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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:51 PM

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The war is about the disposal of what Simon called, in his most unforgiving but cogent term, “excess Americans”: once a labour force, but no longer of use to capitalism. He went so far as to call the war on drugs “a holocaust in slow motion”.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:32 PM

The easiest way to get the country out of debt would be to legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:31 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 May 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

The easiest way to get the country out of debt would be to legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling.


That and getting rid of tax exemptions for mega churches. But it would need to be heavily taxed and regulated. I don't want to smoke any meth that hasn't been approved by the FDA.

I have no problem with somebody of legal age going into the corner store to buy a pack of "Reefers" or "Mary Janes." Just like somebody buying a pack of "Winstons" or "Chesterfields."

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:24 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 May 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

The easiest way to get the country out of debt would be to legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling.

Could you imagine what our society would look like if this happened?
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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:49 AM

Marijuana is on it's way...the walls are falling piece by piece in the anti-weed department. Can't say the same for any other drugs, and I can't say I think any others should be legalized.
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Posted 03 June 2013 - 11:03 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 29 May 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Could you imagine what our society would look like if this happened?


unfortunately marijuana and other drugs such as pills etc are easier to get a hold of in high schools then are alcohol or cigarettes. so I don't really know how much society would change.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:41 AM

View Postsantana, on 03 June 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

unfortunately marijuana and other drugs such as pills etc are easier to get a hold of in high schools then are alcohol or cigarettes. so I don't really know how much society would change.

I think it would change greatly. All the people on the fence would have no reason to not jump on board and the supply would be greater. IMO
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:12 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 04 June 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

I think it would change greatly. All the people on the fence would have no reason to not jump on board and the supply would be greater. IMO


I disagree. First of all, I think that just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it's hard to get. It's definitely easier for high school kids to buy weed than it is to buy cigarettes. But it's not just availability. Quality and quantity is also important. Whether or not someone decides to shoot heroin is up to them. The risks are very well known. Jail time for possession of heroin is a slight deterrent at best. However, with legalization comes regulation and that means that you won't be gambling with your life every time you cook up a hit from a new batch. It also means that junkies won't be relegated to sharing needles in dingy crack dens.

Will legalization encourage more people to try "illicit drugs"? Possibly. But there are perscription drugs available now that dwarf the effects of pretty much every street drug in both potency and dependence. A heroin junkee need only find a doctor willing to write him a roxy script and viola! Medical heroin! Same goes for prostitution. Take the hookers out of the alleys, put them in a safe environment where they don't run the risk of getting their throats slashed in the dark. Legitimize an industry that's been legal before without any ill affects and tax it. Gambling is already legal, just to a select few. I don't see people living in cardboard boxes under the Atlantic City boardwalk.
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:14 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 29 May 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

That and getting rid of tax exemptions for mega churches.


I don't understand the history behind this. How is a nation that which for it's first 200 years fought and prided itself on separation of church and state ended up allowing religious institutions to become a protected class?
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:06 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 10 June 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

I don't understand the history behind this. How is a nation that which for it's first 200 years fought and prided itself on separation of church and state ended up allowing religious institutions to become a protected class?

Its not about god. It is a non profit like Livestrong, Big Brothers, Big Sisters etc... Personally I see it as a scape goat for alot of business' to use to shelter there profits. Alot of these companies have huge cash reserves and pay employees very well. I mean 6 figures well.
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 11 June 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

I don't understand the history behind this. How is a nation that which for it's first 200 years fought and prided itself on separation of church and state ended up allowing religious institutions to become a protected class?


The bible belt became a extremely important voting block. Then there was the rise in televangelism in the late 20th century and the blurring of lines between a churches non-profit activities and its for-profit activities. There was also the rise of Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority" political organization in the 70s and 80s. Which came right after the courts took Christian prayer out of the public schools, the sexual revolution (the birth control pill and sex before marriage), the Roe v. Wade decision, the growing acceptance of homosexual people, and the increase in the divorce rate. This movement encouraged church members (primarily in rural areas) to become more politically active to "save 'merica from goin' to Hell." So now we have elected officials of all sides seeking the support of the "values voters." They in turn look the other way when religious institutions get increasingly involved with state matters (like the Mormon church and Prop 8 in California for example).

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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