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MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:22 PM) How many starters are back from last year?
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:23 PM) They had to let defensive players go too. And that's why they refused to pay Chancellor. They don't have the money
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:24 PM) Most of the Defense is back from last season.. who besides the 2nd CB do they not have?
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:24 PM) I don't know how many starters. I didn't look through the whole active roster from last year to this year. But I know they let a good many starters go too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:25 PM) Anyway we need them to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:26 PM) it puts us in a 4 way tie for the WC
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:26 PM) Maybe Hou can win the division
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:26 PM) They had to let a corner and safety go from the defense and some dline from the starting line up. And some players on the online too
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:27 PM) That's why Russel isn't getting protection and Lynch is having a down year
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:28 PM) Yeah but you need to chr
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:29 PM) check my list of tiebreakers we are down in division and conference games. If the Jets don't beat the Bills and win most of the conference games no playoffs
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:31 PM) Plus we are down in schedule strength to everyone in the hunt for the playoffs except Houston but they have the win and tiebreaker against the Jets
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:32 PM) Oh and also the Bills are below us in schedule strength but have a win against us so have tiebreaker for now
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:33 PM) Chiefs have the easy schedule in the league got the rest of the season so chances of them not getting in are slim
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:35 PM) Chiefs and Stelers are in the drivers seat
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) Right but there is a lot of games to go still
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) who knows maybe we beat Tenn NYG Dal and Buf
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) 10-6?? Maybe
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) 1 game at a time I agree
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) KC and Oakland have to play each other twice
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:38 PM) Pitt Still has to play Cinn and Denver
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:39 PM) Who they may beat.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:41 PM) We just need Sea to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:41 PM) Game over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:41 PM) Hawks win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:42 PM) Well if they make the PAT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:42 PM) My bad I thought Pitt had 0 timeouts left
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:46 PM) I don't trust Denver against any good team with their backup qb in. I except the Chiefs to overtake the division. They really don't trust him either since an injured Manning is the #2 qb. He barely won last week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:47 PM) Ben is hurt now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:47 PM) Don't think its anything big tho
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:48 PM) But Steelers losing today and if they lose against the Bengals would help
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:55 PM) Ben has a possible concussion
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 08:08 PM) And Pitt plays Indy next week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 08:09 PM) If Pittsburgh lose it help if indy lose Houston might be in 1st and have a tie breaker over indy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 08:16 PM) I just can't wait for Sunday. Me and my brother are going to the game. He's a giants fan. So somebody is going home mad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 10:46 PM) Where is frosty??.and his MIGHTY DOLPHINS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 10:58 PM) Marshall is 70 yards away from being our 1st 1000 yard receiver since cotch in 07
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 AM) f*** new England!! And gronk is hurt
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:04 AM) Nice to see the Pats won't have an undefeated season. That said the wheat her made the difference. Brady is accurate as heck and the snow affected the pass timing with the wr's
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:06 AM) Without the snow I couldn't see the Broncos winning that game. But again great to see the Pats chance at a perfect season go down the tubes
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:21 PM) Brandon Marshall is the best WR I've seen on the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:23 PM) How bad is Marcus Williams injury?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:23 PM) I like how this guy has 5 INTs in limited playing time, he reminds me of Asante Samuel
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 04:14 PM) After both losses to the Jets this year Miami fired some coaches. LOL
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New York Jets, Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez: How Quickly We Forget

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 08:25 PM


New York Jets, Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez: How Quickly We Forget

COMMENTARY | The New York Jets: Super Bowl contenders. It seems like an anachronism, a joke, a distant memory. Amazing that it was less than two years ago. The Jets, coming off of back-to-back trips to the AFC Championship appearances, one of the most complete teams in the NFL, were heading for shot number three at their first Super Bowl since 1969.

But that was almost two years ago. Now it is 2013, and writers and analysts across the country are competing to see who can have the most pessimistic prediction for the Jets. First it was 7-9 at best, then a repeat of 6-10, then 4-12. Now with the preseason looming, the real crazies are coming out, with predictions like 2-14 or 0-16.

There is nothing quite like mob mentality, and it feeds on itself. If the offseason lasted forever, then without a doubt after a few years of this, we as a nation would all agree that the Jets will go 0-16 and we would all be calling for Geno Smith's retirement before his first snap.

Yet the beauty is that the offseason does not last forever, and that with real games comes reality. And how quickly we forget reality.

... That the Jets Usually Win

How quickly we forget that the Jets win more than they lose. Pessimists often call for more of the same, citing "same old Jets." But if the Jets win the majority of their games, does "same old Jets" mean more wins than losses?

In the Rex Ryan era (since 2009) the Jets are 34-30 in the regular season and 4-2 in the playoffs. The year before Ryan was hired, the Jets went 9-7. If the Jets were to lose 13 games or more (as seems to be the common prediction), it would be the first time since 1996.

Thus, we should at least remember that predicting a 3-13 season is not predicting more of the same but is in fact predicting something radically new.

... That the Jets Were 6-10 Last Season

How quickly we forget that these Jets (that's right, even with Mark Sanchez) won six games last year and were in playoff contention until Week 15. Despite having no Darrelle Revis (injury), no Santonio Holmes (injury) and no Sione Pouha (injury), the team won six games.

Now when citing why the Jets should be worse this year, the common logic is the loss of Revis, the loss of Pouha and the inconsistency of Holmes. But wait. If the team won six games without those guys last year, why would not having them this year mean they should be worse? The Jets have lost nobody who contributed significantly last year (yes, I am counting LaRon Landry). So how could any rationalist expect the team to be worse than last year?

... That Mark Sanchez Does More Than Buttfumble

Anyone who has followed the Jets the past six months knows that it is somewhat obligatory to mention the word "buttfumble" in any Jets-related piece. I think it is at a point now where fans will actually show up to games expecting Sanchez to take a snap and run headfirst into the rear end of whichever offensive lineman he wants to embarrass that day.

How quickly we forget that Mark Sanchez has a winning record as a starter in both the regular season and playoffs. How quickly we forget that he has outplayed both Peyton Manning and Tom Brady head-to-head. Sure, that one play (which did not even matter because the Jets had lost that game anyway) was pretty silly. But acting like it will ever happen again is simply foolish.

And how quickly we forget that Sanchez was the starter last year and had his worst year. What we learned in 2012 is that no matter how awful Sanchez plays, the Jets can still win six games. Six games is their absolute floor, because with Sanchez having a terrible season (the worst of his career by far) the rest of the team still managed to pull out six victories.

... That Rex Ryan is a Defensive Genius

How quickly we forget that as long as Rex Ryan is the head coach of the Jets, they will field a smart, strong, vicious, proud and unpredictable defense that will terrorize opposing offenses. With huge new pick-ups this year in Sheldon Richardson, Dee Milliner, Antwan Barnes and Antonio Garay to go along with quality veterans like Muhammad Wilkerson, David Harris, Kenrick Ellis, Quinton Coples, and Antonio Cromartie, there is no doubt the Jets will once again field an elite defense.

My conclusion is the only logical one. This team is the same or better in every respect from last year. However terrible your memories of the 2012 Jets might be, that team went 6-10. Thus (with an easier schedule this year to boot), the absolute floor for the Jets is 6-10. A more reasonable prediction would be 8-8 or 9-7.

And this is all assuming Sanchez is still the quarterback. If rookie second-round pick Geno Smith can surprise everyone and take the starter job (and succeed), then the sky is the limit. But if we want to play it safe, we should not expect Smith as a rookie to necessarily be much better than Sanchez.

If you want my prediction, I expect that whoever plays quarterback (either one last year of Sanchez or a learning year for Smith), the Jets will go 8-8. There is room for that to fall as low as 6-10 if things go poorly but also room for the team to have good fortune and go as high as 11-5.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 01:52 PM

he's way more optimistic then i am lol. also this years schedule on paper looks tougher then last year. that should be accounted for as well

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:52 PM

View PostChaos, on 10 July 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

I would be cool if they win less games than last year as long as they quit embarrassing themselves, play hard each week, and make forward progress showing us loyal fans that we are on the way back up (hopefully for a good while)

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:14 AM

this team was good 3-4 years ago...FIRE IDZIK
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