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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 11:21 PM

Well now since we have bid farewell to Revis and are working with 2 1st Round picks.I read plenty of mock drafts over the last few months, and I thought it would be fun to see what we the fans think would be good choices for us early on. Have fun with it here are my choices

9. Barkeivous Mingo- most talked about guy at our spot, when he bulks up some would help our pass rush immensely.

13. Tavon Austin: let's face it fellas, our biggest problem last season was we had no playmakers on offense. While on the small side, he has the potential to be a matchup nightmare because we can line him up at several different positions and his speed is off the charts

39. Zach Ertz- yet another playmaker to help Sanchez who needs all the help he can get at this point. Big solid guy with reliable hands, should be a great red-zone target.

In later rounds we can focus on fixing the other holes like the o-line and getting safety help. I really think we need to focus this draft on fixing our offense because they reeked last year, our D will be fine even without Revis.
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 11:43 PM

Draft is such a crapshoot.. I'll just go with the guy with the interesting name Barkeivous Mingo

Also with sanchez leading the way the jets only hope will be through the defense. Investing more talent into the offense can only get the jets so far before sanchez throws another ridiculous INT.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:15 AM

I hate all your picks.

Mingo scares me... the production isn't there in LSU. Maybe Rex can turn him into something, but at #9, you want to be as close to a sure thing as possible. On top of that, there's some questions about his size... buy honestly reminds me of Maybin a little too much.

Tavon Austin is good, but I think that he's a beneficiary of a very weak WR class. He's a good early 2nd round pick that's going to get drafted 20 spots too soon because there isn't a complete WR in this draft. To me, he's a slot WR. He's not as big as Desean Jackson and to me, it's scary to invest an early pick into a guy who may not get open against taller CBs. Rememeber, this kid is 5'8" in shoes and although he's fast, he's not a record setting trackstar that can sprint away from guys. If he's got 2 steps on a 6 foot CB, he's still covered because he's so damn little. Not knocking him or his production, I just think that in the top half of the 1st round, you go with a prototypical WR or you don't go with a WR at all.

Ertz to me is a guy that does everything okay and nothing great. He's had too many drops to be considered having great hands. He's not a great blocker and he's not fast. What does he bring to the table? He'll be a solid pro, but again, at #39, you want someone that's polished in at least one area. He won't provide good pass protection, he won't be that safety blanket that will make difficult catches look routine and he won't elude NFL DBs or safeties after the catch. Again, too high a pick for what he is.

My draft:

9. Dion Jordan or trade down.
13. Star Louteli
13b. Either one of the elite Gs (Warmack or Cooper)
39. If we draft Jordan and Star, this pick has to be OL. If not, go BPA (which may be a S or one of the OLBs that are sure to drop (I think that Jarvis Jones might actually fall here because his draft stock is taking a beating, Bjoern Werner or Margus Hunt perhaps)
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:28 AM

I would be happy with those picks. Mingo is a risk, but if Rex and co believes in him as a pass rusher I would defer to them. He has a lot of talent though.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:25 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 24 April 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

Tavon Austin is good, but I think that he's a beneficiary of a very weak WR class. He's a good early 2nd round pick that's going to get drafted 20 spots too soon because there isn't a complete WR in this draft. To me, he's a slot WR. He's not as big as Desean Jackson and to me, it's scary to invest an early pick into a guy who may not get open against taller CBs. Rememeber, this kid is 5'8" in shoes and although he's fast, he's not a record setting trackstar that can sprint away from guys. If he's got 2 steps on a 6 foot CB, he's still covered because he's so damn little. Not knocking him or his production, I just think that in the top half of the 1st round, you go with a prototypical WR or you don't go with a WR at all.


Excellent points! Tavon Austin will be the biggest reach in this draft. Many analysts compare him to Percy Harvin, but Harvin is bigger and taller than Austin, and just as fast. And even then Harvin was taken at #22 in the draft. Spending a top 15 pick on Austin is doing the team a disservice. You just don't spend a top 15 pick on a slot receiver unless you are a team with very few holes and can take the chance on a playmaker.

If I had my choice, I would take the #9 and trade it for a 2nd this year and a 1st next year (more, if possible) and then take one of the two guards (Warmack, Cooper) with the 13th. If neither are there at 13, take BPA (we need help everywhere). Even better would be if we can trade the #9 back to #16/17 and pick up a 2nd that way, and then still trade the #16/17 for another second this year next year's first, but I doubt this will happen.

This draft class has very few studs at the top. Sign some veteran free agents on one-year deals as a stop gap for next year's draft.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:45 AM

View PostRUJebus, on 24 April 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

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Excellent points! Tavon Austin will be the biggest reach in this draft. Many analysts compare him to Percy Harvin, but Harvin is bigger and taller than Austin, and just as fast. And even then Harvin was taken at #22 in the draft. Spending a top 15 pick on Austin is doing the team a disservice. You just don't spend a top 15 pick on a slot receiver unless you are a team with very few holes and can take the chance on a playmaker.

If I had my choice, I would take the #9 and trade it for a 2nd this year and a 1st next year (more, if possible) and then take one of the two guards (Warmack, Cooper) with the 13th. If neither are there at 13, take BPA (we need help everywhere). Even better would be if we can trade the #9 back to #16/17 and pick up a 2nd that way, and then still trade the #16/17 for another second this year next year's first, but I doubt this will happen.

This draft class has very few studs at the top. Sign some veteran free agents on one-year deals as a stop gap for next year's draft.



As that's the case, surely if there is going to be trade action, then teams aren't going to give up small fortunes in order to move up just a few spots? I can see the merits of trading now, but I can't see the front office picking up a first next year or a bounty of picks given how this year's class grades out.
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