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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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2013 Draft Man Crush

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 05:16 PM

Alright...enough bitching about Revis...the draft is soon!!!

Every year I pick out a prospect or two that just give me boners all over the place. These are usually guys who will go in the middle rounds and tend to be less athletic guys who are just good football players. Guys that I think will be really good players for a long time. They probably won't be stars, but the guys that championship teams need.

Past man crushes have included Browns DE Jabaal Sheard, Ravens RB Bernard Pierce, I don't even know what team he's on anymore WR Jordan Shipley, Bucs MLB Mason Foster, Ravens DE Arthur Jones, Eagles WR DeSean Jackson, Bears RB Matt Forte, Ravens RB Ray Rice, and Jags RB Maurice Jones-Drew.

More or less a pretty successful list...of course I probably have selective memory about the prospects I liked that didn't turn out so hot...but let's not talk about that now. This year I've got a few players that get me all hot and bothered...here they are:

Syracuse S Sharmako Thomas (Rounds 2-3) - I love this little guy, and not just because he has the greatest name ever. He's a baller, and a few inches short of being the most physically impressible safety prospect in years. If he had those inches, he's probably a mid first rounder.
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Keenan Allen WR Cal (1-2) - The only thing Allen lacks a WR prospect is elite straight line speed. He is a great route runner with a big, tall frame and excellent hands, and is surprisingly good after the catch given his lack of long speed. Some issues with recovery from a knee injury seem to be pushing his stock down, if he's still on the board at the Jets 2nd round pick and they haven't drafted a WR already I think he'd be a GREAT pick.
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Datone Jones DE UCLA (1-2) - Probably not a good fit for the Jets right now, but I love this guy's game anyway. If you watch UCLA games he is always affecting the play, in so many different ways. He may never get huge accolades in the NFL, but he will help his team win lots of games.
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Chase Thomas OLB Stanford (3-5) - I see Chase as a Bryan Thomas type player; fundamentally sound, sets the edge well, and provides a little pass rush as well. Played in the 3-4 in college on the exceptionally well coached Stanford teams.
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Nickell Robey CB USC (3-4) - He's only 5'-7", but every time I watched a USC game he was so clearly dominant I don't understand why he isn't getting more press. He may never be more than a nickel, but in today's NFL that is still a very important position. BIG FAN of this guy.
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The Tight End Depth - This isn't a particular player, but the Jets should definitely look to grab a TE in the middle-late rounds with guys like Levine Toilolo, Gavin Escobar, Joseph Fauria, etc all capable of being contributors at the next level.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

We always like so many of the same players.

A few I like: Markus Wheaton, Kevin Minter, Joseph Randle, Sharrif Floyd, Jordan Poyer and Bacarri Rambo.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:25 PM

What's your call on the first two picks if the Jets can't find a way to trade down HJ?
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:36 PM

I was hoping Rambo was on your list... THATS the greatest name ever.

Whats everyone's opinion of Kenny Stills?
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 06:48 AM

View PostChaos, on 23 April 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

What's your call on the first two picks if the Jets can't find a way to trade down HJ?


If the draft fell something like this for the Jets I'd pee my pants.

1a - Ideally, I'd like the Jets to trade back with this or the 13th pick...but...I guess I'll go with whichever OLB pass rusher falls here. I'm honestly not a big fan of any of MIngo, Jordan, Ansah, Jones...1 or 2 of them will probably succeed....but I have no idea which one.

1b - OG Jonathon Cooper (I know jetsman05 will be upset with me, but it's mighty tempting to take one of these elite Guards at 13)

2 - WR Keenan Allen (If Allen isn't available, I wouldn't want the Jets drafting a WR here because I don't think any others are worth the pick. Perhaps go with a TE like Zach Ertz)

3 - S Sharmako Thomas (There will probably be a couple of safeties you could take here, Thomas is obviously just my personal favorite)

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I was hoping Rambo was on your list... THATS the greatest name ever.

Whats everyone's opinion of Kenny Stills?


Touche...that is a pretty sweet name. I actually don't know much about Rambo. Tee this up to 05...and while we're at it, what do you think of Cornelius Washington? I didn't see much of Georgia this year so I don't know these guys, but I keep reading how people think Washington could be a much better pro than he was college player. He did kill the combine...

Stills doesn't have great size, or speed...and in Oklahoma's spread offense it's easy for a crafty guy like him to be successful. I think he'd have a tougher time in the pro's. If he's available in the 5th round...great pick...but not any earlier.

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A few I like: Markus Wheaton, Kevin Minter, Joseph Randle, Sharrif Floyd, Jordan Poyer and Bacarri Rambo.


I've seen so much varied opinion on Wheaton, what round do you think he's going?

Yeah I think Minter is going to be good in a 3-4...good mid round pick.

You're gonna have to enlighten me on Randle.

Love Sharrif Floyd, but do you think he's more of a 4-3 DT?

Like Poyer, there are a couple good CBs that should be available around the 4th like Robert Alford, Logan Ryan, Blidi Wreh-Wilson, and my Hurricane hope Brandon McGee.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:12 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 24 April 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Touche...that is a pretty sweet name. I actually don't know much about Rambo. Tee this up to 05...and while we're at it, what do you think of Cornelius Washington? I didn't see much of Georgia this year so I don't know these guys, but I keep reading how people think Washington could be a much better pro than he was college player. He did kill the combine...



I saw that as well. On draft insider Tony Pauline says that Georgia coaches are telling NFL teams good things about Washington, that they used him wrong in college because they had Jarvis Jones at OLB.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:17 AM

You know what? I think I'm going to go with Margus Hunt falling to us in the 2nd as my crush.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:34 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 24 April 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

You know what? I think I'm going to go with Margus Hunt falling to us in the 2nd as my crush.


Dude, Mike Mamula much? He's big, he's strong, he's athletic. He might be the biggest boom or bust pick in this draft.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:39 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 24 April 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Dude, Mike Mamula much? He's big, he's strong, he's athletic. He might be the biggest boom or bust pick in this draft.


That's why I want him in the 2nd, not the 1st. If he slips, cool. We grab him and develop him.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:56 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 24 April 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

That's why I want him in the 2nd, not the 1st. If he slips, cool. We grab him and develop him.


I guess I just think the Jets aren't in the position to be taking boom or bust picks right now. They need to hit with at least above average starters in the first 3 rounds in my mind. Once they've built a solid foundation they can take fliers on the Margus Hunts of the world.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:03 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 24 April 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

I guess I just think the Jets aren't in the position to be taking boom or bust picks right now. They need to hit with at least above average starters in the first 3 rounds in my mind. Once they've built a solid foundation they can take fliers on the Margus Hunts of the world.


I don't see him as any more of a risk than Ansah or Mingo and considering that those guys will be Top 10, grabbing Hunt int he 2nd is good value.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:09 AM

I should also add I really like Robert Woods from USC. I like him in the 2nd round as a complimentary receiver, but now I'm starting to read he might go in the 1st. This is going to sound ridiculous...but he reminds me of Jerry Rice. Now I in no way mean to imply I think he will be anywhere near as good as Jerry Rice. But his style and body build are similar.

Woods has good height at 6'-0" but isn't overly bulky at 200 lbs. He didn't test particularly well in any drill at the combine, but that isn't his strength. He runs fantastic routes to any point on the field, has good hands, can create after the catch, and does all the little things to be successful.

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PS - That's Robert Woods that Sharmako Thomas is picking a pass off in front of in that photo above.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:13 AM

I'm going to catch so much shit for saying this... but... I'd like Matt Barkley in the 3rd. To me, he's the anti-Sanchez. He's a 4 year starter. He's poised. He's had ups and downs already. The talent is there. This year's USC team had no OL so he took a beating. I think he has marginal 1st round talent and can be our answer at QB.

I know, I know... USC QBS SUCK! LETS NEVER DRAFT A USC QB AGAIN!!!!!!
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:51 PM

Rambo is a player. Just seems to be around the ball every play. I think he actually fits what Rex likes to do with a safety to a tee. Able to hit, play in the box, all around the field.

As for Washington... I never noticed him at Georgia honestly, so I can't really form much of an opinion.

God I hope we don't take a guard in the first round...
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:36 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 24 April 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

God I hope we don't take a guard in the first round...


Yeah its not my choice either.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 04:21 PM

I am not a huge college guy but after watching NFLN I am a fan of Shawn Williams out of Georgia.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 04:58 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 24 April 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

I am not a huge college guy but after watching NFLN I am a fan of Shawn Williams out of Georgia.

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Yeah, again, I'm a little rusty on ma Bulldogs...but the worry with Williams is his ability to stick with NFL receivers. He has great size and straight line speed, but the lateral agility and quickness is lacking.

But he could be the type Rex likes...an enforcer.
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