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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

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@‏nyjetscap - We had the Ivory numbers earlier today... http://www.overtheca...on=RB&Team=Jets #Jets

@‏nyjetscap - Its essentially a 1 year deal, like most of the #jets new deals, that they can get out of next year if he continues to play all of 6 games

@‏nyjetscap - Its a team being built with band aids for 2013 while they prepare for huge cap space in 2014. #Jets




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@RichCimini - RB Chris Ivory didn't receive $10M, as widely reported. It was 3 yr deal, $6M, including $2.25 signing bonus. #Jets

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:27 PM

Nice, hopefully he stays healthy and proves to be our featured RB. If he can stay healthy hes a major upgrade over Greene.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 02:46 PM

I hope its friendly. Ivory is the new McCareins.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:01 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

I hope its friendly. Ivory is the new McCareins.


Well we still have the Greene clone in Powell if he is.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:32 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 03 May 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

Well we still have the Greene clone in Powell if he is.


The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:57 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.



He hasn't performed worse every season, he just wasn't given the carries on a team with a loaded backfield. All you have to do is watch him play to see he deserves a chance.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:13 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 03 May 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

He hasn't performed worse every season, he just wasn't given the carries on a team with a loaded backfield. All you have to do is watch him play to see he deserves a chance.


I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:30 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.


I wouldn't say he gets worse every year the saints have 4 RBs. Keep in mind they also dont run the ball They have Brees throw 40+ times almost every game
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 06:11 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.

I had my eye on him before last season...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 09:19 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.


And did you break down all 256 of his career carries to form your opinion?...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 10:18 AM

I'm sure we'd have drafted a ProBowler with the 4th rounder we gave up for him...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:06 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 04 May 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

And did you break down all 256 of his career carries to form your opinion?...


No. But I'm not the one saying if you watch him you'll see. I'm not a youtube-hero trying to act like my opinion is superior because I watch three minute videos with Pitbull singing over them.

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:11 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.


Actually it's pretty easy to break down. He has the speed to get to the outside. He runs with power and hits the hole hard. He has hands to catch the occasional dump off. That's all we were looking for. We didn't have a combination of "speed, power, hands" on the roster. We traded a mid rounder and got a guy with almost no miles on his legs and someone who will fit into the WC perfectly.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

https://www.youtube....h?v=UZrQoU8oU_k

Look at the 1:17 mark and then the 1:35 mark. That's all we really needed to see.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:45 AM

I'm not going to watch a youtube video to get excited about a guy who has produced less every season and I'm not going to make excuses for why he is a great addition. I see him as a slight upgrade over Greene in that he will probably produce some longer runs, but I don't believe he will be our starting RB in two or three years.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:34 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

No. But I'm not the one saying if you watch him you'll see. I'm not a youtube-hero trying to act like my opinion is superior because I watch three minute videos with Pitbull singing over them.

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.


But you are the one who proclaimed he got worse every year...so how is that any different? Unless you watched every one of Ivory's snap, shut up. I'm willing to bet you didn't see more than 5 of Ivory's plays...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:20 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 04 May 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

But you are the one who proclaimed he got worse every year...so how is that any different? Unless you watched every one of Ivory's snap, shut up. I'm willing to bet you didn't see more than 5 of Ivory's plays...


I meant his production. And I'm not claiming I saw all his plays (I watched one or two Saints games, so maybe I did or didn't see five carries, since he barely had five carries in a game-I might have missed some), I'm going off the fact he was their fourth RB and not used that much, loaded backfield or not. You get used the least, you got used the least. Jesus Christ.

No wonder the membership on this board dwindles more all the time. All this board has turned into is people acting like they are the top dog on everything and telling people to shut up.

I remember when people on here used to actually discuss football. Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything. Don't worry HJ, I know you know more about me than football. Congrats.

f*** this.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:36 PM

I don't know much about Ivory. I think was is happening in this thread is we are confusing stats with ability. Stats are fun to look at but they are stats. They don't tell the whole story. Lets see what this guy brings to the table.he has the physical ability. It was a good trade at the time. We may look back and decide different but for now the value is there.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

I meant his production. And I'm not claiming I saw all his plays (I watched one or two Saints games, so maybe I did or didn't see five carries, since he barely had five carries in a game-I might have missed some), I'm going off the fact he was their fourth RB and not used that much, loaded backfield or not. You get used the least, you got used the least. Jesus Christ.

No wonder the membership on this board dwindles more all the time. All this board has turned into is people acting like they are the top dog on everything and telling people to shut up.

I remember when people on here used to actually discuss football. Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything. Don't worry HJ, I know you know more about me than football. Congrats.

f*** this.


Hey man, you attacked 0099 first...I was just defending him. By the way, he had the highest YPC of his career last year...how's that for stats.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 07:07 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything.



View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.


Yes, it does seem that way, doesn't it?
"My first thought was I looked and I saw who was second and [thought], 'Hey, I finally beat Belichick at something. I got him. I knew it would take time, but I finally got him.'"
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