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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:51 PM

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The war is about the disposal of what Simon called, in his most unforgiving but cogent term, “excess Americans”: once a labour force, but no longer of use to capitalism. He went so far as to call the war on drugs “a holocaust in slow motion”.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:32 PM

The easiest way to get the country out of debt would be to legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:31 AM

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The easiest way to get the country out of debt would be to legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling.


That and getting rid of tax exemptions for mega churches. But it would need to be heavily taxed and regulated. I don't want to smoke any meth that hasn't been approved by the FDA.

I have no problem with somebody of legal age going into the corner store to buy a pack of "Reefers" or "Mary Janes." Just like somebody buying a pack of "Winstons" or "Chesterfields."
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:24 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 28 May 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

The easiest way to get the country out of debt would be to legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling.

Could you imagine what our society would look like if this happened?
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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:49 AM

Marijuana is on it's way...the walls are falling piece by piece in the anti-weed department. Can't say the same for any other drugs, and I can't say I think any others should be legalized.
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Posted 03 June 2013 - 11:03 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 29 May 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Could you imagine what our society would look like if this happened?


unfortunately marijuana and other drugs such as pills etc are easier to get a hold of in high schools then are alcohol or cigarettes. so I don't really know how much society would change.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:41 AM

View Postsantana, on 03 June 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

unfortunately marijuana and other drugs such as pills etc are easier to get a hold of in high schools then are alcohol or cigarettes. so I don't really know how much society would change.

I think it would change greatly. All the people on the fence would have no reason to not jump on board and the supply would be greater. IMO
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:12 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 04 June 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

I think it would change greatly. All the people on the fence would have no reason to not jump on board and the supply would be greater. IMO


I disagree. First of all, I think that just because something is illegal, doesn't mean it's hard to get. It's definitely easier for high school kids to buy weed than it is to buy cigarettes. But it's not just availability. Quality and quantity is also important. Whether or not someone decides to shoot heroin is up to them. The risks are very well known. Jail time for possession of heroin is a slight deterrent at best. However, with legalization comes regulation and that means that you won't be gambling with your life every time you cook up a hit from a new batch. It also means that junkies won't be relegated to sharing needles in dingy crack dens.

Will legalization encourage more people to try "illicit drugs"? Possibly. But there are perscription drugs available now that dwarf the effects of pretty much every street drug in both potency and dependence. A heroin junkee need only find a doctor willing to write him a roxy script and viola! Medical heroin! Same goes for prostitution. Take the hookers out of the alleys, put them in a safe environment where they don't run the risk of getting their throats slashed in the dark. Legitimize an industry that's been legal before without any ill affects and tax it. Gambling is already legal, just to a select few. I don't see people living in cardboard boxes under the Atlantic City boardwalk.
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 11:14 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 29 May 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

That and getting rid of tax exemptions for mega churches.


I don't understand the history behind this. How is a nation that which for it's first 200 years fought and prided itself on separation of church and state ended up allowing religious institutions to become a protected class?
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 12:06 PM

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I don't understand the history behind this. How is a nation that which for it's first 200 years fought and prided itself on separation of church and state ended up allowing religious institutions to become a protected class?

Its not about god. It is a non profit like Livestrong, Big Brothers, Big Sisters etc... Personally I see it as a scape goat for alot of business' to use to shelter there profits. Alot of these companies have huge cash reserves and pay employees very well. I mean 6 figures well.
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Posted 11 June 2013 - 07:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 11 June 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

I don't understand the history behind this. How is a nation that which for it's first 200 years fought and prided itself on separation of church and state ended up allowing religious institutions to become a protected class?


The bible belt became a extremely important voting block. Then there was the rise in televangelism in the late 20th century and the blurring of lines between a churches non-profit activities and its for-profit activities. There was also the rise of Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority" political organization in the 70s and 80s. Which came right after the courts took Christian prayer out of the public schools, the sexual revolution (the birth control pill and sex before marriage), the Roe v. Wade decision, the growing acceptance of homosexual people, and the increase in the divorce rate. This movement encouraged church members (primarily in rural areas) to become more politically active to "save 'merica from goin' to Hell." So now we have elected officials of all sides seeking the support of the "values voters." They in turn look the other way when religious institutions get increasingly involved with state matters (like the Mormon church and Prop 8 in California for example).
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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