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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Idzik's First Draft Is Done. My Grade

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:06 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

how do you know that report wasn't a smokescreen so we don't get jumped.

reminds me of what happened with the giants. they wanted spiller or mclain and lost both by getting jumped, they took JPP and it worked out dam well for them. at the time though it was a bad pick. but then again they wanted revis and we jumped them and took revis and that didn't work out well for them at all

what i'm saying isn't that it won't work out, just that i don't like it and don't think he did a good job. by the time we can accurately judge (3 years) idzik will have already ruined the franhcise



How do you know they wanted Spiller or Mcclain? Were you in their war room? The Jets top 4 ranked players were Tavon Austin, Chance Warmack, Dee Milliner, and Sheldon Richardson. So why would they want Barkevious Mingo? Mingo was never their guy. Tavon Austin was if he fell.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:18 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

I see a bunch of people with their green colored glasses on. i was one of them too. thinking sparano could help and that tebow would replace rbad smith and that we just a player or 2 away from returning to the AFC champ game last year, etc etc. That sanchez will grow to be the franchise QB. But i'm done being positive, i'm gonna be realistic with the crap team that i love so much. I don't like the idzik hire, i don't like what we did in the offseason, i don't like the crap team we fielded last year, and i don't like the direction the franchise is going. and this is a public forum that i've been a part of for a long time and i have the right to express by opinion on what the team is doing. If you want to disagree that fine, try to do it w/o coming off as an ass though.

How did you think TS would help? The Miami O was so effective. And you are not being realistic. If you were you would be saying something more like.... I wish we would have resigned Revis and drafted XXXXX players but Idzik took what the Jets thought were the best players on the board or something to that effect but instead you go on and on about how he is the devil and we are doomed like a little 5 year old having a moment in the toy section. If you honestly think he was unprepared your a fool. He has been though of as one of the most logical people in the NFL. I would rather come off like an ass and be right than spew a bunch of short sighted, butt hurt crap like you have. The difference between your opinion and others is yours is targeted for this year only and no regard for the big picture.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 02:35 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

geno might not be the answer but taking a chance on a QB especially the top rated one (even in a weak draft) is never a bad idea. one GM said you shold draft a QB eevry year. i mean the falcons drafted schaub in the 3rd and traded him for a 1st and 3rd, the pats took cassell in the 6th and traded him for a 2nd rounder. QBs are always good investments to take chances on IMO. and if he doens't pan out losing a 2nd isn't as bad as losing a top 5 pick (sanchez)

Schaub trade

Schaub was actually traded for 2 second round picks and they swapped firsts (8th and 10th overall). And Vrabel was part of the Cassel trade, the Chiefs got 2 seasons from him. Your seriously so wrong ALL the time, it's actually quite remarkable...
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 30 April 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

How do you know they wanted Spiller or Mcclain? Were you in their war room? The Jets top 4 ranked players were Tavon Austin, Chance Warmack, Dee Milliner, and Sheldon Richardson. So why would they want Barkevious Mingo? Mingo was never their guy. Tavon Austin was if he fell.


you claim i don't know what was in their war room, then state what was in the jets war room. how do you know?
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:12 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 April 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

How did you think TS would help? The Miami O was so effective. And you are not being realistic. If you were you would be saying something more like.... I wish we would have resigned Revis and drafted XXXXX players but Idzik took what the Jets thought were the best players on the board or something to that effect but instead you go on and on about how he is the devil and we are doomed like a little 5 year old having a moment in the toy section. If you honestly think he was unprepared your a fool. He has been though of as one of the most logical people in the NFL. I would rather come off like an ass and be right than spew a bunch of short sighted, butt hurt crap like you have. The difference between your opinion and others is yours is targeted for this year only and no regard for the big picture.


you know idzik is a numbers guy like MT was right? not a scouting guy.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 30 April 2013 - 12:42 PM, said:

The troll is strong with this one. This reminds me of Parks and Rec, when Clemens11 left, nature replaced him through natural selection. I give you....115!



This thread is stupid conjecture, but you've now given me an excuse to post this video clip.


View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 30 April 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Schaub trade

Schaub was actually traded for 2 second round picks and they swapped firsts (8th and 10th overall). And Vrabel was part of the Cassel trade, the Chiefs got 2 seasons from him. Your seriously so wrong ALL the time, it's actually quite remarkable...

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 30 April 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

Schaub trade

Schaub was actually traded for 2 second round picks and they swapped firsts (8th and 10th overall). And Vrabel was part of the Cassel trade, the Chiefs got 2 seasons from him. Your seriously so wrong ALL the time, it's actually quite remarkable...


either way getting 2 2nd rounders and moving up 2 spots in the 1st is a lot to get from a 3rd round pick. its more then we got for revis who is a future HOFer

and vrabel was old and long in the tooth at the time of the trade. probably would have been released and dind't last long in KC. and still they turned a 6th round drafted QB into a 2nd round pick which is exactly my point. doesn't matter if it worked out for KC or not.

and the eagles did it for kolb as well. drafted him, he had a few good games, and traded him for a profit.

you make the worst arguments ever man. and your going to law school. dam your gonna lose alot of cases
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

you know idzik is a numbers guy like MT was right? not a scouting guy.

So that makes him unprepared? You also realize people can do more than one thing. Its not like he is a unitasker.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

you claim i don't know what was in their war room, then state what was in the jets war room. how do you know?

Holy Shizzle, I almost pissed my pants laughing this is such a stupid statement.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:18 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 April 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

So that makes him unprepared? You also realize people can do more than one thing. Its not like he is a unitasker.


not all people. I doubt idzik can walk and chew gum at the same time.

and he was unprepared. when autin was gone at 8 he panicked and didn't know what to do. the rams were prepared they had a trade lined up for austin and the bills and puled the trigger as soon as he was there. The rams came prepared. idzik just sat back and hoped for things to work out and settled for consolation prizes
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:22 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

not all people. I doubt idzik can walk and chew gum at the same time.

and he was unprepared. when autin was gone at 8 he panicked and didn't know what to do. the rams were prepared they had a trade lined up for austin and the bills and puled the trigger as soon as he was there. The rams came prepared. idzik just sat back and hoped for things to work out and settled for consolation prizes

You are speculating at best. Just making shit up so you can sleep tonight I guess.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

you know idzik is a numbers guy like MT was right? not a scouting guy.



Actually, hes both. Keep hating.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

not all people. I doubt idzik can walk and chew gum at the same time.

and he was unprepared. when autin was gone at 8 he panicked and didn't know what to do. the rams were prepared they had a trade lined up for austin and the bills and puled the trigger as soon as he was there. The rams came prepared. idzik just sat back and hoped for things to work out and settled for consolation prizes


YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!!! YOU CAN'T PRESENT YOUR GUESSES (READ: WISHES) AS FACT!!!

Come on 115, you're better than this...you've always been rational (except when it comes to the Giants and Stephen Hill), but this is just getting ridiculous. It's fair to say you're not pleased or impressed with Idzik's free agent acquisitions and drafting...but you're just making shit up right now.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:10 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 30 April 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

either way getting 2 2nd rounders and moving up 2 spots in the 1st is a lot to get from a 3rd round pick. its more then we got for revis who is a future HOFer


Actually...no it's not.

According to the draft trade value chart(the usefulness of which can be debated, but for now it's all we've got), the Jets got more for Revis:

Revis Trade:
- 13th pick: 1,150 points
- 3rd Round: 190 points (Since we don't know which pick it will be I used the 16th pick in the 3rd round, halfsies)

Schaub Trade:
- 8th for 10th: 100 points (Differential between the two picks)
- 2nd Round 2007: 510 points
- 2nd Round 2008: 420 points (Since this was a future pick we'll use the halfsies rule again)

Grand Total

Jets: 1,340 points

Falcons: 1,030 points

Jets win!
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:24 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 30 April 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT!!! YOU CAN'T PRESENT YOUR GUESSES (READ: WISHES) AS FACT!!!

Come on 115, you're better than this...you've always been rational (except when it comes to the Giants and Stephen Hill), but this is just getting ridiculous. It's fair to say you're not pleased or impressed with Idzik's free agent acquisitions and drafting...but you're just making shit up right now.


nothing that happened that draft looked to be planned. idzik was confident that mingo or autin would be there at 9 and shit the bed and just took BPA. it happens. how many times do we play fantasy fotball and we think i can wait it out and this guy will fall to me, then someone takes him and you take the BPA instead. idzik didn't look prepared to lose austin and mingo, he lost them and settled on his BPA which is Millner. What if the BPA was a LT and we took him? would you be pleased with that BPA? What if it was a center?

The last 5-6 drafts look like we had plans. we drafted needs, filled holes, had some hits and yeah some misses but who doens't. we had a plan for a QB and made the move for sanchez. it sucked that he failed but at the time it was a good move. They could turn out to be good moves, but at this time it just doesn't feel like a good draft to me. Idzik doens't seem like the right guy to me either. even our GM search was a spectacle, we hired an outside agency to find a GM that was a nobody on the seahawks staff (what have they won in the last 20 years?) so excuse me if i'm not happy we hired a lackey from a crap franchise to run our franchise and he trads our best player and drafts one of the same position and nother d-lineman when he still haven't address pass rusher. we've neded OLBs for the past 4-5 drafts. MT ignored it and i would have liked to see idzik address it. he said that OLB was a priority before the draft even started and then he ignored it still. and not only with the 1st round but teh entire draft we didn't get 1 OLB. thats sad. yet we have 3 HBs and a FB on the roster and he trades a pick for another average HB and uses a draft pick on a FB. we could have used those 4 picks on OLBs the only picks i liked were the 2nd and 3rd rounders. good value and fills a need. draft picks should be BOTH GOOD AND FILL A NEED. not just one of those.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:28 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 30 April 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Actually...no it's not.

According to the draft trade value chart(the usefulness of which can be debated, but for now it's all we've got), the Jets got more for Revis:

Revis Trade:
- 13th pick: 1,150 points
- 3rd Round: 190 points (Since we don't know which pick it will be I used the 16th pick in the 3rd round, halfsies)

Schaub Trade:
- 8th for 10th: 100 points (Differential between the two picks)
- 2nd Round 2007: 510 points
- 2nd Round 2008: 420 points (Since this was a future pick we'll use the halfsies rule again)

Grand Total

Jets: 1,340 points

Falcons: 1,030 points

Jets win!


except the fact taht we gave up a 4 time probowler, 2 time all pro, future hOF, and best defensive player in the NFL

the falcons gave up their back-up QB who played 3 games due to their starter being injured. We got 2 1st rounders for keyshawn johnson as well. doens't mean it was a good trade for TB. they even won a SB with him but it was still a bad trade on their part.

and my point was drafting a QB late could lead to good future returns cause if they play a few games good you can trade them to a team in need of a QB for much more then it cost you. its happened with shcaub, cassell, and kolb. its a fact all 3 teams got more for the trade then what they invested
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 04:38 PM

...this is unreal.
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:09 PM

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 05:37 PM

Alright I give up...it's hopeless...
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