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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Jets Select Dee Milliner With #9

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:32 PM

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NFL Draft 2013: Jets select Alabama DB Dee Milliner

Dee Milliner said on Wednesday that he could be the guy to replace Darrelle Revis.

Now he has to prove it.

The Jets selected the Alabama DB with the No. 9 overall pick in the draft. Despite some lingering medical concerns, which could keep him out for roughly another month, Milliner was confident that he'd be ready to go by the start of training camp.

Milliner played his senior year with a torn labrum and had surgery following the season, his fifth career surgery. The other surgeries: right knee scope, sports hernia, right tibia stress fracture and another shoulder surgery.

The 5-11, 200-pound cornerback rose from the ranks of Nickel corner to starter once Dre Kirkpatrick went to the Bengals in the 2012 Draft. Injury concerns aside, he provides the Jets with an athletic, physical presence at the position alongside Antonio Cromartie and Kyle Wilson.

In total, he started 30 of 39 games for the Crimson Tide, finishing with 136 tackles and six interceptions.

At the combine he ran a 4.37 40-yard dash.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:44 PM

Smart. Solid. Good.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:21 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 25 April 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

Smart. Solid. Good. dumb. retarded. bad.


fixed
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:10 PM

Everyone who wanted Revis gone, I hope from the bottom of my heart that you all enjoy Dee Milliner and Sheldon Richardson. I really hope this turns out to be worth it because I'm not happy with the way the draft is going at all.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:12 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 26 April 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Everyone who wanted Revis gone, I hope from the bottom of my heart that you all enjoy Dee Milliner and Sheldon Richardson. I really hope this turns out to be worth it because I'm not happy with the way the draft is going at all.


Revis is not here not because we thought we could replace him. Woody Johnson had 16 million reasons to trade Revis.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 26 April 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Revis is not here not because we thought we could replace him. Woody Johnson had 16 million reasons to trade Revis.


Explanations aside I couldn't care less. Just hope you all are stoked about the draft class. Someone has to be.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 26 April 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Everyone who wanted Revis gone, I hope from the bottom of my heart that you all enjoy Dee Milliner and Sheldon Richardson. I really hope this turns out to be worth it because I'm not happy with the way the draft is going at all.


Charlie Casserly made a good point tonight, its not just the draft picks the Jets should be judged on. Its also the $56 mil in cap space over the next 4 yeras the Jets freed up by not paying him that contract and paying these rookies little.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:13 AM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 26 April 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

Explanations aside I couldn't care less. Just hope you all are stoked about the draft class. Someone has to be.


I'll be that person. I'm pretty happy with the first day of the draft.

View PostJetsfan0099, on 26 April 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

Charlie Casserly made a good point tonight, its not just the draft picks the Jets should be judged on. Its also the $56 mil in cap space over the next 4 yeras the Jets freed up by not paying him that contract and paying these rookies little.


Bingo.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:38 AM

Obviously we would've preferred to get some pass rush rather than a CB that's already had 5 surgeries, but people REALLY need to get over Revis not being here anymore. Let's focus ont he team that we do have rather than players that didn't want to be here.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:52 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 25 April 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Charlie Casserly made a good point tonight, its not just the draft picks the Jets should be judged on. Its also the $56 mil in cap space over the next 4 yeras the Jets freed up by not paying him that contract and paying these rookies little.


ok we got cap room. good, what do we do with cap room? oh yeah it means we'll have to overpay for a good free agent player everyone is bidding on and wind up paying someone like bart scott 10 mil a year to be average.

Also overtype he lets up a catch were gonna hear he sucks and revis wouldn't have let that happen
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 26 April 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

ok we got cap room. good, what do we do with cap room? oh yeah it means we'll have to overpay for a good free agent player everyone is bidding on and wind up paying someone like bart scott 10 mil a year to be average.

Also overtype he lets up a catch were gonna hear he sucks and revis wouldn't have let that happen


Dude, your hatred is just becoming blind and irrational.

You can't judge Idzik yet, it's literally impossible. You can disagree with some of the moves, but you have to let them play out before you can go ape shit over him.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:25 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 26 April 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

ok we got cap room. good, what do we do with cap room? oh yeah it means we'll have to overpay for a good free agent player everyone is bidding on and wind up paying someone like bart scott 10 mil a year to be average.

Also overtype he lets up a catch were gonna hear he sucks and revis wouldn't have let that happen



I'd rather pay 10 million for someone bound to be average than 16 million to get the same result. Let's see how the ex-Jet plays this season before flipping out claiming there's no way we should've let him walk. Can we at least see that first?

The cap room allows us to fill MULTIPLE holes rather than investing 13% of our total cap space on one player that's NOT going to affect our ability to win a Superbowl or not.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:35 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 26 April 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

Dude, your hatred is just becoming blind and irrational.

You can't judge Idzik yet, it's literally impossible. You can disagree with some of the moves, but you have to let them play out before you can go ape shit over him.


But i can judge him. You see we let revis go to save money and to get a draft pick to fill needs. things like o-line, QB, WR, OLB, Safety. Instead he drafts a CB and a Dlineman.

that means our last 5 first round picks were 3 d-lineman and 2 CBs. WTF gives. still haven't gotten a OLB.

So we downgraded at CB, cause even if milner is awesome he will never be as good as revis. SO we save a bunch of money. what are we gonna do with that money? use it on free agents. players we will have to overpay for average players
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:09 PM

Who is Milner?

Plays for Manchester City, no?
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 26 April 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Who is Milner?

Plays for Manchester City, no?

He plays for the same team as barrnet
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 26 April 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

ok we got cap room. good, what do we do with cap room? oh yeah it means we'll have to overpay for a good free agent player everyone is bidding on and wind up paying someone like bart scott 10 mil a year to be average.

Also overtype he lets up a catch were gonna hear he sucks and revis wouldn't have let that happen


It means we resign our own instead of them going to Miami like Keller. Hopefully we can draft well and have a need to resign players. We are always going to loose some players due to contracts or whatever but lets at least try to have some cap room to make moves instead of always restructuring, releasing or being right at the cap. Imagine if we had the cap room to make a real run @ Manning last year.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 26 April 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

It means we resign our own instead of them going to Miami like Keller. Hopefully we can draft well and have a need to resign players. We are always going to loose some players due to contracts or whatever but lets at least try to have some cap room to make moves instead of always restructuring, releasing or being right at the cap. Imagine if we had the cap room to make a real run @ Manning last year.


who do we need to resign? he didn't resign anyone. he let slauson and keller move on to cheap 1 year deals.
he let pohua walk, greene walk, we have nobody who we need to keep on our roster. name 1 person that we should not let walk at this ponit?
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:57 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 26 April 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

who do we need to resign? he didn't resign anyone. he let slauson and keller move on to cheap 1 year deals.
he let pohua walk, greene walk, we have nobody who we need to keep on our roster. name 1 person that we should not let walk at this ponit?

You are thinking short term not long term.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:14 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 26 April 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

You are thinking short term not long term.


slauson and keller could both be here in their prome for the next 5 years. taht is long term. i'll give you pohua cause he's getting old but keller and slauson are both young, above average starters who dind't break the bank to sign elsehwere
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:30 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 26 April 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

slauson and keller could both be here in their prome for the next 5 years. taht is long term. i'll give you pohua cause he's getting old but keller and slauson are both young, above average starters who dind't break the bank to sign elsehwere

We get it, you don't like Idzik, can we move on now? Or better yet, is there ANY possibility whatsoever that you're wrong about everything? You talk like a GM but spell like a window licker, it's begining to make me sincerely doubt that your posts have any relevance at all.
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