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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

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@‏nyjetscap - We had the Ivory numbers earlier today... http://www.overtheca...on=RB&Team=Jets #Jets

@‏nyjetscap - Its essentially a 1 year deal, like most of the #jets new deals, that they can get out of next year if he continues to play all of 6 games

@‏nyjetscap - Its a team being built with band aids for 2013 while they prepare for huge cap space in 2014. #Jets




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@RichCimini - RB Chris Ivory didn't receive $10M, as widely reported. It was 3 yr deal, $6M, including $2.25 signing bonus. #Jets

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:27 PM

Nice, hopefully he stays healthy and proves to be our featured RB. If he can stay healthy hes a major upgrade over Greene.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 02:46 PM

I hope its friendly. Ivory is the new McCareins.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:01 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

I hope its friendly. Ivory is the new McCareins.


Well we still have the Greene clone in Powell if he is.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:32 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 03 May 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

Well we still have the Greene clone in Powell if he is.


The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:57 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.



He hasn't performed worse every season, he just wasn't given the carries on a team with a loaded backfield. All you have to do is watch him play to see he deserves a chance.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:13 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 03 May 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

He hasn't performed worse every season, he just wasn't given the carries on a team with a loaded backfield. All you have to do is watch him play to see he deserves a chance.


I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:30 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.


I wouldn't say he gets worse every year the saints have 4 RBs. Keep in mind they also dont run the ball They have Brees throw 40+ times almost every game
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 06:11 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.

I had my eye on him before last season...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 09:19 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.


And did you break down all 256 of his career carries to form your opinion?...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 10:18 AM

I'm sure we'd have drafted a ProBowler with the 4th rounder we gave up for him...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:06 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 04 May 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

And did you break down all 256 of his career carries to form your opinion?...


No. But I'm not the one saying if you watch him you'll see. I'm not a youtube-hero trying to act like my opinion is superior because I watch three minute videos with Pitbull singing over them.

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:11 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.


Actually it's pretty easy to break down. He has the speed to get to the outside. He runs with power and hits the hole hard. He has hands to catch the occasional dump off. That's all we were looking for. We didn't have a combination of "speed, power, hands" on the roster. We traded a mid rounder and got a guy with almost no miles on his legs and someone who will fit into the WC perfectly.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

https://www.youtube....h?v=UZrQoU8oU_k

Look at the 1:17 mark and then the 1:35 mark. That's all we really needed to see.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:45 AM

I'm not going to watch a youtube video to get excited about a guy who has produced less every season and I'm not going to make excuses for why he is a great addition. I see him as a slight upgrade over Greene in that he will probably produce some longer runs, but I don't believe he will be our starting RB in two or three years.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:34 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

No. But I'm not the one saying if you watch him you'll see. I'm not a youtube-hero trying to act like my opinion is superior because I watch three minute videos with Pitbull singing over them.

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.


But you are the one who proclaimed he got worse every year...so how is that any different? Unless you watched every one of Ivory's snap, shut up. I'm willing to bet you didn't see more than 5 of Ivory's plays...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:20 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 04 May 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

But you are the one who proclaimed he got worse every year...so how is that any different? Unless you watched every one of Ivory's snap, shut up. I'm willing to bet you didn't see more than 5 of Ivory's plays...


I meant his production. And I'm not claiming I saw all his plays (I watched one or two Saints games, so maybe I did or didn't see five carries, since he barely had five carries in a game-I might have missed some), I'm going off the fact he was their fourth RB and not used that much, loaded backfield or not. You get used the least, you got used the least. Jesus Christ.

No wonder the membership on this board dwindles more all the time. All this board has turned into is people acting like they are the top dog on everything and telling people to shut up.

I remember when people on here used to actually discuss football. Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything. Don't worry HJ, I know you know more about me than football. Congrats.

f*** this.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:36 PM

I don't know much about Ivory. I think was is happening in this thread is we are confusing stats with ability. Stats are fun to look at but they are stats. They don't tell the whole story. Lets see what this guy brings to the table.he has the physical ability. It was a good trade at the time. We may look back and decide different but for now the value is there.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

I meant his production. And I'm not claiming I saw all his plays (I watched one or two Saints games, so maybe I did or didn't see five carries, since he barely had five carries in a game-I might have missed some), I'm going off the fact he was their fourth RB and not used that much, loaded backfield or not. You get used the least, you got used the least. Jesus Christ.

No wonder the membership on this board dwindles more all the time. All this board has turned into is people acting like they are the top dog on everything and telling people to shut up.

I remember when people on here used to actually discuss football. Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything. Don't worry HJ, I know you know more about me than football. Congrats.

f*** this.


Hey man, you attacked 0099 first...I was just defending him. By the way, he had the highest YPC of his career last year...how's that for stats.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 07:07 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything.



View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.


Yes, it does seem that way, doesn't it?
"My first thought was I looked and I saw who was second and [thought], 'Hey, I finally beat Belichick at something. I got him. I knew it would take time, but I finally got him.'"
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