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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'm excited to start researching potential draft prospects for us, I have no idea really who the top guys are this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) Look at all the first round top qb draft pick busts over the years. Even most of the analysts arent sure about any of the qbs this year
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I can not believe u could post such a thing about THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:17 PM) I'll be more excited if Idzik was fired. I'm interested to see who our next HC is too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:19 PM) Bill cowher and THE DUCK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT in the Giants rams game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT FIGHT TIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) FIGHT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) !!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Leaf , Russell, Harrington,Young, Carr....... All picked with the first 3 picks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:22 PM) Its all hit of miss
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:24 PM) Yeah and thats what Im saying. So you changed your tune now?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) No one believes any of the qbs coming out this year is NFL ready
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) Talk about all the recent QBs that were taken and have done well
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) not true, some believe in the QBs this year. Some don't.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) NO
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:26 PM) SUCK FOR THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:27 PM) I've seen tweets from NFL people that think Winston's skills are NFL ready. Has maturity issues though
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:27 PM) Yeah but most of those years there more qbs that were thought to be NFL ready. The last few years hasnt been that way
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) Its hard to go against Winston
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) I rather have a high pick regardless, even if you trade back, it's valuable.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) the guy has not lost a game in 2 years as a starter
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:28 PM) Trade with the redskins
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Maybe they will give us 3 1st round pikcs
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) picks
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Heck I think Maniel will be a huge bust. I actually hope he is because he was a major dickhead in college acting like he was the next Brady or Peyton Manning
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) I'm no QB expert, but I think Winston shows a lot of ability to be a franchise QB. Guy has amazing pocket presence for a college QB and when the game is on the line he always delivers. He is very talented as well.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:29 PM) Manziel
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:32 PM) I didnt see any of his so I cant say. I usually only watch Pac 12 games
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:35 PM) My problem with Mariota is that he has accuracy issues. Look at the las time we picked a qb with Accuracy issues didnt work out that well
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:37 PM) And I wasn't really impressed with Sanchez looking much better this year. His accuracy is finally NFL average but once again like pretty much every year he has more turnovers than tds
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:38 PM) 12 passing tds 1 rushing td 10interceptions and 7 fumbles 4 of them lost so he has 13 tds and 14 turnovers total
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:39 PM) No chance of him taking Foles job
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 PM) though he might have a shot getting a job on a team that needs a td with his improved accuracy. He was better in the Redzone this year. best of his career. No tunovers in the redzone. The first time in his career
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 PM) meant needs a qb
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:43 PM) I wish we could keep harvin but he is definitely gone. No way the team is going to pay him what he wants with so many needs. Hope they pay Richardson though
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:46 PM) We need to upgrade almost the whole Oline and Mangold is getting old so we need to start looking for a center soon. he is still damn good at blocking but he never pulls like he used to on running plays
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:48 PM) Especially with him having to deal with that big bastard Wilfork twice a year.
santana Icon : (Today, 05:52 PM) Keenum played better than any jet qb this year
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:25 PM) Rams coming back 17 unanswered points 27-20 Giants
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:39 PM) Ok im going to say it
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 06:40 PM) ODB is the 3rd best WR in the NFL already
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San Francisco 49Ers Could Look To Trade Up In Nfl Draft

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:40 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 23 April 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

difference is sanchez isn't top 5. peyton maning got babaied, tom brady got babaied, brees, got babaied, rodgers got babied,

Are you comparing a top notch QB to a CB? You do realize the problem With that right?
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:45 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 24 April 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

Are you comparing a top notch QB to a CB? You do realize the problem With that right?


did you stop reading at the snip? cause i go on to say

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and yes i know those are all QBs so also

Adrian Peterson, Larry fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Asomougha, Etc all got special attention


and i'd say a top CB is more important then a top WR or RB
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:47 PM

I would never think it is a good idea to give a player who plays less than half the snaps in a total game and only impacts his side of the field that large of a percentage of the total cap room. It would not matter how good he is. The Bucs were the only team willing to trade for him and sign him to that silly money and we still got the 13th pick for injured goods. That's pretty good in my book. What other team has successfully given a CB that kind of money and did well? Raiders? Nope... Eagles? Nope...... He is a CB. Probably the best in the league, but he is still a CB. Not the most important position on the team.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 April 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

did you stop reading at the snip? cause i go on to say



and i'd say a top CB is more important then a top WR or RB

But you did compare them. That's why I did that. Considering that the NFL is now protecting the QB and WRs so much I would disagree. HB I am with you.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:36 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 24 April 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

But you did compare them. That's why I did that. Considering that the NFL is now protecting the QB and WRs so much I would disagree. HB I am with you.


OK well Peterson blew his knee out and was due a contract. minnesota sheeled out huge money for him and made it known they wanted him there. we did teh opposite. Minn still has their star RB we have nothing
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:40 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 24 April 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

I would never think it is a good idea to give a player who plays less than half the snaps in a total game and only impacts his side of the field that large of a percentage of the total cap room. It would not matter how good he is. The Bucs were the only team willing to trade for him and sign him to that silly money and we still got the 13th pick for injured goods. That's pretty good in my book. What other team has successfully given a CB that kind of money and did well? Raiders? Nope... Eagles? Nope...... He is a CB. Probably the best in the league, but he is still a CB. Not the most important position on the team.


he made up for the lack of any decent safeties, he never needed safety help which allowed us an extra pass rusher every play. having revis on the field was like playing with 12 men. and he played every snap on defense os how is it less then half?

and the 13th pick most liekly will never be clsoe to what revis is. lets say we score an amazing pass rusher and he gets 12 sacks his rookie year, then i'll say it wasn't a terrible deal. But what if we draft the next vernon gholston? then we gave revis away for nothing. alot rides on what idzik does with that pick TBH.

remember when we traded keyshawn and bellichek and had 4 1st round picks? we landed some good pciks too, penny was amazing when healthy, ellis and abe were great DEs and becht was a good blocking TE. but we never made a SB with them. keyshawn won one and belly won 3

rarely do trades like this work out.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:59 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 April 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

OK well Peterson blew his knee out and was due a contract. minnesota sheeled out huge money for him and made it known they wanted him there. we did teh opposite. Minn still has their star RB we have nothing

We do have something to show for it. 2 picks. Tampa will have to release him in 2 years and have nothing. When Milliner (sp?) is drafted @ 13 or later and he turns into a solid CB the Bucs will look like fools and Idzick will look better. Spending 13+% on a non QB is just stupid. History shows it.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 03:06 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 April 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

he made up for the lack of any decent safeties, he never needed safety help which allowed us an extra pass rusher every play. having revis on the field was like playing with 12 men. and he played every snap on defense os how is it less then half?



Probably truth to the saftey comment... But the other hand is we could not afford to have a pass rusher due to his contract.

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and the 13th pick most liekly will never be clsoe to what revis is. lets say we score an amazing pass rusher and he gets 12 sacks his rookie year, then i'll say it wasn't a terrible deal. But what if we draft the next vernon gholston? then we gave revis away for nothing. alot rides on what idzik does with that pick TBH.


Thats your opinion and there is a valid concern. Keep in mind we had Revis for years and we did not win a SB either. Revis wanted to much money for a CB is what this comes down to. What if we had the cap space to sign Manning when he was a FA? Why tie so much money?
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 April 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

OK well Peterson blew his knee out and was due a contract. minnesota sheeled out huge money for him and made it known they wanted him there. we did teh opposite. Minn still has their star RB we have nothing


You are comparing a guy who touches the ball 30+ times a game to a CB. Normally I would agree I would rather have a corner over a HB, But I would take Peterson over Revis in a heartbeat. Also using MN as an example is not he best. Bad team management.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 03:59 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 April 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

OK well Peterson blew his knee out and was due a contract. minnesota sheeled out huge money for him and made it known they wanted him there. we did teh opposite. Minn still has their star RB we have nothing

Try doing just an iota of research, I'm pretty sure Peterson got payed way before blowing out his knee.

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