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S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:18 AM) what up home dawgs?
S-Dubb Icon : (29 January 2016 - 10:22 AM) long time no chat, Ya boy has returned from the depths. Good to see everyone alive and well. Another season down the drain... what else is new? Fitz coming back next yr means we wont be going to the superbowl. We seriously need to land a QB. I hope Petty is the future and Im still quietly waiting for Geno to show up. IF they retain him it would speak volumes
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 January 2016 - 11:23 AM) I'm done with Geno. Never really expected much from him from the beginning. So I'm also looking for Petty to be the future.
vjdbbq Icon : (29 January 2016 - 04:33 PM) GENO SUCKS MONKEY DICK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:16 PM) S-Dubb??.Who's that guy?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 January 2016 - 07:17 PM) FIRE S-DUBB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Dubb and Amen? Did I take a wrong turn and land back in 2007?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 09:10 AM) Haha good to see both of you
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:28 PM) I don't care if Cro comes back, I think Marcus Williams can start opposite Revis. Hes a ball hawk and has performed well everytime hes called on.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) I want Fitz back as starter, he lacks arm talent but he is scrappy
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:41 PM) The team loves him as a leader and he is a good bridge QB as we groom a QB of the future.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He also has top notch pocket awareness.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 January 2016 - 03:42 PM) He allows our playmakers to make plays. After years of terrible QB play, I'll take 31 TD 15 INTs almost 4,000 yards
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 February 2016 - 12:41 AM) I can't stop thinking about the off season...... what the hell are we gonna do!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Maccagnan is going to have to show his worth
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) They can't have Wilkerson on that franchise tag, they have to sign him long term with a small cap hit or trade him. Otherwise we are in trouble with other FAs.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:00 AM) We need Harrison back, you can't run a effective 3-4 without a stud NT.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 10:01 AM) I hope we get Harrison back on a 4 yr contract.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:55 PM) I really think we are going to have to tag and trade Wilkerson
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) If we keep wilk we lose Harrison or Fitzpatrick maybe both
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 February 2016 - 12:56 PM) And ivory
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:23 PM) We can't keep Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams. A move has to be made
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) If the Jets want to go cheaper, they can try to trade Wilkerson and have Richardson/Williams for cheap
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Kaepernick apparently wants out of SF and wants to join the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 09:59 AM) Guess he sees the Jets as a team with a great WR tandem and a quality OC who builds a offense around the players
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) No thanks
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:29 AM) Unless he's dirt cheap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 04:18 PM) Marshall said no to Kaepnerick, he wants FItzpatrick as his QB
vjdbbq Icon : (04 February 2016 - 12:07 PM) Where's Rob ? I need some ass shots !!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 04:16 PM) its crazy how dead this site is
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 04:16 PM) its super bowl Sunday!!
vjdbbq Icon : (Yesterday, 04:47 PM) Everybody is at Rob's house ; checking out the asses !!!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (Yesterday, 05:17 PM) Hope Cotchery gets a ring tonight
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 07:04 PM) Yeah I would rather see a panther win
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 07:25 PM) Zzzz
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:03 PM) I want to see Manning go out on top
vjdbbq Icon : (Yesterday, 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (Yesterday, 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:42 AM) Denver has two future HOF edge rushers with Miller and Ware.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:32 AM

The former Colts GM Bill Pollian was on and he loved the picks. He said Richardson has a unique talant of a big guy who can rush the passer. He also said it is not often you get a guy who can line up inside and create pressure. He spoke highly about this guy and made me feel alot better about it. He loved this pick

Also loved the Millner pick. He went on to say not only did we get on of the top prospects from this draft but it also fills a need.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:09 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 26 April 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

The former Colts GM Bill Pollian was on and he loved the picks. He said Richardson has a unique talant of a big guy who can rush the passer. He also said it is not often you get a guy who can line up inside and create pressure. He spoke highly about this guy and made me feel alot better about it. He loved this pick

Also loved the Millner pick. He went on to say not only did we get on of the top prospects from this draft but it also fills a need.


Feels a need that didn't have to be a need.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:21 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 April 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

Feels a need that didn't have to be a need.


Let it go already. The need was created by your boy's greed so rather than blaming Rex, Idzik or Woody, blame your boy.

The more I read about this Richardson kid, the more I like the pick. Cople slides outside and this kid goes and creates pressure inside. One of the two of them or Wilk should reach the QB or cause some disruptions. If that happens, it definitely negates the need for a primadonna CB.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:38 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 April 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

Feels a need that didn't have to be a need.

There are 16 million reasons why it was a need. That is 4 starters.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:38 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 26 April 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

Let it go already. The need was created by your boy's greed so rather than blaming Rex, Idzik or Woody, blame your boy.

The more I read about this Richardson kid, the more I like the pick. Cople slides outside and this kid goes and creates pressure inside. One of the two of them or Wilk should reach the QB or cause some disruptions. If that happens, it definitely negates the need for a primadonna CB.


its greedy to want to get paid what you deserve?
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 26 April 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

Let it go already. The need was created by your boy's greed so rather than blaming Rex, Idzik or Woody, blame your boy.

The more I read about this Richardson kid, the more I like the pick. Cople slides outside and this kid goes and creates pressure inside. One of the two of them or Wilk should reach the QB or cause some disruptions. If that happens, it definitely negates the need for a primadonna CB.


View Postazjetfan, on 26 April 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

There are 16 million reasons why it was a need. That is 4 starters.


But I thought the pass defense was still great without what's his name last season? I thought we had Cromartie and Wilson (a CB drafted in the first round just 3 years ago). When is Wilson going to start playing like a CB that deserved to be drafted in the first round?

The Jets trade away the best CB in the league on Sunday and draft a CB on Thursday with their first pick, and I guess nobody is suppose to notice that or mention that. You guys who wanted the greedy bastard gone won. :trink39: But I'll be laughing at you if you put Milliner on your "Duds" list at any point in the next 5 years. I will laugh if I see any of you bitching about his play (and his future contracts) in the future.

I like Milliner from the little I've seen of him so far. I hope he pans out....he better.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

I don't think Revis was greedy, and he is (was) the best CB in the NFL.

But that still doesn't mean it makes financial sense for a team to pay him 16 million a season. That's franchise QB money, and even then it hamstrings a team's ability to field a complete team.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 April 2013 - 12:14 PM, said:

But I thought the pass defense was still great without what's his name last season? I thought we had Cromartie and Wilson (a CB drafted in the first round just 3 years ago). When is Wilson going to start playing like a CB that deserved to be drafted in the first round?

The Jets trade away the best CB in the league on Sunday and draft a CB on Thursday with their first pick, and I guess nobody is suppose to notice that or mention that. You guys who wanted the greedy bastard gone won. :trink39:/> But I'll be laughing at you if you put Millner on your "Duds" list at any point in the next 5 years. I will laugh if I see any of you bitching about his play (and his future contracts) in the future.

I like Millner from the little I've seen of him so far. I hope he pans out....he better.


To be clear I would have rather of kept Revis, However not @ $16 million. It is just to much money to put into one CB no matter how good he is. I dont blame Revis nor have any hate towards him. I will actually probably watch a Bucs game not to see him.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:26 PM

Its not just about the player, its about the money saved. The Jets now have $56 extra mil in cap space over the next 4 years. That is also how you judge this trade, do the Jets use that money to make a better football team?

You can't fault the Jets for playing their board. All of the draft guys seem to think the Jets did good, I haven't watched much of Milliner or Richardson since I didn't think that is where we were going but people seem to be real high on both. Our DL actually looks really good right now.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

If (maybe I should say when) Mark Sanchez throws 16 interceptions this season, that's a million dollars for every INT.

It is what it is, it's over. But considering we don't really know how hands on Idzik was in Seattle when it came to evaluating talent (it's been said he probably was more of a salary cap focused guy), I don't have much faith that the money they're saving from not paying "you know who" will do any good if Idzik isn't a good talent evaluator. How many quality FAs in the prime of their careers hit the market BTW?

I guess we'll see. Hope for the best I guess is all we can do at this point.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:41 PM

If everyone is still so upset about losing Revis...think of it this way:

By the time the Jets are contenders again, Revis will either be ineffective or off the team anyway.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:46 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 26 April 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

If (maybe I should say when) Mark Sanchez throws 16 interceptions this season, that's a million dollars for every INT.

It is what it is, it's over. But considering we don't really know how hands on Idzik was in Seattle when it came to evaluating talent (it's been said he probably was more of a salary cap focused guy), I don't have much faith that the money they're saving from not paying "you know who" will do any good if Idzik isn't a good talent evaluator. How many quality FAs in the prime of their careers hit the market BTW?

I guess we'll see. Hope for the best I guess is all we can do at this point.


Bringing Sanchez into the trade conversation is pointless. Idzik had nothing to do with that and cant really do much with it. For now I am not going to get myself all worked up over what I cant control. Time will tell if Idzik is good or not. I am not happy Revis is gone but I can see why and with the information we know I agree. I think the draft has been not what we all expected but we have 2 good players to show for it.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:03 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 26 April 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Bringing Sanchez into the trade conversation is pointless. Idzik had nothing to do with that and cant really do much with it. For now I am not going to get myself all worked up over what I cant control. Time will tell if Idzik is good or not. I am not happy Revis is gone but I can see why and with the information we know I agree. I think the draft has been not what we all expected but we have 2 good players to show for it.



As I've said before the buck stops with Woody Johnson. Honestly I don't put the blame for the Sanchez extension on Tannenbaum. At least not all of the blame on him. Woody is the one that has hired all these people.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:35 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 26 April 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

its greedy to want to get paid what you deserve?

I don't like losing the franchise's best ever draft pick and the most talented jet ever but think about it this way; by the time the jets will be competitive again (assuming we draft well from now on), Revis would be 30 years old. We would have paid him 50 million for 3 years of 4-8 win seasons. Those resources are better off being used to do what the jets have never been able to do which is tear it all down and begin again from scratch. We have spent too many years paying big money to FA's whose best days were behind them; all the while drafting like shit for the most part.
Until such time that Idzik shows he isn't up to the task of rebuilding the team, I will support him and his decisions. Last night on this board people were hating on the guy for the picks we made. Who knows, these 2 guys could both be pro bowl caliber players for years to come.
I definitely am hating how we went from a very solid team in 2009 to the embarrasment we were in 2012.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:52 PM

View Postjetfan4life12, on 26 April 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

I don't like losing the franchise's best ever draft pick and the most talented jet ever but think about it this way; by the time the jets will be competitive again (assuming we draft well from now on), Revis would be 30 years old. We would have paid him 50 million for 3 years of 4-8 win seasons. Those resources are better off being used to do what the jets have never been able to do which is tear it all down and begin again from scratch. We have spent too many years paying big money to FA's whose best days were behind them; all the while drafting like shit for the most part.
Until such time that Idzik shows he isn't up to the task of rebuilding the team, I will support him and his decisions. Last night on this board people were hating on the guy for the picks we made. Who knows, these 2 guys could both be pro bowl caliber players for years to come.
I definitely am hating how we went from a very solid team in 2009 to the embarrassment we were in 2012.


2009 and 20101 we made the AFC champ game... tehn 2011 we slid back and 2012 can be sumed up in 1 word "buttfumble"

Idzik hans't proved or done anyhting in his career and his start of the jets was trading away our best player , drafting one that played teh same position, letting solid starters who are young walk away to 1 year deals, and not addressing our major needs.

He has struck out every chance he has gotten.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:57 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 26 April 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

2009 and 20101 we made the AFC champ game... tehn 2011 we slid back and 2012 can be sumed up in 1 word "buttfumble"

Idzik hans't proved or done anyhting in his career and his start of the jets was trading away our best player , drafting one that played teh same position, letting solid starters who are young walk away to 1 year deals, and not addressing our major needs.

He has struck out every chance he has gotten.


Dude...relax. You're not this type of fan. You've been on this board for years and never been a knee-jerk reactionary, why now? Idzik's career is only a few months old, how can we really pass judgement?

The decision to trade Revis was Woody's, not Idzik's. Chronology tells us this.

All told, he was able to get the 13th overall pick with absolutely ZERO leverage. That's actually pretty impressive.
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