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ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) If someone calls me an idiot or moron or stupid over a football debate it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But when you make things personal like with racist things or family crap its a whole different level
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) I felt my FLiHi remark was as "harmless" as you did calling another person a Moron and stupid because they didn't agree with your opinion
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:38 PM) my friends and I call each other morons and stupid an laugh at each other when we do something stupid like when we are drinking. It means nothing. and we laugh about it because its harmless. I'm trying to tell you this is a big difference between what you say to people and what others do.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:40 PM) Heck 115 rags me a lot and it doesnt bother me in the least. i rag him too. Same with GG2003 and SHJ. There is a difference between friendly banter and disagreements and crossing the line
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:44 PM) So your opinion of the line is right and my opinion is wrong? Is that what your saying? I don't know you. I'm not a drinking buddy of yours. Maybe you should learn some social tact.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) you felt it was harmless but you were the only one. Everyone else understood why I got was extremely offended about it the first time because you cross the line with what you say to people. Apparently you realized it enough to send me a long pm apologizing and having communication problems that get you in trouble sometimes. But now you cant understand the difference?
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:48 PM) I understand why. What I'm saying is if you take a jab people will jab back. Have you heard that saying " dont throw rocks when you live in a glass house?"
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:49 PM) The way you understand things if I call you an idiot about not wanting to trade for a high end qb its no different from me disrespecting your family. Thats what Im getting from you. So the way you see things everything is equally personal
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:50 PM) From complete strangers on an Internet forum? Yes. Man up
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM) Nod the debate was if he is a "high end" player. I thought he was well above average but not worth a 6th overall pick
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:55 PM) Not worth my time to even acknowledge anymore. Just going to ignore you like I do Mr. Jet. You have a lot of mental growing up to do.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) That's funny coming from a guy who went butt f*** crazy a couple hours ago
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) Meanwhile you can't seem to respect that others opinions are different than yours
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:59 PM) You are emotionally weak. You went through some serious shit growing up and you can't adjust. You take it out on your keyboard.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) When someone challenges your immaturity you have a complete crazy freak out and act like a girl on her first period
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) Hence the "go wipe your pussy and man up comment
Mr_Jet Icon : (15 April 2015 - 10:16 PM) Please Rob, leave my name out of your little bitchfest.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 11:46 PM) My bad. You have been respecting my request to you I had a while backI made to you by us not commenting to each other to keep peace between us. I was totally in the wrong for bringing your name up at all and into an argument with member that has issues. I got furious furious with a child. I should've just ignored him like I do the other immature kids on some game forums and sites I belong to. Wont happen again. My apologies for bringing your name into it Mr. Jet.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:04 AM) Dude.... Get back on your meds.
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:47 AM) WTF? Really???
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:48 AM) Now back to our regular scheduled program......
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Lol that escalated quickly
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:24 AM) Rex is chirping again.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) He said he is going to try and kick the Shit out of the Jets
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) http://sports.yahoo....l8xBHNlYwNzcg--
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I still like the guy. He's entertaining
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:25 PM) i miss rex. love his demeanor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:26 PM) i'd be happy if he kicks the shit out of miami and NE every year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I'm excited for the new coaching staff
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) Rex wsa fun, but he was too much with the defense instead of the entire football team
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:57 PM) also he didn't always hold players accountable. I think Bowles will make the team more disciplined.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:50 AM) I don't have any faith in bowles
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) “San Diego Chargers will ultimately make a deal with the Tennessee Titans for the number two overall pick. As part of that trade, the Chargers will send the number 17 overall pick and Philip Rivers, just as a start, for the number two pick.”
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) Damn... Who called it? This guy.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 AM) http://national.sunt...s-mariota-trade
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) So we would now lose out on maroita and rivers
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) Ain't that super
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:39 PM) do we make a trade for AP?
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:41 PM) I believe the rivers stuff is all speculation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) So a top ten qb and the 17th pick for the 2nd overall as a start? Makes sense
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) So Many smokescreens this time of year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:08 PM) only 2 more weeks before we find out. draft day will be exciting
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:09 PM) my money is we'll take a pass rushing OLB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) Yup, unless they trade up.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 03:14 PM

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Idzik brings fresh start to rotten Jets
A dose of clear-eyed sanity seems to be finally creeping back into the franchise
Updated: May 1, 2013, 4:01 PM ET
By Johnette Howard | ESPNNewYork.com
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The idea that the Jets are going to stink extravagantly in 2013 is accepted as gospel. So how is it possible to feel so much better about them anyway? How can that be?

It's a counterintuitive, even odd thing to say. The Jets are convening with their new draft picks for the first time just this week. But the feeling has everything to do with the early days of John Idzik's new regime -- or more specifically, the way the Jets' first-time general manager inherited the NFL equivalent of a hazmat site when he arrived and, in a very short time, has nonetheless sparked a little belief that the coming pain will be worth it for the franchise, for a change.

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General manager John Idzik has acted swiftly and confidently since joining the Jets.
Jets fans know pain too well. But the Jets' recent big-tent policy -- give us your malcontents, your knuckleheads, your loudmouth preeners and we'll proudly display them center stage in a miniseries on HBO -- feels as if it could be over since Idzik's arrival.

The clown car that used to jolt to a stop outside Florham Park is parked on a back lot. A little clear-eyed sanity finally -- finally! -- seems to be creeping back into a franchise that hasn't been known for serious-minded management the past few years. Rex Ryan's goofy Sanchez tattoo is the least of it.

The wrongheadedness of bringing Tim Tebow here was gallingly obvious from the moment he arrived. Yet somehow, when Idzik cut poor Tebow on Monday -- another absurdity finally acknowledged -- it still felt refreshing when Ryan conceded for the first time what he should've said long ago: Tebow's treatment here was crazier than bringing him here in the first place.

Of course, by then it was too little, too late.

The Jets have been crying out for a reality check.

They were in denial before the Rex Tilt-a-Wheel gave way to Neutered Rex.

Idzik took over a lot of situations that had exploding-cigar potential. And yet, from the start, he has shown a sure hand and willingness to make hard choices across the board. He drafted Geno Smith after everyone else passed on him in the first round, rattled Mark Sanchez's cage, got the salary-cap mess that Mike Tannenbaum left him under better control, and traded Darrelle Revis on the Jets' timetable, not Revis' or the Bucs' -- then objected in a calm but firm way when asked about Revis' parting insinuation that he was untruthful with him.

"Absolutely not," Idzik said this week on "The Mike Lupica Show" on ESPN NY 98.7. "I'll be called a lot of names, have been in my career, will be in the future. Dishonest is not one of them. Anyone that's worked with me directly, anyone that knows me, knows that. ... Honesty and integrity will always be a calling card of the Jets. It's always been a big part of who I am. That will never change."

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It's not often a new guy takes on his franchise's potential Hall of Fame player and doesn't flinch before or after shipping him out of town.

And that should only inspire faith about Idzik's ability to make the right call on Ryan's fate.

That could be delicate for a different new guy in town since owner Woody Johnson kept Rex when Tannenbaum was fired. But Idzik has calmly made no apologies for letting Ryan roll into this year on a hot seat that this new GM made only hotter by letting so many of last year's starters walk in free agency.

The Jets are a teardown, not a tweak. Idzik has made no bones about that either.

What's been astonishing is how quickly long-suffering Jets fans have accepted that this is going to require a little patience.

Patience is so not New York. And again, the explanation has to be this: It's been a blast of fresh air and hope to finally have someone at Florham Park who frames things with reality as his guide -- not bravado, not bluster, not inexplicably bad judgments about things that seem so obvious to everyone else.

And that felt especially true again at the retro sight of Rex reminding folks earlier this week, "I think our football team, since I've been here as head coach, has actually won more playoff games than the New England Patriots. I'm just throwing that out there because it seems like it gets lost."

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Oh no.

Still with the Belichick thing, Rex? Still?

Ryan willfully ignored the many, many other games the Jets lost.

Or how they haven't even made the postseason the past two years.

Or how it's never a good thing when the Butt Fumble is your most-watched highlight of 2012.

No matter.

Idzik seems to have a strong grasp of the truth. He seems to have an idea of how to run a team, how to manage the message, how to confront conflict or brush fires and not flinch even under the threat of personal attack. It's also nice to be confronted with a Jets GM who stresses "integrity" over being suspected of making moves to sell PSLs. He's been very good at explaining his philosophical planks in clear language too. The coddling is over. He says competition, the pressure to perform, breeds better football teams.

Of course, we still don't know if Idzik has an eye for talent evaluation. Again, it's very, very early in his stay. Yet even to a cynic, it feels as though the Jets' circus has been replaced by an encounter group run by a grown-up who demands genuine accountability. And his name is not Rex.

That's reason enough to drop the black humor and dare to believe that better days are ahead for the Jets, distant as they may be.

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