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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:29 AM

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The Jets' ballyhooed quarterback competition may be over before Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith even make it to Cortland, N.Y., for the start of training camp in late July.
While the prevailing thought is that the incumbent and the rookie will square off in a summer-long battle to determine the starter, the Jets braintrust isn't averse to declaring a winner in the coming weeks.
"We don't care what the prevailing thought is," new offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg told the Daily News about the perception that the quarterback battle will certainly be alive at the start of training camp. "We only care about our competition here."
Mornhinweg is looking for one of his signal callers to separate himself from the pack. "Common sense tells you that you hope it's quick, but this is going to be a full blown competition. Period."
Although there are four quarterbacks on the roster (Sanchez, Smith, Greg McElroy and Matt Simms), Sanchez or Smith will almost certainly win the job.
Mornhinweg wants one of the quarterbacks to distance himself during a critical, but often overlooked stretch of the offseason program that began on Monday. But could someone actually separate himself that much for the Jets brass to declare a winner by mid-June based on 10 OTA practices and three minicamp practices?
"Oh, absolutely," Mornhinweg said. "Sure. Absolutely. That's all part of the process. Absolutely. Everything we do is important. Our meetings are important… the way we go about our meetings, the way we go about our preparation right now with a new system. These are very important things. Every pass we throw out there in OTAs and these practices are important."

Sanchez's experience appears to give him an inherent advantage to seize control of the competition early. Smith, who spent much of his college career in shotgun, has spent a fair amount of time thus far sharpening his skills taking the ball under center with quarterbacks coach David Lee.
"David Lee is working overtime on many things," Mornhinweg said. "But certainly his footwork."
Mornhinweg made it clear that he's not overly concerned with timelines created by people outside the organization. He surely wouldn't call off the "full-blown competition" before training camp begins, right?
"I don't know that… " Mornhinweg said. "We'll see. Really. This thing is going to play itself out. It's going to be our competition… I want to give everybody an opportunity to show their skill and ability and their decision-making and their accuracy and their timing within this system."
Mornhinweg is mindful that the longer the competition lasts, the less time the eventual winner will have to work solely with the first-team offense.
"When you do it this way," Mornhinweg said, "you give up some reps individually for the possible starter if you don't select him quite as quickly."
However, the offensive play-caller isn't going to force the issue to get to a resolution.

"Once a man separates himself, then we'll think about making those choices (of officially naming the starter), but I want a man to separate himself," Mornhinweg said. "If not, we'll keep the competition grinding. That's important. That's important in this situation."
Mornhinweg admitted that naming a starter will be a collaborative decision.
"In any decision we make (regarding) playing time, what role a certain man's going to have, who's the starting quarterback," Mornhinweg said, "It will be discussed thoroughly virtually every day until we make a decision. I suspect that decision will come when we're all in it together. There's no question about that."
To that end, Mornhinweg has formulated a detailed — but flexible — plan through minicamp (June 11-13) to divvy up practice reps for each quarterback that was updated after David Garrard's abrupt decision to retire last week.
"I spent hours on this thing up to date on exactly how we're going to go about each practice," Mornhinweg said. "The staff has spent hours specifically with the first group, the second group, the third group… as well as the quarterback spots."
"It will change and adjust by recent past history," he added. "If there's a man that's had just two consecutive excellent (series), I'm going to give him an opportunity to go with the 1s … and let's see. So, those will be sort of fluid. But (I) certainly have an outline…. Now it may change and it may change very subtly or it may change drastically depending on how the fellas do."
The biggest question, of course, is what the team's decision makers do if Sanchez and Smith play at comparable levels in the coming weeks/months and possibly preseason games?
"I don't get into the stats as much as the production on film," Mornhinweg said. "Some of that depends on what group they have with them and who they're going against. All those things come into play."
"I'm excited about the quarterback situation."


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:55 AM

Well I am glad he is excited about the QBs because he is in the minority.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:57 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 21 May 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

Well I am glad he is excited about the QBs because he is in the minority.


he doesn't have much of a choice. his job is to make one of them be somewhat successful. Talking about not having the right tools to do a good job. anywya i really hope geno pans out to be good. I feel for sanchez. he could have been good if he didn't have to deal with schotty, sprano, and all the changes in systems
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 12:49 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 21 May 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

he doesn't have much of a choice. his job is to make one of them be somewhat successful. Talking about not having the right tools to do a good job. anywya i really hope geno pans out to be good. I feel for sanchez. he could have been good if he didn't have to deal with schotty, sprano, and all the changes in systems

I am more concerned with the lack of talent around the QB. No TE, a WR core that is eh and a new scheme all make for a tough go for a rookie. I don't believe there is a real battle here. Geno will start unless he drops the ball.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:46 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 21 May 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

I am more concerned with the lack of talent around the QB. No TE, a WR core that is eh and a new scheme all make for a tough go for a rookie. I don't believe there is a real battle here. Geno will start unless he drops the ball.


letter keller and slauson walk to 1 year deals didn't help the situation either
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:53 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 21 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

letter keller and slauson walk to 1 year deals didn't help the situation either

Letting SLauson walk hurts our WRS and TEs?
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:23 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 21 May 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Letting SLauson walk hurts our WRS and TEs?


no keller does, slauson hurts the o-line which directly effects the WRs ability to get open (more time to throw = more chance to get open) which in turn directly effects the QB as well.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:39 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 21 May 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

no keller does, slauson hurts the o-line which directly effects the WRs ability to get open (more time to throw = more chance to get open) which in turn directly effects the QB as well.


For the umpteenth time, they got low cost, one year deals for a reason...
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 21 May 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

no keller does, slauson hurts the o-line which directly effects the WRs ability to get open (more time to throw = more chance to get open) which in turn directly effects the QB as well.


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 05:26 PM

We drafted an upgrade for Slauson and we still don't know why Keller left. Has to be more than money IMO
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 05:50 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 21 May 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

For the umpteenth time, they got low cost, one year deals for a reason...


what reason is that? nobody is getting big money this offseason unlike others. cap is too low. so demand is low. we could have given the same low cost 1 year deals
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 05:51 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 21 May 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

We drafted an upgrade for Slauson and we still don't know why Keller left. Has to be more than money IMO


you can't say we drafted an upgrade. what if he is the next ducasse or even worse if he is so bad that ducasse starts for us instead?
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:02 PM

Slauson is easily replaceable. Mediocre at best player. Not athletic, which makes him a bad fit for Marty's offense since he likes athletic linemen that can pull.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 21 May 2013 - 05:23 PM, said:

no keller does, slauson hurts the o-line which directly effects the WRs ability to get open (more time to throw = more chance to get open) which in turn directly effects the QB as well.



Come on now, it's not like Keller was the next Tony Gonzales. His production can be replaced.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 09:32 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 21 May 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

you can't say we drafted an upgrade. what if he is the next ducasse or even worse if he is so bad that ducasse starts for us instead?

Ducasse was replacing Slauson on 1/2 the snaps last year anyway. Slauson was nothing special. He was playing between two pro bowlers. There is no such thing as a sure bet.
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:31 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 21 May 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Come on now, it's not like Keller was the next Tony Gonzales. His production can be replaced.


never said he was but he did lead the team in receiving 2 out of the last 3 years
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 10:36 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 21 May 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

Ducasse was replacing Slauson on 1/2 the snaps last year anyway. Slauson was nothing special. He was playing between two pro bowlers. There is no such thing as a sure bet.


too bad your wrong

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OFFENSIVE LINE
D'Brickashaw Ferguson -- 264 snaps/100 percent
Austin Howard -- 264 snaps/100 percent
Nick Mangold -- 264 snaps/100 percent
Brandon Moore -- 253 snaps/96 percent
Matt Slauson -- 220 snaps/83 percent
Vladimir Ducasse -- 55 snaps/21 percent


slauson played 83% of snaps so he only say on 17% which is less then a quarter, not even close to half.

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Right now, Colon and Ducasse are the starters. How's that grab you? Ducasse, a former second-round pick, was given an opportunity to start in each of his first three seasons -- and he failed every time. What makes them believe this year will be different?


couldn't agree with that more

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:30 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 22 May 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

never said he was but he did lead the team in receiving 2 out of the last 3 years


That's not really all that impressive considering how offensively inept this team has been the last two seasons and the revolving door of WRs this team has had.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:07 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 22 May 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

That's not really all that impressive considering how offensively inept this team has been the last two seasons and the revolving door of WRs this team has had.


be that as it may, how even more inept will said offense be w/o its top receiver?
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