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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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Wvu Oc On Geno Smith I'm tired of being the only one bringing shit to the table!

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 02:57 PM

West Virginia offensive coordinator Shannon Dawson has heard the words thrown around to describe his former protégé Geno Smith — brat ... gimmick ... coddled ... marginal work ethic — and wonders if they’re talking about the same quarterback he coached for two years.

“I never got the sense he was a diva or pampered or anything in my involvement with him,” Dawson said. “I never had one problem with him other than he watched too much film.”

“In my talks with him after the draft, he’s so fired up right now to prove this [jerk] wrong that he’s going to work and do it.”


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 03:18 PM

It's just that stigma about black QBs is all that shit is. Bullshit but it is what it is.
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 09 May 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

It's just that stigma about black QBs is all that shit is. Bullshit but it is what it is.


Nah I don't buy that any more. 3 years ago, yea. Now? Russel Wilson and RG3 are the hottest QBs in the league. Teddy Bridgewater is teh best QB prospect next year. The paradigm has shifted. Most of the shit that is landing on Geno has more to do with the fact that Jets drafted him rather than anything else. It's deemed that whoever we draft is "going to be a bust so lets figure out why".
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 09 May 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

Nah I don't buy that any more. 3 years ago, yea. Now? Russel Wilson and RG3 are the hottest QBs in the league. Teddy Bridgewater is teh best QB prospect next year. The paradigm has shifted. Most of the shit that is landing on Geno has more to do with the fact that Jets drafted him rather than anything else. It's deemed that whoever we draft is "going to be a bust so lets figure out why".


No.

It has to do with before the draft workouts and interviews him clearly being a top 10 pick. Then plummeting. Everyone is trying to put their thumb on why.
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 03:42 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 May 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

No.

It has to do with before the draft workouts and interviews him clearly being a top 10 pick. Then plummeting. Everyone is trying to put their thumb on why.


Rodgers plummeted. he could have been 1st overall if SF didn't want their hometown boy. and look how good he turned out
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 09 May 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

Nah I don't buy that any more. 3 years ago, yea. Now? Russel Wilson and RG3 are the hottest QBs in the league. Teddy Bridgewater is teh best QB prospect next year. The paradigm has shifted. Most of the shit that is landing on Geno has more to do with the fact that Jets drafted him rather than anything else. It's deemed that whoever we draft is "going to be a bust so lets figure out why".


I mean is it as prevalent as it once was? Absolutely not. However it has to do with a LOT of nitpicking thrown Geno's way whether we admit it (or realize it) or not
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 04:05 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 09 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I mean is it as prevalent as it once was? Absolutely not. However it has to do with a LOT of nitpicking thrown Geno's way whether we admit it (or realize it) or not


I don't want to discount it, because I'm sure to some writer's it is(at least subconsciously) on their mind. But, we didn't hear ANY of this talk before the draft...so it's hard to put this on race. This is all about falling out of the first round and going to the "circus" Jets, where the media is desperately looking for some ratings crutch to replace Tebow.

Like all the BS about 6 QB's on the roster, wwwuuuaaaahhhh!!!!! As if everyone and their mother didn't know that Tebow, Sims, and either McElroy/Garrard wouldn't be on the opening day roster. But it made for good headlines, I guess?
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 04:24 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 May 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

No.

It has to do with before the draft workouts and interviews him clearly being a top 10 pick. Then plummeting. Everyone is trying to put their thumb on why.


Disagree. If he were drafted at #38 by either Giants/Steelers/Broncos/Pats/9ers/Ravens (just imagine one of them picking at #38, one spot ahead of us) they would automatically get a A+ for this selection and Geno would be the epitome of the "smart team picks great player who fell because idiot teams like teh Jets can't never get it right". Since he was picked by the Jets, well, clearly something must be wrong with him.
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 06:19 PM

To me, I kind of believe the reports. I mean, we all see how he reacted during the draft with 2 or 3 picks left in the first round. The kid whined and ran out of the building and then said he wasn't coming back for the 2nd round like a child. I get that he was disappointed but that alone made me not want this guy with the 13th pick and made me even happier that we passed on him. It also shows to me that he is really immature. I am cool with a 2nd rounder on this guy, don't get me wrong but hows this guy going to react when a WR drops a pass for a first down? How will he react when he is having a bad game but they are still just one TD drive away from a W? If he freaked out during the draft...how will he react in a game, playing for the most hated and insulted team in the NFL, while also playing in NY? If Geno succeeds here, he will have succeeded anywhere.

I also buy partially that he is getting way more shit for being taken by the jets...the jets had a pretty productive draft on paper this year yet a lot of "experts" think the jets draft was mediocre or worse...I personally feel really good about this draft.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:18 PM

View Postextmenace, on 09 May 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

To me, I kind of believe the reports. I mean, we all see how he reacted during the draft with 2 or 3 picks left in the first round. The kid whined and ran out of the building and then said he wasn't coming back for the 2nd round like a child. I get that he was disappointed but that alone made me not want this guy with the 13th pick and made me even happier that we passed on him. It also shows to me that he is really immature. I am cool with a 2nd rounder on this guy, don't get me wrong but hows this guy going to react when a WR drops a pass for a first down? How will he react when he is having a bad game but they are still just one TD drive away from a W? If he freaked out during the draft...how will he react in a game, playing for the most hated and insulted team in the NFL, while also playing in NY? If Geno succeeds here, he will have succeeded anywhere.

I also buy partially that he is getting way more shit for being taken by the jets...the jets had a pretty productive draft on paper this year yet a lot of "experts" think the jets draft was mediocre or worse...I personally feel really good about this draft.


Oh please, he's a 22 year old who will become more mature as he spends time in the league. He is emotional and he'll have to get that under wraps to deal with the New York media bullshit. He was hyped up until the draft, he was invited to the Green Room on draft day, he was projected to go in the top 10, it went to his head. He spent four years of college prepping for the NFL and watching all the effort and money disappear by the minute? You would be upset too. This recent ripping on Geno is for no other reason then the fact that the Jets drafted him. I rather have a guy be emotionally upset at sliding then bitch and force teams to not pick them (Elway? Eli? Peyton?).
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:54 AM

View PostChaos, on 09 May 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Oh please, he's a 22 year old who will become more mature as he spends time in the league. He is emotional and he'll have to get that under wraps to deal with the New York media bullshit. He was hyped up until the draft, he was invited to the Green Room on draft day, he was projected to go in the top 10, it went to his head. He spent four years of college prepping for the NFL and watching all the effort and money disappear by the minute? You would be upset too. This recent ripping on Geno is for no other reason then the fact that the Jets drafted him. I rather have a guy be emotionally upset at sliding then bitch and force teams to not pick them (Elway? Eli? Peyton?).



Perception is reality there chaos...I've been watching the draft since about 2000...and I've never seen any of the other players who slip way further than they were projected act the way geno did. To want to do something is one thing, to actually have a temper tantrum is another. I get that he is a young kid, and that dropping had to really hurt inside. He went from making 4 million a year to maybe making just 4 million in his first contract. It is a bummer but with cameras everywhere, the guy should have stayed more composed. I'm rooting for the kid but he fell for a reason that had been floating around and his reaction to his fall kind of proved it.

And I'd much rather have a player that knows hes good enough to dictate where he will start his NFL career. Those 3 QB's you named have 5 super bowl championships and I believe 9 super bowl appearances. Peyton really not so much though...he saw that one of the NFL's worst franchises was going to be drafting first and decided that it would be in best his interest to play another year and hope that the jets didn't get the number 1 pick the following year. That happens quite often...

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:29 AM

View Postextmenace, on 10 May 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Peyton really not so much though...he saw that one of the NFL's worst franchises was going to be drafting first and decided that it would be in best his interest to play another year and hope that the jets didn't get the number 1 pick the following year. That happens quite often...


This is FALSE. Peyton wanted to come to the Jets. He wanted the bright lights of NY. Archie Manning approached Bill Parcells and wanted a guarantee that he would draft Peyton with the 1st overall. Parcells wouldn't commit to it so Archie told Peyton to go back for his senior year. Archie and Peyton wanted the Jets to draft him and would've been thrilled to play in NY. Parcells is the reason why he went back to school.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:13 AM

View PostChaos, on 10 May 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

Oh please, he's a 22 year old who will become more mature as he spends time in the league. He is emotional and he'll have to get that under wraps to deal with the New York media bullshit. He was hyped up until the draft, he was invited to the Green Room on draft day, he was projected to go in the top 10, it went to his head. He spent four years of college prepping for the NFL and watching all the effort and money disappear by the minute? You would be upset too. This recent ripping on Geno is for no other reason then the fact that the Jets drafted him. I rather have a guy be emotionally upset at sliding then bitch and force teams to not pick them (Elway? Eli? Peyton?).


Agreed. There will no doubt have been countless other players act emotionally on draft day to their slide. It's just that those only those in the Green Room will have their reactions shown publically.

Having recently watched the 30 for 30 documentary on the 1985 draft, which focused heavily on John Elway, I'd have reacted far worse if Smith acted in the kind of conceited, big time manner Elway did in the build up to the draft.
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