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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 01:51 PM

Welcome to New York Geno, where the media will work tirelessly to cripple your career before it even begins.

I was doing my morning daily rounds and I stumbled across an article on NFL.com by Marc Sessler, who makes several interesting points regarding these anonymous sources and Geno Smith:

Had Geno Smith been snatched up by, say, the San Diego Chargers to sit and learn behind Philip Rivers, you probably wouldn't be reading this.

Instead, Smith was drafted by the New York Jets, and the former West Virginia quarterback -- thrown into Gotham's media grinder -- now finds himself under a mountain of post-draft criticism.

This is the sad truth, now tell me the New York media, especially the media surrounding the Jets is not a hindrance to this organization. Had he been drafted by San Diego, he would still be the same player, he would have still fired his agents and he would have still been texting on his phone during visits, but their media would not crucify him like ours is trying to do. They would focus on his game, how is he going to play with the receivers we have? how will he adapt to the west coast offense? How is he getting on with the play-book handed to him the first day?

I say this because I follow a lot of beat reporters on twitter and i don't just read news from the Jets. The likes of San Diego, the likes of San Francisco, Pittsburgh and I'll even say New England have football people on their beat. We have tabloid people, more suited to working for TMZ than following a team and reporting on the football news the fans find relevant. Last night I read an article about Bill Belichick, his thoughts on the draft class and how he handles home sickness for his rookie players. I switch to the Jets, they are relating quotes from anonymous sources about how Geno Smith is a spoiled brat and how Mark Sanchez's hairband was a little off. We have known for some time that our beat reporters represent a flesh eating disease slowing chomping at the bit while we represent the white blood cells, eager but unable to fight them off.

Smith has been squeaky clean off the field, but who could guess from the snowstorm of criticism he's facing? After all, it takes little courage for anonymous scouts to pile on a player who hasn't taken a professional snap.

It takes plenty of courage to endure it.

I applaud Marc Sessler for speaking out about these anonymous sources, the only metric we lead the league in season after season. I have seen rival fans mention that it is Jets paranoia that players drafted by us are treated differently to players drafted by other organizations. Well it's not, as Marc put it so well in the first quote, had he been drafted in San Diego, we would probably not even be reading this article, and that is completely accurate.

Unfortunately for us, this isn't going to go away. As long as we have certain beat reporters following this football team we will always have to suffer through TMZ style reporting. Something that gets to us, and something that will get to the players. They are not immune to these criticisms, they will come out and say all the right things, but criticism will eat you alive if you hear it enough. The simple fact is that it is my own personal belief that a lot of our beat reporters use anonymous sources and sensationalist headlines to make up for a lack of real football knowledge. Which is why they create and seek tabloid like stories.

This is a clear message to Geno. We don't care if some NFC executive took you off their board because of what he perceived you to be in a couple of hours of your time. Their loss, our gain. We don't care if you tweeted a friend while at a facility, or that after 20 interviews at the combine you didn't blow the roof off the interview. We don't care if you made a business decision to fire your agents because they didn't represent you like they should. If they gave you bad advice that cost you a couple of million $, you should fire them and we would all do the same thin.

We do care that you are now a part of the franchise and represent hope for the future. We do care that you have never once had any off the field issues and you worked to help the community while in West Virginia. We do care that you threw 98 touchdowns to just 21 interceptions through your career at West Virginia. We do care that you completed over 70% of your passes in your senior year. We do care that you had a quick short release and impeccable accuracy in short to medium routes, which fits perfectly with our new west coast offense.

Unfortunately for us, the beat reporters will continue to be a plague, a black mark against this franchise.
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:41 PM

Put Rich Cimini at the top of this heap of shit reporters. He is just as bad as the tabloid style guys, but tries to hide under this cocksure "football guy" attitude. God I hate his writing.
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:42 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 07 May 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Put Rich Cimini at the top of this heap of shit reporters. He is just as bad as the tabloid style guys, but tries to hide under this cocksure "football guy" attitude. God I hate his writing.


I've seen him in camp. He watched practice for about 2 hours without taking a single note.
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:52 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 07 May 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

I've seen him in camp. He watched practice for about 2 hours without taking a single note.


Probably just sat there thinking about all the condescending things he can write about the Jets as if he some infallible football god
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 06:55 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 07 May 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Probably just sat there thinking about all the condescending things he can write about the Jets as if he some infallible football god


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i like to read your post and then read it like its always the final statement
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:38 PM

is it just ME or did anyone else notice that when a club made a pick...they showed the draftee's successes & stellar plays. Then when it came to our picks...they showed Milner's combine where dropped the ball what seemed like 2,395 time (cause they showed it so dam much) & Sheldon was a man dying of thirst...having a colander to drink out of? Maybe Im being too critical ... but I could swear all our picks got LOW lights while the rest of the draft was HIGH LIGHTS
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