, even if he is the best, 16 million per year?
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:10 AM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 22 April 2013 - 12:52 AM, said:

Why exactly is he worth more than every pass rusher in the league not named Mario when he doesn't affect the game to nearly the same degree? You really believe he's worth top 5 QB money?


Revis is a better CB than every pass rusher currently is at rushing the passer. The fact that he signed for $0 guaranteed money makes this a year by year performance based contract. Should he stop being the best CB, the Bucs will cut him at no additional cost. The fact that he makes "To 5 QB Money" is irrelevant. You can't get a Top 5 QB in Free Agency. They just don't hit the market. What the Jets have now is about $50M in cap space in 2014. With all that money, we still can't get a Top 5 QB. We can't even get a Top 5 anything, but we ended up "saving" by letting the #1 CB go. What I'm getting at is that the cap space won't be used on anyone of Revis caliber, because those players just aren't available on the market.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:06 AM

Wow the 2012 season just doesn't end

I don't like this move at all

After re signing pace on shorter money and letting Revis walk its getting to be a bit more clear that idzik isn't here to improve the teams talent just tighten up the books
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 10:17 AM

View Postbluelinecop, on 21 April 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

Seriously am I the only person disgusted with this trade?



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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:07 PM

View Postchocomag, on 21 April 2013 - 09:29 PM, said:

This was the right move no matter what emotional feelings you had. Revis was my favorite Jet but the decision was the correct one under the circumstances.

I can see the logic but something about having to keep and pay Sanchez, who basically got booed out of the garden Saturday and SUCKS and sending the best jet ever (maybe tied with Curtis Martin) packing stinks to high hell. Thanks for getting Tebow and giving Mark even more money to sooth his feelings. I wish owners could be fired because we have a terrible one. I miss Leon Hess!
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:21 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 22 April 2013 - 07:40 AM, said:

Do teams not think he will be the same after the injury?

Do teams not want to pay a corner, even if he is the best, 16 million per year?


No to both of your questions. No. People don't believe he'll be the same after the injury & absolutely no one but Tampa (and Tannenbaum for a couple years) apparently believes he's worth 16 million per year. No CB is worth 16 per year. That's franchise QBG money. Revis doesn't bring that same effect on a game to the table.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:57 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 22 April 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

No to both of your questions. No. People don't believe he'll be the same after the injury & absolutely no one but Tampa (and Tannenbaum for a couple years) apparently believes he's worth 16 million per year. No CB is worth 16 per year. That's franchise QBG money. Revis doesn't bring that same effect on a game to the table.


Plus he's a greedy little street thug. We must not forget that.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 03:30 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 21 April 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

Everyone is all worked up about how bad we're going to be, and I'll probably catch flack for saying this. But we NEED TO BE BAD. We need to tear down and rise from the ashes, not to toil in mediocrity for the next 5 years. We need a franchise QB, and you get one of those by sucking, just ask the Colts. Do we wanna be the Bucs (or replace the word "Bucs" with "Chargers", "Vikings", "Bears", or "Cowboys") for the next 5 years? A team considered "always on the fringe" led by a slightly above average QB who will probably never lead them to the Ship? Can't we just have a bright future for once? We need to shoot for another franchise quarterback, not a 2nd round Ryan Nassib or Tyler Wilson to manage games for the next half decade. I want I guy that can WIN games, and I'll exchange one horrendously shitty season for a shot at a decade of 10 win seasons.

To answer 2 of your questions, we did have a bright future Ryan/Sanchez first year with TJ, Green, Leon Wash and Revis. At the time it was bright with Rex calling the def. and having the best running combo in the league to compliment Sanchez that season. We did have a guy that can WIN games, he just can't throw, but he wins nontheless. He had to play more downs to do that.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 05:40 PM

View Postblk_orion, on 22 April 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

To answer 2 of your questions, we did have a bright future Ryan/Sanchez first year with TJ, Green, Leon Wash and Revis. At the time it was bright with Rex calling the def. and having the best running combo in the league to compliment Sanchez that season. We did have a guy that can WIN games, he just can't throw, but he wins nontheless. He had to play more downs to do that.

Just to be clear, Sanchez never really won games, he managed them. And you're right, we did have a bright future for 1-2 fleetingly brief seasons, and then we all saw Sanchez's true colors. He's not our guy, and until we get our guy, we're not going to be competitive. That's just the truth in today's NFL.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 06:57 PM

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Darrelle Revis: John Idzik and Jets lied about trade plans
The ex-Jets cornerback says he never spoke with Woody Johnson about remaining with the Jets and added that John Idzik told him last week he'd remain a Jet. 'I know it's a lie,' he said of Idzik's remarks to him.


BY MANISH MEHTA / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

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Darrelle Revis says he feels for Jets coach Rex Ryan, who enters the 2013 season with a depleted roster following Revis’ trade to Tampa and the team’s decision to let key players leave via free agency.

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TAMPA – Darrelle Revis made it clear Monday that the Jets weren’t forthright for the better part of three months. After Revis’ introductory press conference with the Buccaneers, the Pro Bowl cornerback maintained that his former team lied to him. He said that Jets GM John Idzik told him as recently as last Wednesday that he was going to remain with the Jets. Less than a week later, Revis was traded to Tampa Bay.

"Definitely I feel like I haven’t gotten the truth,” Revis told three New York reporters on Monday. “Anybody can sit here and tell you to your face, ‘Yeah, you’re going to be a Jet.’ But what’s the truth out of it. What’s really true?”

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“You just want the truth of the situation,” he added. “You don’t people to be dangling information or giving false information. Just tell the truth.”

“Did you want to be a Jet?” Idzik asked Revis at the team facility last Wednesday, according to Revis.

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“Why would you ask me that question?” Revis answered.

Idzik’s response?

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“He gave me some other corporate answer about something else,” Revis said.


COREY SIPKIN/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

According to Darrelle Revis, John Idzik asked him last week if he wanted to remain with the Jets.

"I know it's a lie," Revis said of Idzik telling him last week that he'd remain a Jet.

RELATED: MYERS: WITH REVIS GONE, FUTURE CLOUDY FOR REX

Revis also revealed that he never spoke to owner Woody Johnson, who was never interested in paying Revis a top-dollar extension.

“No, Woody don’t want to talk to me,” Revis said. “Let’s just be real. He didn’t want to talk to me. He stayed as far away as he could.”

RELATED: REVIS: I HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE TO JETS

Revis felt all along that the Jets kept him in the dark.

“I call it the corporate answer,” Revis said. “They give you the corporate answer… The truth is the truth. Just tell the truth because people want to know what’s going on. I want to know what’s going on with my career whether you’re trading me or you’re not. But whatever you’re doing, just let me know. I just don’t get that part of it… of not telling me what you’re going to do with me when I come to ask questions.”

Revis disagreed with the idea that he was just out for money.

“I never said I’m looking for the most money,” Revis said. “Whatever I do out on that field, you should compensated for. That’s just not me. That’s any player in this league. I didn’t make this system up. I didn’t make this system of who’s supposed to get paid $25 million, $10 million… I put my body out there on the line and I play. I do it pretty well, so you should get compensated for what you want.”

As far as Rex Ryan goes, Revis feels his pain of having the roster gutted this offseason.

"As a friend, I feel for Rex," Revis said. "He played a big part in my career. I feel for him."



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Posted 22 April 2013 - 07:28 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 22 April 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:



Blah, blah, blah...they all say this kind of stuff. I don't hold a grudge against Revis for holding out...but don't complain about the business side of the game after you've held out multiple times.
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Posted 22 April 2013 - 09:27 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 22 April 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Blah, blah, blah...they all say this kind of stuff. I don't hold a grudge against Revis for holding out...but don't complain about the business side of the game after you've held out multiple times.



How is he complaining? He's just saying the Jets FO should have been honest with him. I mean if what Revis is saying is true, Woody started all this trade talk and then he doesn't talk to Revis about it? That's how Woody runs his business? He's thrown Tannanbaum under the bus, he tried to do it to Revis, and he's about to do it to Rex Ryan more than likely. After seeing the way Woody and his front office treats star players, who is going to want to play for him? If Woody treats star players like this no quality free agents are going to want to sign with the Jets.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:11 AM

Marcus Trufant can be Revis-Like as a CB. We get him in the second round with the 39th pick, we'll be fine. Trufant is the real deal.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 07:04 AM

View Postreg83ny, on 23 April 2013 - 07:11 AM, said:

Marcus Trufant can be Revis-Like as a CB. We get him in the second round with the 39th pick, we'll be fine. Trufant is the real deal.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:39 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 23 April 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:

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That's who I meant to say. But i'll take his brother Marcus if seattle is willing to send him to NY for a bag of rocks
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:04 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 22 April 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Just to be clear, Sanchez never really won games, he managed them. And you're right, we did have a bright future for 1-2 fleetingly brief seasons, and then we all saw Sanchez's true colors. He's not our guy, and until we get our guy, we're not going to be competitive. That's just the truth in today's NFL.


Really? Sanchez never won any games? Did you watch the post-season in 09 & 10?

2009 - Cincinnati game he was 12 of 15, 80% completions with a 139.4 QBR.
2010 - New England game he was 16 of 25, 64% completions with a 127.3 QBR.

After 2010, he had no targets to be able to throw to because the team had to give 16.25 Million to a CB even though he was still under contract and who turned down an offer of just about 100 million. Instead, that player is now no longer on the team but we still have issues.

Keller was Sanchez' leading receiver after Edwards was allowed to leave while we kept a primadonna named Holmes. Sanchez is now learning what? His FOURTH offensive system in 5 years? What QB would have a lot of success under those circumstances that's not named Manning? Sanchez was average during the regular season in 09 & 10 but then was definitely on his game in the post season. He then had no receivers and then last year was just a clusterfvck considering he had no chances to even get into a rhythm being pulled every 3rd play for some BS Teblow play.
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