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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
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25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
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31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

Per ESPN: http://espn.go.com/n...-five-surgeries

Wonder if this is enough for him to fall to the jets at 9. I'd love to somehow get him at 9 and the best available OLB at 13 if possible.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:29 AM

Guy had 6 ints in 3 years at Alabama. As much as Alabama grabs leads and forces teams to abandon their gameplan and start throwing the ball, Miliner doesn't sound like a playmaker to me.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:39 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 24 April 2013 - 09:29 AM, said:

Guy had 6 ints in 3 years at Alabama. As much as Alabama grabs leads and forces teams to abandon their gameplan and start throwing the ball, Miliner doesn't sound like a playmaker to me.


Judging a CB on interceptions is ridiculous. Look at his passes defensed (20) and receiving yards allowed. Rhodes broke up (7) passes last season, Trufant (9), Banks (7).
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:45 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 24 April 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

Judging a CB on interceptions is ridiculous. Look at his passes defensed (20) and receiving yards allowed. Rhodes broke up (7) passes last season, Trufant (9), Banks (7).


I think that at #9, you're shooting for a play maker and for a CB, you judge that based on his ability to pick off passes. In the Top 10, you're trying to get a guy who's going to be a matchup nightmare for the next decade. i don't see Milliner in that mold. Good CB in a bad CB class. He's not half as good as Patrick Peterson and is projected to go in the same range. I think he and Tavon Austin are products of weak draft classes at their position.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:52 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 24 April 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

I think that at #9, you're shooting for a play maker and for a CB, you judge that based on his ability to pick off passes. In the Top 10, you're trying to get a guy who's going to be a matchup nightmare for the next decade. i don't see Milliner in that mold. Good CB in a bad CB class. He's not half as good as Patrick Peterson and is projected to go in the same range. I think he and Tavon Austin are products of weak draft classes at their position.


Won't necessarily argue that...I think they are being overvalued for sure.

However, I think Milliner is a great CB, even if he only knocks the pass down when it gets there. But don't be surprised if he turns into an interception machine, because INT stats can really come down to good or bad luck sometimes.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:57 AM

That is alot of injuries for a 21 year old. May be a sign. Buyer beware. If we draft him he will always be linked to Revis too. Rather have Jordon / Mingo and if he is there @ 13 we can take a look. If not then oh well.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:13 PM

we need pass rusher and help on offense more then a CB, we sitll have cro and wilson
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 April 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

we need pass rusher and help on offense more then a CB, we sitll have cro and wilson


Good point. I meant to write this before...but if you draft Dee Milliner it means the Jets basically traded Revis for a downgrade at CB and mid round pick next year.

The trade of Revis has to be a philosophical change...preferring to put resources in the pass rush over the coverage.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:44 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 24 April 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

Good point. I meant to write this before...but if you draft Dee Milliner it means the Jets basically traded Revis for a downgrade at CB and mid round pick next year.

The trade of Revis has to be a philosophical change...preferring to put resources in the pass rush over the coverage.


If we don't get a stud QB or stud Pass Rusher out of this trade, it was a bust
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:52 PM

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If we don't get a stud QB or stud Pass Rusher out of this trade, it was a bust


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:54 PM

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:09 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 24 April 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

If we don't get a stud QB or stud Pass Rusher out of this trade, it was a bust


Well if we dont land any pro bowler / Elite player for the revis pick the trade is a bust considering we just traded a hall of fame potential player for 1 lousy first rounder. More than likely, whoever we take, we got the worst end of the deal in terms of career vs career comparrisons.

And even if we do land a great player, the trade will still be a bust in 5 years if the jets either trade him or let him walk...

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:12 AM

View Postextmenace, on 25 April 2013 - 08:09 AM, said:

Well if we dont land any pro bowler / Elite player for the revis pick the trade is a bust considering we just traded a hall of fame potential player for 1 lousy first rounder. More than likely, whoever we take, we got the worst end of the deal in terms of career vs career comparrisons.

And even if we do land a great player, the trade will still be a bust in 5 years if the jets either trade him or let him walk...


That's the true Jets spirit...it's over before it begins.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:40 AM

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That's the true Jets spirit...it's over before it begins.

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