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RetireChrebet Icon : (22 March 2015 - 01:28 PM) Haha I'm jk man, but my point was if you've never seen virginia play you would know they weren't going anywhere. Their offense is just painful to watch.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:46 PM) Lol....point taken. But a couple of things. 1 you do realize Nova and Va are in the same bracket right? 2 at least Va lost to a top 25 ranked opponent. Nova lost to an unranked.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:49 PM) Also VA beat some good teams. Lost to Duke,beat Maryland and split games with NC and Louisville. Their wins against quality and ranked opponents was higher and better than Nova.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 March 2015 - 03:55 PM) NC State didn't even get one vote to be in the top 25
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JSOTF Icon : (25 March 2015 - 06:02 AM) So, the question is.......Do I invest to go see the Jets vs Fish in England this season????????
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) I'm considering going
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) My brother is moving to London next year...so I have a reason to be over there
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 07:10 AM) This August I should say
Smedsthejet Icon : (25 March 2015 - 02:59 PM) You both should do it...I'll buy the first (overpriced) beers as well! Got my ticket back in January
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 March 2015 - 03:02 PM) Smeds if I come over I'll be sure to check you out
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JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 03:58 AM) Well, I now live accros the pond and maybe some of us could meet up there?
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 03:59 AM) Smeds, where did you get your tickets?
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 05:56 AM) Az bitches!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 06:01 AM) I dont know about all that. As bad as we get over sports the Brits get far worse. You might suffer a huge beat down if you say the wrong thing there. Well maybe not being its televised to the U.S.. Security probably be pretty tight.
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 06:03 AM) Well...... the good thing is I know who to mooch off of now if I go to London.
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 06:47 AM) hahahaha, it isnt European Football!
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:04 AM) Ive seen a lot of videos. Most countries go psycho over their soccer teams. Ive seen some serious very bloody beat downs. Fans stabbing the players and refs,etc. And they say we are bad in the U.S. not even close to that.
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:06 AM) I think one was in Africa....a fan stormed the field and was knifing everyone in sight after his team lost
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:08 AM) Hell even in mma when the Brits come over they are all cocky as hell. Big time cocky like they are going to easily destroy everyone they face cocky.
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:36 AM) hahahaha
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:36 AM) damn Europeans!
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:37 AM) They havent fucked with a disgruntled, lifelong Jets fan!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (26 March 2015 - 02:49 PM) Got my tickets from Ticketmaster the day they went on general sale
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:33 AM) You guys get Bellator in London? http://www.bellator.com/schedule its on Spike tv free regular cable channel. in the U.S. and the prelims are free on http://www.spike.com/
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:37 AM) London is 4 hours ahead of east coast U.S. Bellator prelims are 7pm Friday night U.S. East Coast time and the main card is 9pm So just add 4 hours to that if you can catch either. Im sure you can catch a stream or use a U.S. VPN if you dont have access to Spike.com. You guys might get Bellator on another channel their just like with the UFC.
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:47 AM) Anyway only reason I mentioned it was because of your sense of humor. The last Bellator 134 was called the British Invasion. If you watch mma Might want to add this site to your favorites http://www.mmauk.net...y/bellatornews/
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:55 AM) There was one of those hour long shows about the upcoming event featuring the fighters the prior week to Bellator 134 and all 4 of the Brits were cocky as hell. Yelling "The British are coming!!!!"
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:57 AM) By the way 135 is tonight if you are interested. I used to watch pretty much all the televised mma now I stick with Bellator and UFC only
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 03:07 AM) that last link is a UK mma site. Only reason i added it. http://www.sherdog.com/ is pretty much the best mma site on the net for everything mma
JSOTF Icon : (27 March 2015 - 07:08 AM) I actually live in Germany
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Posted 24 May 2013 - 02:01 PM

Any of you who have 401Ks that are stock based (especially those from former jobs) or and stocks may want to sit with your advisor or get one.

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Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke reiterated this week the message he has been sending for months about interest rates, the economy and the stock market.

Oh, it was couched in rhetoric and Fed-speak, but his message to average investors came through loud and clear: “I dare you to invest in stocks.”

No, Bernanke did not use those words, but the Fed’s actions and the chatter around them make that message unmistakable.

Combine an interest-rate environment where savers get virtually nothing with a stock market at all-time highs and a general nervousness about what will happen to that market when the Fed finally stops stepping in to prop up the economy and you have to wonder if investors have the nerve to throw more money at stocks.

Then add in Bernanke’s hint that the Fed’s rate of bond purchases could slow “in the next few meetings” and he just double-dog dared you to put more money in the market, knowing that the market will react to the end of quantitative easing the way most of us respond to food poisoning.

This reaction could be short-lived, however, and by floating that trial balloon this week, Bernanke may have been testing the waters, trying to see just how much the market reacts. The more it reacts now —— the more the big institutions start to anticipate a change in policy and price it into their plans — the less likely it will react with some long-running shock when the real moment arrives.

Plenty of average investors have taken Bernanke’s dare, which has simply grown stronger and more brash since the financial crisis of 2008. That said, while statistics show money flowing into equities, most of that has been from big institutions, and there hasn’t necessarily been some huge outflow from the fixed-income side of things, so there are a lot of people who haven’t responded to his actions yet.

“The majority of individual investors aren’t biting,” said Greg McBride, senior financial analyst for BankRate.com. “In April, Bankrate.com found 76% of Americans are not more inclined to invest in the stock market now, despite record low interest rates.”

For the investors who are in, Bernanke’s dare is something they had already factored in. For the rest of the investing public, they’re balancing all of the worries that have kept them out until now, most notably balancing the idea of a market at record highs with all of the conditions that make them nervous that a correction — or something much worse — is coming.

“You don’t want to be in or out based on emotions or flows, but on fundamentals,” said Barbara Marcin, manager of the Gabelli Dividend Growth fund (GBCIX) . “The overall fundamentals of the market are mediocre right now, you can’t get too excited. So while the Federal Reserve has intended to hold the risk-free rate to practically nothing to offer investors no choice but to invest in stocks if they want a return … the average individual hasn’t poured in.”

Bloomberg Ben S. Bernanke, chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve, speaks during a Joint Economic Committee hearing in Washington, D.C., U.S., on Wednesday, May 22, 2013.
“Traditionally, the market doesn’t form a good top until everybody is in, and that certainly hasn’t happened yet, but anyone who is getting in now has missed a tremendous run and may be getting in mostly because they feel that they have no real choice because they can’t get a real return anywhere but the market,” she added.

While it’s easy to find analysts touting the market’s solid prospects, investors are still having a tough time getting over the market’s travails of the last decade-plus. Cyclical swings don’t just batter account statements, they damage people’s confidence to stay in the market; it’s hard to stay invested — or even be invested — in a market that delivers its long-term returns in such an uneven way.

And yet for individuals, capturing the long-term return is the point.

No one has a good answer on how to do that without taking Bernanke up on the dare.

“Individual investors are starting to come into the market some, which I hate to see now that the market is at a high,” said Jeffrey Hirsch, co-author of the Stock Trader’s Almanac. “It would have been better last fall, when we had a major buy signal, or at some other time. But there’s always going to be a time that might be better, the problem is that if you just missed the last good time to get in the market, how do you know you will recognize the next ‘best time.’

“With the Fed providing a tailwind of liquidity,” he added, “I don’t think there will be a downdraft until Bernanke takes the punch bowl away. … But investors who want to take a chance now need to keep perspective on the risk versus the reward.”

Clearly, balancing risk requires diversification, not going all-or-nothing on Bernanke’s wager. It also means looking at the market not entirely in terms of percentages, but in real-dollar terms.

Hirsch noted that an investor with $10,000 looking to gain a 5% return is talking about adding $500 in annual returns compared with keeping the money on the sidelines. The discrepancy gets a bit bigger when adjusted for inflation.

“The question is whether that $500 is going to make it for you,” he said, “because if it’s not — and you’re too nervous to be in the market — you could still find yourself better off if you save more, or change your spending or doing something else that lets you invest more comfortably.”

Comfort is something the current market is not giving investors, even as it continues to play around with new highs. Investing into discomforting times — though historically profitable — is hard.

Ben Bernanke knows that.

If you’re not going to take his dare, planning around it is crucial. And if you are going to take him up on the challenge, you won’t want to be the last one to do it, because someone is going to wind up losing in this challenge, and it is most likely to be the ones who only accept Bernanke’s gamble right before he changes his provocation to something different.




Chuck Jaffe is a senior MarketWatch columnist. His work appears in many U.S. newspapers. Follow him on Twitter @MKTWJaffe.

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