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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Nice Mornhinweg Tidbit Ivory could break out

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:33 PM

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New Jets OC Marty Mornhinweg's offenses have ranked in the top ten in yards-per-carry average eight times in Mornhinweg's 13 seasons as an NFL head coach or offensive coordinator.
The Jets are trying to get more athletic on the O-Line because Mornhinweg loves outside runs. "We're putting in more perimeter runs which has been Marty's thing, get some speed out there," coach Rex Ryan explained. "... We're pulling those guys and I think we are more athletic, especially at that guard spot." New feature back Chris Ivory has plenty of speed to beat linebackers to the edge.

http://www.rotoworld...168/chris-ivory
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:20 PM

I read a film breakdown of our new OG, Peterman, and pulling is his specialty.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:15 AM

we don't have a speed back. I've watched ivory, he isn't fast, niether is powell, or goodson. mknight is the only RB we have that has some speed
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 12 May 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

I read a film breakdown of our new OG, Peterman, and pulling is his specialty.



Peterman was also awful last season. I doubt he starts, unless injuries happen. I think Winters will win a starting guard spot and Colon will get the other, his problem is staying healthy.


And Ivory/Goodson were 1-2 in elusiveness last season. They both have speed to break out big runs, neither of their problems is talent, its staying healthy.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:32 PM

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we don't have a speed back. I've watched ivory, he isn't fast, niether is powell, or goodson. mknight is the only RB we have that has some speed

I wouldn't contend that Ivory is blazing fast, but it looks like he ran a 4.47 in college which is a little slower than Peterson and Ray Rice, but faster than Lesean McCoy and Arian Foster. Overall he looks to be about the same speed as Lynch and Trent Richardson, and at 6'0, 222, he has similar power to boot. He definitely isn't slow though.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:39 PM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 13 May 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

I wouldn't contend that Ivory is blazing fast, but it looks like he ran a 4.47 in college which is a little slower than Peterson and Ray Rice, but faster than Lesean McCoy and Arian Foster. Overall he looks to be about the same speed as Lynch and Trent Richardson, and at 6'0, 222, he has similar power to boot. He definitely isn't slow though.


Yeah I mean i don't think ivory is slow by any means but 40 times are deceiving at times. Mccoy just looks fast and plus he has amazing agility and change of direction skills. he is a game breaker. So was westbrook when he was an eagle. Morrningweg has had some really talented RBs plus mobile QBs (mcnabb then vick) so his RBs have always done good. Ivory is a average back. the saints used him as a pounder up the middle. he is a tough runner but he doens't have the game breaker speed to the outside like mccoy IMO. the RB battle in camp should be interesting. I think al 4 have a good chance to win the job
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:48 PM

He has broken off runs to the outside before... He has way more talent than Shonn Greene, its just about him staying healthy.



Look at him break that run to the outside for a long TD run.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:53 PM

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He has broken off runs to the outside before... He has way more talent than Shonn Greene, its just about him staying healthy.



Look at him break that run to the outside for a long TD run.


green was a pretty average RB. i mena had had some nice runs bowling people over once he got into the 2nd level but didn't have the burst/ability on his own to get there. needed good blocks. his TD run against the chargers in the playoffs was awesome though. I didn't mind seeing greene walk. he got paid too much IMO. Plus i like powell and mcknight and brining in ivory and goodson seems like good competition. but the thing about ivory is he is injury prone and also why did NO feel the need to draft ingram in the 1ts when they had ivory and PT, then trade off ivory. they must have not been sold on him IMO
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:14 PM

I don't think NO realized what they had in Ivory when they drafted Ingram. I think we can all agree that Ivory has the size/talent/speed to be successful and productive, the question is whether or not he can stay healthy.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:53 PM

Something to keep in mind when considering combine 40s is they are in shorts. When you add all the pads and helmet bigger stronger backs will loose less than a lighter guy. In other words a 5'9" 180 lb WR may loose lets say .5 of a second and a 6' 220lb HB may only loose .25. I am pulling those #s out of the air but for explanation reasons I used them. He is plenty fast. Not Chris Johnson fast by any means but he can play if he stays on the field.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:17 PM

The reason why the Saints let Ivory go is because he doesn't catch the ball. He was expendable in their offense. BTW, I think McKnight is not going to make the team.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:33 PM

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The reason why the Saints let Ivory go is because he doesn't catch the ball. He was expendable in their offense. BTW, I think McKnight is not going to make the team.


I can't see us getting rid of him. even if we only keep him as a KR. plus he is our only back that can catch. he has a nice role as a 3rd down back/ KR in our team. maybe even PR too.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:54 PM

Goodson will be our 3rd down back
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