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Posted 30 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

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@‏nyjetscap - We had the Ivory numbers earlier today... http://www.overtheca...on=RB&Team=Jets #Jets

@‏nyjetscap - Its essentially a 1 year deal, like most of the #jets new deals, that they can get out of next year if he continues to play all of 6 games

@‏nyjetscap - Its a team being built with band aids for 2013 while they prepare for huge cap space in 2014. #Jets




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@RichCimini - RB Chris Ivory didn't receive $10M, as widely reported. It was 3 yr deal, $6M, including $2.25 signing bonus. #Jets

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 08:27 PM

Nice, hopefully he stays healthy and proves to be our featured RB. If he can stay healthy hes a major upgrade over Greene.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 02:46 PM

I hope its friendly. Ivory is the new McCareins.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:01 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

I hope its friendly. Ivory is the new McCareins.


Well we still have the Greene clone in Powell if he is.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:32 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 03 May 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

Well we still have the Greene clone in Powell if he is.


The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:57 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.



He hasn't performed worse every season, he just wasn't given the carries on a team with a loaded backfield. All you have to do is watch him play to see he deserves a chance.
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:13 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 03 May 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

He hasn't performed worse every season, he just wasn't given the carries on a team with a loaded backfield. All you have to do is watch him play to see he deserves a chance.


I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:30 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

The problem with McCareins was more what we put into him than what we got out. I think a fourth is too much for someone who has performed worse every season he has been in the league.


I wouldn't say he gets worse every year the saints have 4 RBs. Keep in mind they also dont run the ball They have Brees throw 40+ times almost every game
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 06:11 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.

I had my eye on him before last season...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 09:19 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.


And did you break down all 256 of his career carries to form your opinion?...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 10:18 AM

I'm sure we'd have drafted a ProBowler with the 4th rounder we gave up for him...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:06 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 04 May 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

And did you break down all 256 of his career carries to form your opinion?...


No. But I'm not the one saying if you watch him you'll see. I'm not a youtube-hero trying to act like my opinion is superior because I watch three minute videos with Pitbull singing over them.

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:11 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.


Actually it's pretty easy to break down. He has the speed to get to the outside. He runs with power and hits the hole hard. He has hands to catch the occasional dump off. That's all we were looking for. We didn't have a combination of "speed, power, hands" on the roster. We traded a mid rounder and got a guy with almost no miles on his legs and someone who will fit into the WC perfectly.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

https://www.youtube....h?v=UZrQoU8oU_k

Look at the 1:17 mark and then the 1:35 mark. That's all we really needed to see.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 11:45 AM

I'm not going to watch a youtube video to get excited about a guy who has produced less every season and I'm not going to make excuses for why he is a great addition. I see him as a slight upgrade over Greene in that he will probably produce some longer runs, but I don't believe he will be our starting RB in two or three years.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 12:34 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

No. But I'm not the one saying if you watch him you'll see. I'm not a youtube-hero trying to act like my opinion is superior because I watch three minute videos with Pitbull singing over them.

Dude has gotten so little use over the last two years there isn't much to break down. I doubt a lot of people can evaluate a player based on what they did with six or seven carries over the course of six games, but again, I'm not acting like I do.


But you are the one who proclaimed he got worse every year...so how is that any different? Unless you watched every one of Ivory's snap, shut up. I'm willing to bet you didn't see more than 5 of Ivory's plays...
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:20 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 04 May 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

But you are the one who proclaimed he got worse every year...so how is that any different? Unless you watched every one of Ivory's snap, shut up. I'm willing to bet you didn't see more than 5 of Ivory's plays...


I meant his production. And I'm not claiming I saw all his plays (I watched one or two Saints games, so maybe I did or didn't see five carries, since he barely had five carries in a game-I might have missed some), I'm going off the fact he was their fourth RB and not used that much, loaded backfield or not. You get used the least, you got used the least. Jesus Christ.

No wonder the membership on this board dwindles more all the time. All this board has turned into is people acting like they are the top dog on everything and telling people to shut up.

I remember when people on here used to actually discuss football. Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything. Don't worry HJ, I know you know more about me than football. Congrats.

f*** this.

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1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:36 PM

I don't know much about Ivory. I think was is happening in this thread is we are confusing stats with ability. Stats are fun to look at but they are stats. They don't tell the whole story. Lets see what this guy brings to the table.he has the physical ability. It was a good trade at the time. We may look back and decide different but for now the value is there.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

I meant his production. And I'm not claiming I saw all his plays (I watched one or two Saints games, so maybe I did or didn't see five carries, since he barely had five carries in a game-I might have missed some), I'm going off the fact he was their fourth RB and not used that much, loaded backfield or not. You get used the least, you got used the least. Jesus Christ.

No wonder the membership on this board dwindles more all the time. All this board has turned into is people acting like they are the top dog on everything and telling people to shut up.

I remember when people on here used to actually discuss football. Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything. Don't worry HJ, I know you know more about me than football. Congrats.

f*** this.


Hey man, you attacked 0099 first...I was just defending him. By the way, he had the highest YPC of his career last year...how's that for stats.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 07:07 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Now all anyone does is post links to random articles or youtube videos or guys like you, who used to actually debate, drop one sentence posts acting superior anytime anyone says anything.



View Posta1elbow2.0, on 03 May 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

I'm sure you really broke down all forty of his carries he had last season to form that opinion.


Yes, it does seem that way, doesn't it?
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